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[06:33:38] <zinid> ChaosKid42, here is the patch: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/ff06bdf144c089c5ff58207877027d96eb45b515
[06:33:57] <zinid> ChaosKid42, here is compiled beam: http://upload.zinid.ru/ejabberd_auth.beam
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[07:34:14] <mnr11> How do I subscribe to roster from a mobile client?
[07:38:04] <mrDoctorWho> do you mean subscribe to a user?
[07:38:11] <mrDoctorWho> it depends on a client
[07:38:23] <mrDoctorWho> usually you have to add them
[07:38:40] <mrDoctorWho> that should be enough
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[07:49:18] <mnr11> mrDoctorWho, yeah, right whats the procedure for that?
[07:50:27] <mrDoctorWho> depends on the client you use
[07:50:39] <mnr11> I have seen the API though https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-api/#POST/api/add_rosteritem
[07:51:03] <mrDoctorWho> I'm not sure how it's related to a client
[07:51:24] <mnr11> for this moment its from android they are using a Java library named smack I guess.
[07:51:57] <mrDoctorWho> so you're developing a client, huh?
[07:52:55] <mnr11> It's not me developing the client, but who is developing he asked me for the procedure.
[07:53:28] <mrDoctorWho> I wonder why they didn't read the basics of xmpp
[07:53:40] <mrDoctorWho> isn't there a method for that in smack library?
[07:54:04] <mrDoctorWho> if no, then you need to send a presence with type subscribe to the user you want to add to your roster
[07:54:10] <mnr11> yeah, right. makes sense.
[07:55:43] <mnr11> I'm not sure if it's there a method in smack library, but I did'nt get your last message.
[07:55:54] <zinid> > isn't there a method for that in smack library?
flow should now that for sure 🙂
[07:56:10] <mrDoctorWho> <presence to="user@host" type="subscribe"></presence>
[07:56:36] <zinid> I think smack has some helpers for this, cannot believe there is nothing for such basic feature
[07:56:46] <mrDoctorWho> yup
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[07:57:11] <mnr11> yeah, that makes sense, there should be.
[07:57:54] <mnr11> And I also need to explore some basic of client side.
[07:58:02] <mnr11> Thanks BTW!
[08:01:29] <ChaosKid42> zinid, after extensive testing I can say that your patch works perfectly in all cases I have tried. Thank you again!
[08:01:40] <zinid> ChaosKid42, nice 😉
[08:01:47] <zinid> thanks for testing
[08:03:03] <ChaosKid42> zinid, No problem. One (erlang beginner) question though: Why are the beam-files you provided and those I compiled myself much larger than the ones from the original RPM-file from p1?
[08:03:34] <zinid> ChaosKid42, stripped maybe?
[08:03:57] <zinid> see beam_lib:strip* functions
[08:06:28] <ChaosKid42> Ah.  I see.
[08:07:15] <rom1dep> does ejabberd participates to GSoC this year?
[08:08:45] <SouL> With Holger as a mentor
[08:11:04] <zinid> Holger still didn't merged the previous one 😀
[08:11:50] <zinid> rom1dep, BEAM Community is on the list, but not sure if ProcessOne will participate it, most likely yes
[08:13:14] <rom1dep> just saw https://blog.process-one.net/ejabberd-joins-google-summer-of-code-2018/ , was looking for announcement on twitter
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[08:13:46] <zinid> rom1dep, https://beamcommunity.github.io/#gsoc-projects
[08:14:26] <zinid> some crazy shit
[08:16:21] <rom1dep> the IoT stuff ain't too bad looking
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[08:26:32] <zinid> stagnation: http://stats.jabber.ru/
[08:26:42] <zinid> in the good old days there were 20k
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[08:29:18] <SouL> How sad :/
[08:31:15] <mrDoctorWho> they're going to loose even more users if they force users to put their phone numbers in their account information
[08:32:35] <zinid> email is not enough?
[08:32:45] <zinid> why requiring a phone number?
[08:33:06] <mrDoctorWho> actually you should know that
[08:33:12] <mrDoctorWho> russian laws and such things
[08:33:19] <zinid> ah
[08:33:20] <mrDoctorWho> users must be identified by phone numbers
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[08:37:39] <zinid> indeed
[08:51:27] <SouL> Oh, really?
