Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, March 30, 2018< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
Room Configuration
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[10:10:56] <JuniorJPDJ> did anyone tried to connect http upload with nextcloud?
[10:12:43] <zinid> Nextcloud...
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[10:13:27] <zinid> Why people love all these silos?
[10:13:47] <zinid> Why not asking about ipfs or dat?
[10:14:05] <JuniorJPDJ> Bcs I don't need decentralization
[10:14:11] <JuniorJPDJ> And I need working web interface
[10:14:19] <JuniorJPDJ> + calendar + contacts + apps
[10:14:22] <JuniorJPDJ> tasks
[10:14:44] <JuniorJPDJ> and now want to integrate xmpp to that ecosystem
[10:14:49] <zinid> Then use WhatsApp on iPhone
[10:14:53] <JuniorJPDJ> lol wtf
[10:15:08] <JuniorJPDJ> can you just respond my question or not spam it?
[10:15:17] <JuniorJPDJ> noone asked you for alternative
[10:15:38] <JuniorJPDJ> so.. I'm gonna ask again
[10:15:48] <JuniorJPDJ> Have anyone tried to connect http upload with nextcloud?
[10:16:58] <zinid> dude, you should stop talking to me this way in this room
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[10:20:32] <JuniorJPDJ> And you should stop treating people like shit just bcs they have other opinion than you
[10:20:37] <JuniorJPDJ> just stop, plz
[10:21:13] <zinid> but you're shit
[10:21:19] <JuniorJPDJ> Lol you don't know me
[10:21:22] <zinid> how can I treat shit?
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[10:21:39] <zinid> I don't need to know you to undestand you're stupid piece of shit
[10:21:49] <JuniorJPDJ> XD
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[10:23:13] <JuniorJPDJ> https://xmpp.juniorjpdj.pl/upload/HPbYUaSDHk_Mdzxz/consider-suicide-type-the-two-words-captcha-stop-books-1148377.png
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[10:54:30] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> JuniorJPDJ: left... That's your fault asshole zinid
[10:54:34] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> 😂😂😂😂
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[11:04:03] <Andrew Nenakhov> 👍👍👍
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[11:16:24] <rom1dep> zinid: nextcloud is very much a sluggish, buggy and bloated php app, but how is it a silo? in that definition, every XMPP server is a silo
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[11:31:14] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> I use nextcloud ...
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[11:32:16] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> But I think I'll not need it anymore .. Movim now fulfills all my needs
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[11:53:15] <rom1dep> The features set overlap is so narrow that this sentence strikes me as "not the tool for the job" 🙂
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[12:22:48] <bowlofeggs> interesting i didn't know about movim
[12:22:51] <bowlofeggs> sounds neat
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[12:23:35] <bowlofeggs> i use owncloud (nextcloud is a fork of it)… aaaand i don't love it but i also don't know a great alternative to it
[12:23:43] <bowlofeggs> (well except nextcloud)
[12:24:46] <bowlofeggs> one of my buddies suggesting using smaller more targeted apps instead (so a caldav server that just does caldav/carddav, an RSS reader, and a webdav server)
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[12:52:01] <rom1dep> Yeah for me nextcloud is a glorified file sever with sharing capabilities, I don't use other apps but the gallery
[12:52:17] <rom1dep> (which seriously sucks)
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[16:02:01] <marc> zinid, is it possible to have two preauth elements with different NS?
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[16:11:16] <edhelas> bowlofeggs hi, Movim maintener here o/
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[17:26:20] <zinid> marc, you should include xmlns then inside #preauth{} record
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[17:27:12] <marc> zinid, I know, PARS and XEP-401 both define a <preauth> element, one with token one without
[17:27:18] <marc> But have different NS
[17:27:24] <marc> zinid, is that a problem?
[17:27:34] <zinid> yes, that's a problem
[17:27:36] <marc> I think I can have only one #preauth{} record
[17:27:46] <zinid> yep
[17:27:55] <zinid> what, do you have deficit of tag names?
[17:28:30] <zinid> well you can of course do ugly #preauth{} and #preauth_pars{} or something
[17:28:36] <marc> zinid, yes, I'm not very creative :p
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[17:29:16] <marc> zinid, okay, will do that for now - maybe we change the element names later...
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[18:17:17] <bowlofeggs> edhelas: hi, and cool :)
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[20:19:24] <zinid> ok, I'm back to tkabber again, all these new clients are buggy sluggish piece of shit
[20:19:33] <zinid> I probably need to start maintaining tkabber...
[20:23:42] <Link Mauve> I’m working on making poezio faster!
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[20:24:09] <Link Mauve> Currently designing a better cache system for slixmpp.
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[20:38:19] <zinid> tried new gajim: https://gist.github.com/zinid/4f4c7b26cbfb3a654d08764f9feba804
[20:38:23] <zinid> what a piece of shit...
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[20:42:48] <Link Mauve> zinid, looks like you are not running a wallet software such as gnome-keyring or such.
[20:42:59] <Link Mauve> Please open a ticket.
[20:43:27] <zinid> yes, I'm not, that's not the reason to raise exceptions like there is no tomorrow
[20:43:32] <Link Mauve> The old libsecret code at least worked and had been tested… ¬_¬
[20:43:51] <Link Mauve> zinid, this is all this new python-keyring code, not Gajim itself.
[20:44:46] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: so, OMEMO for Tkabber, when?😋
[20:46:01] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, after heat death of the universe
[20:46:23] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: So before OTRv4 then? Noice!
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[22:51:14] <Link Mauve> And, caps are now cached on disk!
[22:52:04] <Link Mauve> Speaking of caps, I recently wrote a Prosody module to cache them, and another to optimise direct disco#info into returning the caps without querying the remote entity.
[22:52:20] <Link Mauve> You may want to do similar things.
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[22:53:29] <Link Mauve> I also started writing another module to put ecaps2 hashes in users’ presences when they have announced caps and we know the related disco#info, but that’s not fully done yet.
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