Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, July 7, 2018< ^ >
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[07:19:30] <edhelas> does ejabberd automatically put "service providers" for the admins in the roster of the other accounts ,
[07:19:32] <edhelas> ?
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[08:00:36] <zinid> not sure if ejabberd pushes anything into rosters automatically until mod_shared_roster is used
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[12:14:24] <mightyBroccoli> I wanted to user_regexp accounts starting with "." and/ or ",". I used though only the "," one does work. The "." one states that an unknown escape character is found. Isnt that the normal way to escape regex?
> user_regexp:
>   - "^\..*$"
>   - "^,.*$"
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[12:25:47] <zinid> Try double slash
[12:25:55] <zinid> That's retarded
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[12:35:00] <mightyBroccoli> ok \\. seems to cut it :) thanks zinid
but I am not off right normally it should be sufficient with one backslash right?
[12:36:15] <zinid> mightyBroccoli: I cannot say where the problem is, most likely some yaml+erlang escaping combo
[12:36:27] <zinid> Would be nice to investigate though
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[12:38:54] <zinid> Or maybe just erlang...
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[12:47:15] <mightyBroccoli> but there is some magic behind all this. The yml file lists \\. but the webui states only \.
yaml at least AFAIK only needs a single backslash to escape. I would guess the yml erlang combination requires the double backslash
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[12:49:46] <mightyBroccoli> I could paste you the whole error message maybe that would help to center in on this.
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[13:14:18] <zinid> mightyBroccoli: nah, I can check myself
[13:14:32] <zinid> I'll check it later
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[15:05:45] <mightyBroccoli> ok :)
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[15:22:27] <Dominik Paulus> Hi! I'm having some weird problems with ejabberd 18.04. I've got three hosts configured on my ejabberd (hostA.de, hostB.xyz and xmpp.hostC.net). all hosts are using postgres-databases and no mnesia storage, and all hosts have exactly the same configuration, except the database name and the http_file_upload-host. running the conversations-xmpp-compliance-tester against the first two hosts works absolutely fine, but the last one (xmpp.hostC.net) shows a lot of failures. setting the ejabberd loglevel to 5 shows that e.g. the jabber:iq:roster gets a 503 (No module is handling this query) as a response, even though it also explicitely states that mod_roster is loaded for this host
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[15:26:38] <Dominik Paulus> What am I doing wrong? Is this somehow related to the third host using a xmpp. subdomain (i.e. routing of the message somehow broken)? (if there is any more information I could provide, let me know)
[15:27:01] <zinid> 'No module is handling this query' means mod_roster is not loaded
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[15:27:36] <zinid> you can provide a configuration file of course 😉
[15:27:41] <zinid> I think there are errors
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[15:28:00] <zinid> and subdomain shouldn't be an issue
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[15:30:49] <Dominik Paulus> I've sent you the config :-)
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[15:34:36] <zinid> Dominik Paulus, yeah, I'm checking
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[15:41:58] <zinid> Dominik Paulus, indeed, something is wrong with that third domain
[15:42:01] <zinid> I'm checking
[15:42:50] <Dominik Paulus> hmm?
[15:46:36] <zinid> ah
[15:46:39] <zinid> of course
[15:47:07] <zinid> ```
"xmpp.moshbit.net":
    auth_method: sql
    ...
    mod_http_upload:
        host: "xmpp.moshbit.net"
```
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[15:47:10] <zinid> you cannot do that
[15:50:03] <Dominik Paulus> uhm, indeed, makes sense
[15:50:17] <Dominik Paulus> although it was imho highly non-obvious when looking at the config and the logfiles
[15:50:36] <Dominik Paulus> thank you! :-)
[15:51:11] <zinid> yeah, I need to add some check, seems like
[15:51:31] <zinid> ah, also, your config has quite some warnings, doesn't this bother you? 🙂
[15:51:56] <Dominik Paulus> that config evolved historically, the host was just named moshbit.net before (and now isn't anymore as I'm lacking a tls cert for that domain :-) )
[15:52:14] <zinid> keeping the config in such state may suddenly prevent future ejabberd versions from loading
[15:52:21] <Dominik Paulus> I know
[15:52:47] <zinid> 1) rename mod_http_bind => mod_bosh
2) remove all `certfile` options and use a single top level `certfiles` option
[15:52:59] <zinid> e.g.