[08:51:31] <SouL> Wow! :(
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[11:36:02] <jonasw> who’s responsible for the ejabberd docker images?
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[12:29:33] <vanitasvitae> mnr11: There is the Roster class in Smack. It has a function called somethong like addRosterEntry, that should do the trick for you.
[12:30:01] <vanitasvitae> Btw. Smack has good documentation in the documentation folder ;)
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[13:58:19] <zinid> jonasw: nobody knows 😁
[13:58:40] <zinid> Probably Chris?
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[14:37:12] <vanitasvitae> zinid, what happens, if mod_block_strangers blocks a muc message? Does it send captcha challenges in that case?
[14:37:17] <vanitasvitae> that would be super annoying 😀
[14:37:36] <zinid> vanitasvitae, no, it silently drops the message, doesn't even bounce it with an error
[14:37:41] <vanitasvitae> ok
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[14:38:00] <vanitasvitae> I'll soon update to make use of the access rules 🙂
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[15:36:32] <zinid> vanitasvitae, yeah, we probably need to assemble the whitelist somewhere, I can make ejabberd download the list periodically and inject into ACL rules
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[15:36:57] <zinid> github maybe?
[15:37:14] <vanitasvitae> zinid, I dont understand?
[15:37:23] <vanitasvitae> you mean a global list?
[15:37:27] <zinid> vanitasvitae, yes
[15:37:33] <vanitasvitae> why?
[15:37:40] <zinid> why we need that?
[15:37:44] <vanitasvitae> yes
[15:37:56] <zinid> do you suggest everyone will create the one themselves?
[15:38:24] <vanitasvitae> no, but a global list of MUCs sounds like a dirty workaround 😀
[15:38:35] <zinid> not MUCS
[15:38:37] <zinid> servers
[15:38:57] <vanitasvitae> I think we are talking about two different things 😀
[15:39:03] <zinid> ok, whatever
[15:39:11] <vanitasvitae> what do you mean what the list is used for?
[15:39:31] <zinid> vanitasvitae, the list is a whitelist for mod_block_strangers
[15:39:46] <zinid> because I don't want to generate captchas for good servers such as, dunno, conversations.im
[15:40:06] <vanitasvitae> but wouldnt a global list defeat the purpose of mod_block_strangers?
[15:40:23] <vanitasvitae> I mean, as a spammer I just take a look at the list, grab a server and create my acounts there
[15:40:24] <zinid> why would it?
[15:40:51] <zinid> but it's not simple to create an account on conversations.im 😉
[15:41:04] <vanitasvitae> of course I would have to find a way to get around IBR captchas
[15:41:15] <vanitasvitae> or find a way to create accounts en masse
[15:41:43] <vanitasvitae> I don't really like the idea of a global list.
[15:41:50] <zinid> ok
[15:41:57] <vanitasvitae> but its just me 😀
[15:43:00] <flow> well mail RBLs are also global lists and are effective as a first simple countermeasure against spam
[15:44:10] <zinid> RBLs are whitelists?
[15:44:21] <zinid> (not a specialist in email infrastructure)
[15:44:27] <vanitasvitae> I like how every user that tries to contact me has to fill out a captcha. Its not too much of a deal for my contacts, but it effectively prevents spammers 🙂
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[15:45:46] <flow> ah we are talking about whitelists, sorry
[15:46:42] <zinid> but we can initiate a global blacklist 😛
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[15:48:21] <zinid> it's trivial to maintain it on github (via PRs) and trivial to fetch them on servers
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[16:05:22] <flow> hmm if I had to guess I would say that ejabberd does not sort the privacy lists items after the list has been send by the client
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[16:15:03] <zinid> I don't know
[16:15:26] <zinid> there is order, I think it uses order to perform checks of packets only
[16:17:34] <zinid> hum, no, it doesn't
[16:17:39] <zinid> or I cannot find a place for this
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[16:18:55] <zinid> anyway, since privacy lists are deprecated, I have an excuse to not give a fuck 😉
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[16:20:21] <flow> :/
[16:21:21] <flow> I'd be fine with not giving a fuck because you don't own me anything, but using the xep being deprecated as argument is exactly what we where told should not happen
[16:21:27] <flow> *owe
[16:23:13] <zinid> flow, what exactly doesn't work?
