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[04:40:34] <zinid> Holger: well it's possible to add automagically, yes 😃
[04:41:14] <zinid> But who would have written it 😁
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[06:12:42] <Holger> zinid: Yeah that's fine. Am I right that child elements will auto-inherit the namespace from the parent? I mean when parent and child can both have multiple namespaces and I construct #parent{xmlns = ?NS_FOO_0, child = #whatever{}}.
[06:14:35] <Holger> Or do I need to say #parent{xmlns = ?NS_FOO_0, child = {xmlns = ?NS_FOO_0}}?
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[06:16:45] <zinid> yes, they will inherit, no need to set it explicitly
[06:17:06] <Holger> Nice, thanks.
[06:17:22] <Holger> One day I will have understood all of the spec magic.
[06:17:34] <zinid> mindblowning 😀
[06:22:18] <zinid> what a nice commit hash I created: 6999333
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[07:09:00] <rom1dep> 😎
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[07:21:17] <wiktor> you should be mining crypto if you're interested in nice hashes ;)
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[11:05:28] <beitter> hi all
[11:05:33] beitter is now known as spicewiesel
[11:05:39] <zinid> Hi
[11:06:01] <spicewiesel> better... I've got an issue with my ejabberd after the server crashed (power issues in the DC) 2 weeks ago.
[11:06:12] <spicewiesel> ejabberd now needs a long time to actually start
[11:06:58] <spicewiesel> for example: if I start with ejabberdctl live I won't see any logs (and now log file) for maybe 2-5mins. Then it starts as usual
[11:07:10] <spicewiesel> for example: if I start with ejabberdctl live I won't see any logs (and a new log file) for maybe 2-5mins. Then it starts as usual
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[11:07:43] <spicewiesel> any guesses why this happens or where I could try to debug?
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[11:11:51] <spicewiesel> and - of course - I got another problem I could need help with :)
[11:12:38] <spicewiesel> I switched to default_db: sql and now I get those messages:
[error] CRASH REPORT Process <0.518.0> with 0 neighbours exited with reason: {aborted,{no_exists,[sql_pool,<<"mydomain.com">>]}} in p1_server:terminate/7 line 878
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[11:13:23] <spicewiesel> What I do not understand is that I see the same message even when I deliberately configured a wrong password/user in the ejabberd.yml. erlang-p1-mysql is installed, it's 17.08 on Ubuntu 16.04
[11:13:37] <spicewiesel> What I do not understand is that I see the same message even when I deliberately configure a wrong password/user in the ejabberd.yml. erlang-p1-mysql is installed, it's 17.08 on Ubuntu 16.04
[11:14:10] <zinid> I think something is wrong with mnesia
[11:14:58] <spicewiesel> zinid, I already deinstalled ejabberd and deleted the var/lib/ejabberd folder to start from scratch
[11:15:18] <Holger> Deleted the *folder* or just the contents?
[11:15:24] <spicewiesel> so, right now it's freshly installed, freshly injected database
[11:15:27] <Holger> Not sure Mnesia will re-create the folder :-)
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[11:15:48] <spicewiesel> Holger, it does not :) That's why I recreated it with correct ownerships
[11:15:49] <zinid> Mnesia will, if enough access
[11:15:53] <Holger> Ah ok.
[11:15:55] <spicewiesel> zinid, yep
[11:16:15] <zinid> So what problem do you see now?
