ejabberd - Sunday, February 11, 2018

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[00:41:00] <SouL> zinid: where's MUC avatar displayed in Psi?
[00:41:03] <SouL> I don't see anything
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[04:26:01] <mrDoctorWho> SouL: I suppose it's in vcard
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[05:10:54] <zinid> SouL: both in vcard and in upper left corner of the group chat window
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[06:47:37] <zinid> Holger, take a look!
[06:47:41] <zinid> > xmpp:serr_conflict(<<"Replaced by new connection">>, <<"de">>).
#stream_error{reason = conflict,
              text = [#text{lang = <<"de">>,
                            data = <<"Durch neue Verbindung ersetzt">>},
                      #text{lang = <<"en">>,
                            data = <<"Replaced by new connection">>}]}
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[10:22:33] <SouL> zinid, I'm talking about what you said, that MUCs that have avatar, can be displayed in Psi
[10:23:25] <zinid> I didn't understand, what are you trying to say? :)
[10:23:40] <zinid> yes, they are displayed in Psi 1.3
[10:23:44] <zinid> at least works for me
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[10:29:44] <marc> zinid, it is okay to add XEP-related error functions to xmpp.erl?
[10:29:51] <marc> like err_invalid_token()
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[10:34:41] <zinid> marc, no :)
[10:35:03] <marc> zinid, good, where to place such functions?
[10:35:18] <zinid> in the place you want to generate the error?
[10:35:41] <zinid> see functions err_* in src/mod_pubsub.erl
[10:35:56] <zinid> err_closed_node/0, err_configuration_required/0, and so on
[10:35:57] <marc> okay, I thought something like xep0401:err_
[10:36:07] <marc> but xep0401 is auto-generated
[10:36:15] <marc> I'll put it in mod_invite then
[10:36:16] <zinid> yeah, you cannot put anything there
[10:36:19] <zinid> ok
[10:43:02] <marc> zinid, is the pubsub error code the recommended way?
[10:44:03] <zinid> what do you mean? error code?
[10:45:40] <marc> I basically need only a couple of errors (e.g. cancel:invalid-token) and the pubsub code defines error types, records, foo... in the spec file
[10:45:41] <zinid> another example is in mod_stream_mgmt btw
[10:46:31] <zinid> You still need to do this in the spec file, because you introduce new elements
[10:47:16] <zinid> #sm_failed{} is a good example btw
[10:47:23] <zinid> seems like that what you need
[10:48:09] <marc> and how do I generate an error element from that?
[10:48:22] <zinid> marc, show me the error element, an example
[10:48:48] <marc> zinid, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0401.html example 11
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[10:49:33] <zinid> just a second, I will give you the spec
[10:54:45] <zinid> -record(invite_error, {reason :: invite_error_type()}).
-type invite_error_type() :: 'invalid-token'.
-type invite_error() :: #invite_error{}.
-xml(invite_error_invalid_token,
     #elem{name = <<"invalid-token">>,
       xmlns = <<"urn:xmpp:invite:0">>,
       module = 'xep0401',
           result = {invite_error, 'invalid-token'}}).
[10:58:22] <zinid> ah, there is also 'token-expired', well, just copy paste the spec and replace s/invalid-token/token-expired/g
[10:58:50] <zinid> and append new type to invite_error_type()
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[11:02:35] <marc> zinid, okay, generation works but I need to add this to stanza error, no? Because I need a surrounding <error> element
[11:05:54] <zinid> yes, generate an error stanza, then xmpp:set_els, or append_subtags
[11:06:18] <zinid> ah, wait
[11:06:26] <zinid> gosh, why you make this so complicated, lol
[11:06:54] <zinid> I'm not even sure you can do like that
[11:07:17] <marc> zinid, I can because that's the XEP! :D
[11:07:21] <marc> zinid, see https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0077.html example 13
[11:07:28] <marc> I think that's correct in 401
[11:07:58] <zinid> well, that's stupid
[11:08:14] <marc> zinid, hm?
[11:08:15] <zinid> what if a software doesn't understand your <invalid-token/> error?
[11:08:37] <marc> zinid, you _request_ a form for a token-based registration
[11:08:39] <zinid> there should be a well recognized error with addition application-specific error
[11:08:46] <marc> which means you do implement 401
[11:08:55] <marc> -> you have to understand invalid-token?
[11:10:33] <zinid> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120#section-8.3.2
[11:10:42] <zinid> The <error/> element:
   o  MUST contain a defined condition element.
[11:10:55] <zinid> your element *doesn't* contain defined condition element
[11:11:24] <zinid> The "defined-condition" MUST correspond to one of the stanza error
   conditions defined under Section 8.3.3.