[16:23:23] <zinid> I might be missing something
[16:23:32] <zinid> feel free to create a bug report, I will look into it
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[16:23:58] <flow> zinid, will do once I get the time to recreate the situation
[16:24:07] <zinid> thanks
[16:24:26] <zinid> if you're absolutely lazy then can report it here, but github issue tracker is preferred
[16:25:05] <flow> unfortunately privacy list stuff is often not easy to debug, I just had the situation where MAXS had issue wit presence, which was resolved after disabling privacy lists
[16:25:07] <flow> in MAXS
[16:25:59] <flow> and that reminded me of a prosody bug, which did not correctly sort the incoming privacy list and thus handled the items in the wrong order (e.g. <deny> as first when it should be the last item)
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[16:26:19] <zinid> ah
[16:26:53] <zinid> flow, what backend are you using? I see that in SQL rules are ordered already
[16:27:13] <flow> postgres
[16:27:15] <SouL> flow, is it possible to configure MAXS to vibrate when receiving a message or something? I would like to trigger something and make the phone vibrate, basically.
[16:27:19] <zinid> flow, ok
[16:27:56] <flow> SouL, i don't understand: vibrate on incoming command?
[16:28:17] <flow> (I also note that this is ejabberd@ and not #maxs)
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[16:29:42] <flow> zinid, unrelated to the issue, but regarding privacy lists: if you have a little spare time sometime, could you look up what ejabberd blocks on presence-(in|out)? all presence stanzas? Or just type available/unavailable?
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[16:32:49] <SouL> flow, yeah, I always forget about this because I don't use IRC :)
[16:33:52] <zinid> flow, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_privacy.erl#L576-L577
[16:34:03] <zinid> flow, only available and unavailable
[16:34:28] <zinid> sorry, wrong url
[16:34:30] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_privacy.erl#L569-L570
[16:36:45] <flow> zinid, perfect, that's appearantly the only behavior making sense
[16:36:52] <zinid> flow, but when match_all is set, then all packets will be rejected, including subscription
[16:37:01] <flow> excellent
[16:37:15] <zinid> well, at least from what I see in the code 😉
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[16:58:52] <flow> is there a difference between c2s_dhfile and dhfile in ejabberd_c2s?
[16:59:30] <flow> (same question for s2s)
[16:59:47] <zinid> you cannot use listening `dhfile` option per domain
[16:59:52] <zinid> better to configure c2s_* one
[17:00:19] <flow> is c2s_dhfile also available in 17.04?
[17:00:21] <zinid> c2s_dhfile: "/path/to/file"
s2s_dhfile: "/path/to/file"
[17:00:26] <zinid> let me check
[17:01:36] <zinid> yes
[17:03:27] <zinid> but I would recommend to upgrade to 18.01, certificates configuration is drastically simplified there and the dh parameters are by default from RFC5114
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[17:05:03] <flow> hopefully gentoo will bump soon to 18.01
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[17:18:08] <marc> zinid: what calls roster_in_subscription?
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[17:20:52] <marc> Ah, damn.. found it
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[19:21:33] <zinid> marc, if you're searching for hooks, can always consult this gist: https://gist.github.com/zinid/5fa063f9121cede9ae747a480bce09d5
[19:22:12] <zinid> marc, I'm trying to keep it up to date, but you're able to generate one on your own: `$ tools/hook_deps.sh src`
[19:23:08] <zinid> marc, in your case: https://gist.github.com/zinid/5fa063f9121cede9ae747a480bce09d5#file-hooks_type_test-erl-L899
[19:26:03] <marc> zinid, thanks!
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[21:04:10] <flow> Hmm: [error] <0.544.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_terminated:280 (tcp|<0.543.0>) Failed to secure c2s connection: TLS failed: Setting DH parameters failed: error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory
[21:04:31] <flow> would be great if the error message included the file/directory argument of fopen
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