[11:16:21] <spicewiesel> it then recreated the contents
[11:16:27] <spicewiesel> both problems :)
[11:16:52] <spicewiesel> right now the database issue is the show stopper, that ejabberd needs 5min to start... I could for now live with it as long as the server could be work with sql
[11:17:09] <spicewiesel> so, let's put the start delay aside for now
[11:17:20] <spicewiesel> I configured sql in host_config for my 3 hosts
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[11:18:08] <zinid> Set loglevel 5 to see where it hangs
[11:18:16] <spicewiesel> and I see the no_exists,sql_pool message. Then I configured one database and disabled all host_config stuff, same error. Then I configured a wrong database user, same message (I would've exptected some invalid credentials lines here)
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[11:19:17] <zinid> no_exists might also relate to problems with mnesia
[11:19:20] <spicewiesel> ok
[11:19:24] <zinid> Or incorrect configuration
[11:19:45] <zinid> So discover logs in debug level first
[11:19:48] <spicewiesel> yes, that might be a problem but I just cannot find my mistake
[11:20:31] <zinid> You can post the configuration somewhere
[11:20:44] <spicewiesel> what I did: I configured "default_db: sql" and then removed auth_db and the other db/sql options as I got the dafault_db
[11:21:37] <zinid> spicewiesel: and did you configure sql_blah_blah options?
[11:21:51] <spicewiesel> yes
[11:22:16] <spicewiesel> global ones (right now) but I tried to work with host_config for my different hosts, to separate the dbs
[11:22:29] <zinid> It should work then, until you didn't fuckup the indentation or some such
[11:22:34] <spicewiesel> ;)
[11:23:06] <spicewiesel> okay, the first error with sql on exist is
13:21:13.702 [debug] No custom Mnesia schema for table 'muc_online_room' found
13:21:13.702 [error] failed to get rooms: {'EXIT',{aborted,{no_exists,[sql_pool,<<"mydomain.com">>]}}}
[11:23:19] <spicewiesel> so, it seems there's still mnesia where I would've expected sql
[11:24:06] <zinid> muc_online_room is a mnesia table
[11:24:18] <zinid> It's just not stored on disc
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[11:26:00] <spicewiesel> should it be a sql table with default_db: sql?
[11:26:07] <zinid> No
[11:26:10] <spicewiesel> ok
[11:27:20] <zinid> RAM-tables are only stored in SQL if `default_ram_db: sql` is set
[11:27:27] <spicewiesel> ok
[11:27:40] <spicewiesel> so maybe it's not related to the error in the next line?
[11:27:43] <zinid> Except a few tables where it's not implemented
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[11:27:56] <zinid> spicewiesel: it's not related, no
[11:28:01] <spicewiesel> ok
[11:28:18] <zinid> So do you see where the server got stuck?
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[11:32:19] <spicewiesel> it starts and then I see those 3 errors in loop:
13:30:58.531 [error] gen_server <0.470.0> terminated with reason: {aborted,{no_exists,[sql_pool,<<"domain.de">>]}}
13:30:58.531 [error] CRASH REPORT Process <0.470.0> with 0 neighbours exited with reason: {aborted,{no_exists,[sql_pool,<<"domain.de">>]}} in p1_server:terminate/7 line 878
13:30:58.532 [error] Supervisor ejabberd_c2s_sup had child undefined started with {ejabberd_c2s,start_link,undefined} at <0.470.0> exit with reason {aborted,{no_exists,[sql_pool,<<"domain.de">>]}} in context child_terminated
[11:32:54] <zinid> Sigh
[11:33:26] <zinid> Do you have remsh access?
[11:33:36] <zinid> ejabberdctl debug
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[11:35:37] <zinid> Also, post the relevant snippet of the SQL configuration
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[11:37:35] <zinid> You should see an error message in the log
[11:37:56] <zinid> spicewiesel: sql_type: mysql
[11:38:04] <zinid> Or what server you have
[11:38:16] <zinid> Without quotes
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[11:38:43] <zinid> And please don't ignore configuration error messages in the log
[11:39:13] <spicewiesel> the log told me that it ignores the unkown value of mysql for sql_type
[11:39:33] <zinid> Because you put it in brackets
[11:39:38] <zinid> In quotes
[11:39:41] <spicewiesel> that's why I started to try and error here, but maybe it was just because of the "
[11:39:42] <spicewiesel> yes
[11:39:57] <spicewiesel> let's see... (start needs some minutes now)
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[11:40:30] <zinid> Why? Is it still dead slow at startup?