[11:11:55] <zinid> I don't know what's there in XEP-0077, maybe written by yet another retard from XSF who didn't read the RFC
[11:12:52] <marc> zinid, wait, the _error_ element MUST contain a defined condition element which is invalid-token in my case, isn't it?
[11:13:19] <zinid> marc, no, it's defined within RFC6120 namespace (something-something-error-ns)
[11:13:39] <zinid> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120#section-8.3.3
[11:14:06] <zinid> urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas that is
[11:14:52] <marc> If the designers of an XMPP protocol
extension or the developers of an XMPP implementation need to
communicate a stanza error condition that is not defined in this
specification, they can do so by defining an application-specific
error condition element qualified by an application-specific
namespace.
[11:14:56] <marc> isn't this my case?
[11:15:20] <zinid> yes, that's your case, but why do you really need it?
[11:15:26] <zinid> you cannot simply make this in ejabberd
[11:15:45] <marc> zinid, what's the your recommendation?
[11:15:51] <zinid> because you cannot also say MUST in one place of the RFC then you dismiss this MUST in another place
[11:16:02] <zinid> marc, just generate bad-request or not-acceptable
[11:16:05] <zinid> or whatever
[11:16:13] <zinid> and put your application-specific stanza inside
[11:16:32] <marc> zinid, pubsub does the same "shit"
[11:16:44] <zinid> <error code='400' type='modify'>
    <bad-request xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/>
<invalid-token xmlns='urn:xmpp:invite:0'/>
  </error>
[11:16:51] <marc> Ah
[11:17:02] <marc> Yes, that's what pubsub uses
[11:17:10] <zinid> that's what others do, yes
[11:17:41] <marc> I don't know why this is "better" but...
[11:17:43] <zinid> and this shit in RFC when MUST is not a MUST just makes me angry as fuck
[11:17:58] <marc> Because now I have two errors...
[11:18:12] <zinid> marc, pubsub also has two errors, so what?
[11:18:25] <marc> zinid, advantage?
[11:18:53] <zinid> marc, the advantage is that you don't need to put your application specific errors outside your module
[11:19:16] <zinid> in the case of ejabberd you have to fix xmpp_codec.spec, and add this specific errors in xmpp.erl
[11:19:46] <zinid> also the advantage is that there is fucking MUST in the RFC
[11:20:27] <edhelas> hello everyone o/
[11:20:38] <marc> okay, but looks like resource wasting to me :D
[11:21:49] <zinid> wait
[11:21:55] <zinid> I think you can use your shit
[11:22:26] <marc> zinid, why?
[11:23:12] <zinid> 3> xmpp:encode(#stanza_error{type = cancel, sub_els = [xmpp:encode(#invite_error{reason = 'invalid-token'})]}).
#xmlel{name = <<"error">>,
       attrs = [{<<"type">>,<<"cancel">>},
                {<<"xmlns">>,<<"jabber:client">>}],
       children = [#xmlel{name = <<"invalid-token">>,
                          attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:invite:0">>}],
                          children = []}]}
[11:23:27] <zinid> that's what you want?
[11:23:41] <marc> zinid, yes, but it conflicts with the RFC, doesn't it?
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[11:24:00] <zinid> no, because MUST is not a MUST according to the notes ;)
[11:24:07] <marc> what?
[11:24:16] <zinid> nevermind
[11:24:25] <marc> that's a joke, right?
[11:24:54] <zinid> half-joke ;)
[11:25:15] <marc> MUST   This word, or the terms "REQUIRED" or "SHALL", mean that the
   definition is an absolute requirement of the specification.
[11:25:56] <zinid> the RFC says that defined-condition MUST be those defined in the RFC, but then effectively override this in the notes
[11:26:50] <zinid> ah, wait
[11:27:16] <marc> The <error/> element:
   o  MUST contain a defined condition element.
   o  MAY contain a child element for an application-specific error
      condition; this element MUST be qualified by an application-
      specific namespace that defines the syntax and semantics of the
      element.
[11:27:20] <zinid> no, I think RFC doesn't override this, it only says that you can add your own application-specific errors, it doesn't say that you can drop defined-condition element
[11:27:44] <marc> Yes, so your first suggestion with an additional bad-request error is correct IMO
[11:27:52] <zinid> seems so
[11:28:00] <marc> I'll implement it this way and update the XEP accordingly
[11:28:38] <marc> zinid, mod_pubsub:extended_error() could be a non pubsub related function, right?
