Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, June 1, 2018< ^ >
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[05:39:33] <Holger> Yay my private server died.
[05:39:49] <Holger> (While writing commit messages ...)
[05:43:05] <zinid> what happened with it?
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[05:55:38] <Holger> I had a RAID 1 but both disks died within a few days.
[05:56:48] <Holger> I've seen S.M.A.R.T. complaining and even had a replacement disk but didn't get to actually replacing it in time ...
[05:58:06] <Holger> System just froze and fails to reboot. Maybe I can rescue something when attaching a display.
[06:00:28] <Holger> Otherwise I lost some commits and emails and stuff (last backup is a week old) 😡
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[06:01:37] <zinid> oh shit
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[06:06:04] <edhelas> hello o/
[06:07:07] <rom1dep> Holger: that's some bad luck, sorry to hear!
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[06:11:16] <Holger> I wanted to get rid of that server in my living room for ages, seems now is a good time to finally move to some hosted VM.
[06:11:25] <Holger> But that'll take a few days of boring work, meh.
[06:12:17] <Holger> And I'll have way less disk space ...
[06:12:41] <zinid> yeah, disk space on VMs is expensive
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[06:18:04] <marek> Holger: shit, sorry to hear that
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[06:43:26] <marek> Holger: would be interesting to talk about, which hoster to choose.
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[06:50:43] <Holger> marek: I already have a VM at in-berlin.de but if some other hoster offers cheap disk space I might move.
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[07:21:06] <alacer> Holger: well for cheap deals refer to lowendbox.com but I have used VPS and reached a conclusion that at least 1 server with NAS at home serves far better for building or testing. off couse I mean to use free ESXi on home server and back up on nas even whole VMs. Cloud is good but usually I use it for any demo or testing where live ip matters or sec certs required etc.
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[09:58:11] <mightyBroccoli> Holger: I would say NetCup. They even have VM boxes solely für storing stuff.
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[10:27:29] <Holger> mightyBroccoli: Yeah others recommended them as well. I wasn't aware of the storage VMs, thanks.
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[10:41:52] holger is now known as Holger Weiß
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[10:47:21] <beitter> Holger, I migrated to netcup earlier this year it's fine
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[10:53:27] <alacer> Holger: Storage VMs usually don't have enough Memory or CPU Cores available. The primary purpose is to host you own services like ftp or ownCloud etc... Should not work as a build server but only as a storage box...
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[10:55:37] <Holger> Yes that might work as a backup solution for my existing VM.
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[11:08:50] <Licaon_Kter> The lowendbox.com comment section is pure gold, maybe I should offer docker hosting for sale on my RPi1B... 256Mb go a long way 😛.. plenty of storage on my 32Gb SD card too...
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[13:48:37] <bammes> Holger, I pay 30€/month for a Server from the Hetzner Serverboerse
[13:48:57] <bammes> 2*3TB Disks 16G RAM,....
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[13:50:03] <bammes> thats most likely less than your electricity bill
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[13:50:23] <SouL> do you make money out of it, bammes ?
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[13:50:46] <Holger> bammes: Well not really, electricity is way cheaper, but the price sounds good yes.
[13:50:54] <bammes> SouL, compensating the costs a bit
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[13:52:14] <bammes> SouL, but I would keep the server, even without the few euros for some hosting
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[13:52:34] <bammes> I like playing with infrastructure
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[13:53:31] <bammes> I do it in my daytime job, and I started doing it from the age of 14 on (now being 28)
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[13:54:00] <bammes> back in the days, my parents paid the electricity bills for the "servers" in the basement :D
[13:55:07] <SouL> Hehe, great!
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[13:56:02] <Holger> I had a bunch of Sun servers/workstations in my flat for years.
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[13:56:20] <Holger> No idea how I managed to pay the electricity bills and cope with the noise.
[13:56:24] <Holger> And not loose my wife.
[13:57:10] <Holger> Today I mostly hate playing with infrastrucure.
[13:57:19] <Holger> Still part of my dayjob tho :-)
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[13:57:43] <bammes> Holger, have we met in irc before?
[13:57:56] Holger == emias
[13:57:57] <bammes> Holger, maybe in a skolelinux/debian-edu related channel?
[13:58:11] <bammes> or suselinux?
[13:58:15] <Holger> Debian without edu maybe ...
[13:58:45] <bammes> if you don't use Holger as your nick on irc, then most likely not :)
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[14:01:05] <Holger> Nope ...
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[14:07:57] <zinid> > Today I mostly hate playing with infrastrucure.
You're just too old 😀
[14:08:36] <zinid> but nowadays for me it's PITA even to re-install linux, so fucking boooooring
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[16:17:15] <404> https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2018-06/bundesjustizministerin-katarina-barley-whats-app-messenger-oeffnung Minister Germany Katarina Barley talks about XMPP, but she does not understand what XMPP says. The extensibility of XMPP is done for this. The she site https://katarina-barley.de/ The she Twitter https://twitter.com/katarinabarley The she Facebook https://www.facebook.com/1522202731410785  Guys let's make XMPP an international communication standard!  Let's make  Jabber better than WhatsApp Let's write to her and say that there is a XMPP to merge messengers  katarina.barley@bundestag.de
[16:18:16] <zinid> 404, yes, we're participating conversations@ room, thanks 😉
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