[11:40:33] <spicewiesel> yes
[11:40:57] <zinid> And you do not see logs during that hangs?
[11:41:02] <spicewiesel> that issue exists since the server crashed 2 weeks ago and before I tried to switch to sql
[11:41:48] <spicewiesel> mysql works now, thank you very much... I would've never seen those " as a problem
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[11:43:42] <zinid> These are described in the docs and on top of default config, but who reads it, meh
[11:44:25] <spicewiesel> It's open all day long but sometimes you just oversee stuff like that
[11:44:28] <zinid> New ejabberd doesn't ignore unknown options btw, so you're better off to eliminate them all
[11:48:09] <zinid> So, regarding slow startup: first of all ejabberd reports startup time (in ejabberd.log), what time does it report?
[11:48:19] <spicewiesel> let me check
[11:49:21] <zinid> grep 'is started in'
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[11:50:31] <spicewiesel> 1.43s
[11:52:11] <zinid> So this slow startup is not related to ejabberd
[11:52:40] <zinid> It's some systemd problem, or maybe Erlang gets corrupted
[11:52:47] <spicewiesel> okay
[11:53:09] <spicewiesel> that's good to know as I know where to search next
[11:53:15] <spicewiesel> thanks a lot for you help, zinid
[11:53:24] <zinid> You're welcome
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[12:01:51] <spicewiesel> maybe erlang, if ejabberd stopped there's always an epmd process left
[12:01:58] <spicewiesel> maybe erlang, if ejabberd's stopped there's always an epmd process left
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[12:02:51] <zinid> epmd should be there
[12:02:59] <zinid> It's normal
[12:03:24] <spicewiesel> okay, I don't remember that from the old server, but maybe cause there were no problems and I did'nt check it :)
[12:04:36] <spicewiesel> okay, I don't remember that from the old server, but maybe cause there were no problems and I didn't check it :)
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[13:17:16] <mightyBroccoli> I noticed that mod_block_strangers log stanzas from chatrooms even though there was no direct messaging within the muc.
2018-05-30 14:39:09.522 [info] <0.7990.10>@mod_block_strangers:check_message:159 Allow message from stranger random.random@conference.magicbroccoli.de/random to anotherrandomuser@magicbroccoli.de/Conversations.W3lV
Everyday 3 to 10 notices are logged about 2 users i definitely know are not using direct messaging. What can I do about this?
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[15:13:39] <zinid> so, according to what you said, the room is sending spurious messages? even though the user is not joined to it?
[15:13:56] <zinid> what means "direct messaging"?
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[15:20:11] <zinid> Is it only me who noticed idiotic questions appearing in recent days in our github bugtracker?
[15:23:40] <Holger> > i want to Autorefresh F5 key press for specific program Eg: Browser or MS Excel. How i can do this.
[15:24:38] <zinid> that's the dumbest for sure
[15:25:04] <Holger> "Off-topic here, please ask in the Prosody tracker."
[15:25:29] <zinid> 😀
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[15:35:50] <Licaon_Kter> ejabberd on Windows on EC2 AWS, yay combo
[15:37:12] <zinid> Holger, high quality code again: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_configure.erl#L826
[15:37:58] <Holger> \o/
[15:38:43] <zinid> $ grep 'EXIT' src/*.erl | wc -l
123
[15:38:53] <zinid> now that's not funny 😕
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[15:41:55] <zinid> Holger, hum, if we rewrite mod_configure (XEP-0133) using xdata_codec we probably reduce the code twice 😉
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[15:43:43] <Holger> Hehe probably.
[15:43:59] <Holger> You're looking into it for the web interface?
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[15:48:31] <zinid> no, I'm looking into it because of this: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2439
[15:49:07] <zinid> scroll to my comments
[15:51:39] <zinid> but the code should be definitely shared, yes
[15:51:52] <zinid> I mean shared between mod_configure and web-admin
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[15:58:31] <Holger> Ah! I saw "Redis" in the subject and deleted the emails ;-)
[16:00:25] <zinid> y u hatin' redis?