[11:28:57] <zinid> yes ;)
[11:29:04] <zinid> I think you can put any element there ;)
[11:29:31] <marc> yes, that's why I could move it to xmpp or xmpp_utils
[11:29:41] <zinid> not sure if it's a great idea, probably better to define agnostic function somewhere at top level like xmpp.erl or misc.erl and then use it from mod_pubsub and mod_invite
[11:30:01] <marc> yes
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[11:33:06] <zinid> anyway, seems like ejabberd is prepared to receive <error/> element without defined-condition sub-element
[11:33:43] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_s2s_dialback.erl#L348
[11:33:46] <zinid> for example
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[11:40:54] <edhelas> zinid would it be possible to enforce some pubsub config parameters for some nodes in ejabberd (it's a feature request here)
[11:41:19] <edhelas> to basically prevent some clients to mess up some pubsub nodes with stuff that are not in the related XEPs
[11:41:36] <zinid> edhelas, hum, dunno :/
[11:41:49] <zinid> I'm probably not the right person to ask about pubsub ;)
[11:42:08] <marc> zinid, btw, good that we talked about all this :) and thanks for your support!
[11:42:09] <zinid> and how do you see the config configuration, can you bring an example?
[11:42:23] <zinid> marc, you're welcome! ;)
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[11:43:39] <edhelas> it's postly for PEP nodes
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[11:44:20] <edhelas> but sometinh like
- nodes
    - "storage:bookmarks"
        access: whitelist
[11:44:24] <zinid> so you want to define configuration for a particular node in the config directly?
[11:44:25] <zinid> ah
[11:44:43] <zinid> I think it's doable, yes
[11:44:45] <edhelas> well the clients still have the freedom to set the config, but some items will be enforced
[11:44:59] <edhelas> basically what is specified in the XEPs
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[11:45:08] <edhelas> then a buggy client cannot mess up
[11:45:17] <zinid> yes, I see the point
[11:45:17] <edhelas> or create security issues
[11:45:47] <zinid> edhelas, could you please create the feature request in the github tracker?
[11:46:00] <zinid> I or chistophe will look at it
[11:46:21] <zinid> I or Christophe will look at it
[11:48:35] <edhelas> sure :)
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[11:52:57] <zinid> marc, on the other hand, the function you need is so trivial, I'm not sure we need to create anything
[11:53:02] <zinid> > xmpp:set_subtag(xmpp:err_bad_request(), #invite_error{reason = 'invalid-token'}).
#stanza_error{type = modify,code = 400,by = <<>>,
              reason = 'bad-request',text = [],
              sub_els = [#invite_error{reason = 'invalid-token'}]}
[11:53:23] <zinid> so, basically it's just xmpp:set_subtag/2
[11:53:40] <marc> zinid, okay
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[12:16:58] <Holger> edhelas, zinid: For a different default node config, a node_bookmarks.erl could be created/configured, like there's one for microblogging. But that won't enforce settings.
[12:18:39] <Holger> Oh or maybe it could also reject config requests.
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[13:07:08] <zinid> Holger: btw, maybe you cannot reproduce the issue with psi is because you don't have that patch applied?
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[13:12:43] <Holger> I do have it.
[13:13:05] <Holger> (And otherwise I would see it in my debug Output.)
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[13:27:33] <marc> zinid, what error should be returned if a client provides a not-supported IBR form (not captcha and invite)? {error, malformed} ?
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[13:30:25] <marc> hm, it seems that ejabberd "crashes" if it receives a stanza with unknown xmlns anyway, is this intended? :D
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[13:36:25] <marc> Okay, works now - my bad..
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[13:57:57] <zinid> ok ;)
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[17:02:32] <zinid> there is another issue I noticed with mod_block_strangers
[17:03:18] <zinid> if you're *not* joining a conference and sent a groupchat message to it, the conference sends an error back and this error messages is blocked by mod_block_strangers
[17:06:28] <Holger> zinid: Ah. Maybe just never block errors?
[17:06:42] <zinid> Holger, yeah, my thoughts exactly
[17:07:38] <zinid> I guess there are no clients rendering error messages?
[17:07:44] <zinid> well, except poezio, lol
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[19:11:46] <Student> if mod_mam enabled, when I offline from one client, and then log in to other client of the same account - history will be available there too?
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[19:15:22] <marc> Student, yes, if the client supports MAM and you don't use OMEMO or OMEMO is properly set up
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[19:21:42] <Student> Gajim supports this?
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[19:31:57] <marc> The lastest version should support it AFAIK
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[19:44:06] <zinid> damn, an air crash in Russia again...
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[22:26:44] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: Malaysia again?
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[22:37:20] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hajijjaaaa
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[22:47:24] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, nah, local
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