[16:01:02] <Holger> Hehe no I just don't use it so I'm clueless.
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[16:54:20] <zinid> Holger, your friend again: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2447
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[16:55:59] <zinid> "when I press this button nothing works, plz halp"
[16:57:04] <Holger> Sigh.
[16:57:09] <Holger> "Please ask in the Prosody tracker."
[16:58:24] <daniel> Doesn't that mean xmpp is popular? 🤔
[16:58:25] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: why U no bother saying "use xmpp client" ?😛
[16:58:41] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Go ahead!
[16:58:55] <zinid> Honestly, I wouldn't be that angry if we had people answering such questions, but I really don't want to waste my time for this
[16:59:04] <Licaon_Kter> I can't Erlang, so what do I know, amirite? 😂
[16:59:25] <Holger> You need Erlang knowledge to respond to that guy?
[17:00:05] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: gotcha 😛
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[17:01:24] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, y u not know erlang yet?
[17:02:39] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I read a bit last night, I'm at
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[17:04:25] <Holger> 👍
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[17:06:08] <zinid> oh, you're progressing, hang on
[17:08:04] <Licaon_Kter> Ok, so postman is something that does http and more, but why bother with ejabberd as server?🤔
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[17:13:28] <zinid> Sometimes I have the same question: why all those Kumars using ejabberd without an XMPP client
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[17:16:37] <daniel> zinid: I assume they are developing their own
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[17:19:56] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: u racecist, anyone can do anything, with the code ;)
Also, http_upload is kinda the giveaway, Y U no upload⁉️ 🙃
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[17:26:05] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: no racism, 90% of questions coming from guys from India and half of them have name Kumar 😁
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[18:04:37] <zinid> Holger: could you please merge https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/2446
[18:04:43] <zinid> I'm AFK
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[18:54:32] <Holger> zinid: Done.
[18:55:05] <zinid> 👍
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[20:04:32] <curiosjoe> which client do you guys recommend on Linux?
[20:06:28] <curiosjoe> btw is this channel`s traffic ssl?
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[20:29:01] <Licaon_Kter> curiosjoe: dino.im
Always TLS yup, why?
[20:32:25] <curiosjoe> hyst "curious" :)
[20:32:33] <curiosjoe> just
[20:34:02] <curiosjoe> Licaon_Kter: thanks, I did not know about dino client
[20:34:54] <zinid> there is also Gajim
[20:34:57] <zinid> both shit
[20:35:16] <curiosjoe> gajim did not work for me, throws not reading ssl cert ut8 error type of crap
[20:35:43] <zinid> typical Gajim
[20:35:59] <curiosjoe> every other client works, so I gave up on it
[20:36:50] <zinid> Gajim doesn't work for me neither, it requires some key ring, or shit like that, then just flood me with tracebacks
[20:37:00] <zinid> *floods
[20:37:21] <curiosjoe> the devs asked me to fix my LE "certs"
[20:39:17] <zinid> the only usable client in xmpp is Conversations, but it's Android only
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[20:40:46] <curiosjoe> zinid: I use it, but the only issue I have is it  does not support otr and not many desktop clients seems to support omeme, but android to android is great
[20:40:58] <curiosjoe> omemo
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[20:45:45] <curiosjoe> Interesting that COnversation to Dino.im omemo does not work, bot has each others keys
[20:46:24] <curiosjoe> ahh never mind, it had to get enabled in the typing area additionally
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[20:52:31] zinid shrugs
[20:52:35] zinid doesn't use OMEMO
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[21:24:55] <rom1dep> > Gajim doesn't work for me neither, it requires some key ring, or shit like that, then just flood me with tracebacks
I don't do the keyring stuff either, I get the traceback in the console and then it ends up asking for my password, so all in all it works.
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[21:33:15] <curiosjoe> rom1dep: what certs do you use for your server?
[21:34:13] <mightyBroccoli> I wanted to try the statsdx module but I get these hook errors all over the place and therefor empty stats pages. What am I missing here?
https://hastebin.wiuwiu.de/ulayovelef.rb
[21:34:40] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: I obtain my certs from letsencrypt
[21:35:19] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: but even in case of invalid server certificates gajim prompts you and you can just ignore it
[21:36:03] <zinid> mightyBroccoli, statsdx is shitty unmaintained crap
[21:36:12] <curiosjoe> yeah I use LE as well, but likie I said it says something utf8 about the certs and refuses to connect
[21:36:44] <zinid> it won't work with recent ejabberd, I actually do not recommend to use third-party modules at all, they are of a very poor quality (yeah, I'm polite!)
[21:37:23] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: sounds terribly wrong. Which version of gajim is that?
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[21:37:38] <mightyBroccoli> zinid, I like stats though and the munin stuff seems to be mostly broken crap
[21:38:52] <curiosjoe> rom1dep:  1.0.3
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[21:39:21] <curiosjoe> on Debian testing
[21:40:02] <curiosjoe> I probably wont use it since i kinda like psi+
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[21:40:24] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: https://check.messaging.one/
[21:40:42] <rom1dep> Do you have a result page from there?
[21:41:16] <rom1dep> May help highlighting a misconfiguration
[21:43:47] <curiosjoe> rom1dep: not sure so far so good, I mean my tls and all that seems to be doing ok
[21:43:52] <edhelas> Holger do you know who runs jabber.at ?
[21:44:07] <Holger> edhelas: Yes I know the admin(s).
[21:44:21] <edhelas> is it up to date ejabberd servers ?
[21:44:31] <edhelas> just wondering if they are configured correctly for movim ?
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[21:44:59] <Holger> edhelas: They are both in chat@conference.jabber.at usually.
[21:45:02] <rom1dep> edhelas: don't they have their ejabberd config opensourced somewhere?
[21:45:10] <Holger> Yes: https://github.com/jabber-at/config
[21:45:25] <curiosjoe> rom1dep: Error: Connection failed. on :5269
[21:45:31] <curiosjoe> not sure
[21:45:54] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: you are testing s2s
[21:45:56] <curiosjoe> maybe it is still testing
[21:45:59] <curiosjoe> yeah
[21:46:24] <rom1dep> You want to test c2s preferably in this case
[21:46:45] <rom1dep> (not that it should matter much)
[21:47:38] <curiosjoe> rom1dep: yeah so far soo good with c2s, all certs are up
[21:47:54] <curiosjoe> like I said every other client on the planet works except gajim
[21:47:59] <mightyBroccoli> ahh and to my question from above I have block strangers set up with log true.
[info] <0.20922.8>@mod_block_strangers:check_message:159 Allow message from stranger temptemp@conference.magicbroccoli.de to useruser@magicbroccoli.de
this seems strange to me as there is not temptemp@conference.magicbroccoli.de/anotheruser, using the direct message from within the anonymised muc. I dont get this.
[21:48:34] <rom1dep> curiosjoe: which server is it?
[21:49:04] <edhelas> !version jabber.at
[21:49:05] <Servant> edhelas: jabber.at is running ejabberd version 18.01 on unix/linux 4.9.0
[21:51:15] <edhelas> oh also I still have to open a ticket to ask for a way to set a name for hosts
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[21:55:16] <zinid> https://twitter.com/00d4n1/status/999418216932720642
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[21:57:37] <edhelas> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXDvahlqmBnfCnfG1hWhqhUZ4-ZT5Uyl2om4yvLRXqFfkdq-XHgQ
[21:58:31] <zinid> 😀
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[22:04:03] <marek> > https://twitter.com/00d4n1/status/999418216932720642
🤔
[22:04:55] <edhelas> "someone is wrong on the internet"
[22:05:13] <edhelas> yeah json is so much better, everyone knows that
[22:05:46] <edhelas> that's why matrix.org had to disable presences for their main instances, because their XML servers could handle the load… wait :^)
[22:07:49] <zinid> yeah, they failed miserably
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