certfiles:
  - "/path/to/certs/*.pem"
[15:53:46] <zinid> also, seems like you have just set TLS defaults, so you can remove them from the config too
[15:53:57] <zinid> except dhparams maybe
[15:54:47] <zinid> and for a compliance suite you're lacking mod_proxy65
[15:55:54] <zinid> even dhparams is actually not required nowadays because ejabbed has good dhparams defaults too
[15:56:26] <zinid> 3) move resend_on_timeout from listening option to mod_stream_mgmt
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[16:01:54] <zinid> Dominik Paulus, you don't need a certificate for the http upload subdomain if you don't plan to allow users from other servers to upload files via it
[16:02:08] <Dominik Paulus> I know
[16:02:08] <zinid> just ditch all those `host` options from `mod_http_upload`
[16:02:19] <zinid> you will get a warning, but seems like you don't care 😀
[16:02:42] <Dominik Paulus> It was more about the certificate for the actual c2s/s2s-host 😉
[16:03:07] <zinid> yeah, I mean, I suggest how to fix your current situation now the easies way
[16:03:13] <Dominik Paulus> well, I do care and I was aware of most things you said (except resend_on_timeout) :-)
[16:03:21] <Dominik Paulus> but thanks for pushing me towards actually touching it
[16:03:44] <zinid> > Listening option 'resend_on_timeout' is ignored: use 'resend_on_timeout' option from mod_stream_mgmt module
[16:03:54] <zinid> did I say something different? 😛
[16:05:25] <zinid> Dominik Paulus, if this warning is not self-explanatory I can rephrase it
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[16:07:13] <prezident> can someone suggest a way to disable bouncing offline messages? do i need to add a hook to offline_message_hook with prio 99?
[16:08:01] <zinid> prezident, you don't have neither mod_offline nor mod_mam enabled?
[16:08:14] <prezident> both are
[16:08:21] <zinid> then why is it bounced?
[16:08:50] <prezident> tell me :)
[16:08:58] <zinid> telling: it shouldn't
[16:09:12] <zinid> this is either misconfiguration or a bug
[16:09:32] <zinid> is this message is supposed to be archived/offlined?
[16:09:44] <zinid> i.e. does it have body?
[16:09:48] <prezident> <error code='503' type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/><text xml:lang='en' xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'>User session not found</text>
[16:09:57] <prezident> yes it does
[16:10:05] <zinid> really?
[16:10:20] <zinid> are you using third-party modules hooked on offline_message_hook?
[16:10:28] <prezident> type='chat'><body>...</body><private xmlns='urn:xmpp:carbons:2'/><no-store xmlns='urn:xmpp:hints'/><request xmlns='urn:xmpp:receipts'/></message>
[16:10:34] <zinid> ah, no-store...
[16:10:49] <prezident> problem is its just bouncing on both sides
[16:10:55] <prezident> i blocked the s2s connection for now
[16:11:06] <zinid> what?
[16:11:12] <prezident> we send user session not found, they send unauthorized something
[16:11:22] <prezident> and then it keeps rotating like that
[16:11:43] <prezident> i dont know why it startet right now...
[16:11:52] <prezident> so i dont know the initial message
[16:12:00] <zinid> really? how is that possible, ejabberd doesn't bounce errors
[16:12:12] <prezident> and i suppose there souldnt be an anser to an error 503
[16:12:17] <zinid> show the full trace
[16:12:30] <prezident> i would have to expose private information
[16:12:35] <prezident> not my intention
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[16:12:39] <zinid> bounce_offline_message({bounce, #message{type = T} = Packet} = Acc)
    when T == chat; T == groupchat; T == normal ->
    Lang = xmpp:get_lang(Packet),
    Txt = <<"User session not found">>,
    Err = xmpp:err_service_unavailable(Txt, Lang),
    ejabberd_router:route_error(Packet, Err),
    {stop, Acc};
bounce_offline_message(Acc) ->
    Acc.
[16:12:51] <zinid> > when T == chat; T == groupchat; T == normal
[16:12:59] <zinid> so it doesn't match that branch
[16:13:03] <prezident> we received: type='chat'><body>...
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[16:13:14] <prezident> we send: error code='503' type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/><text xml:lang='en' xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'>User session not found</text></error>
[16:13:23] <zinid> so a client just resends 'chat' message when receiving an error, great
[16:13:26] <prezident> they then again send: type='chat'><body>...
[16:13:29] <prezident> we send the error
[16:13:35] <zinid> no
[16:13:36] <prezident> you know what i mean?
[16:13:47] <prezident> i can not control the other side...
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[16:14:06] <zinid> the other side should just hang
[16:14:11] <zinid> due to huge traffic
[16:14:31] <zinid> the other side is misbehaving clearly if it keeps sending 'chat' messages
[16:14:41] <prezident> of course it is
[16:14:54] <zinid> what client is this?
[16:14:57] <prezident> but still this needs to be handled
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[16:15:06] <prezident> honestly? something suspicous :)
[16:15:25] <prezident> could not find any information on the service at google
[16:15:46] <prezident> some sort of bitcoin bot maybe
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[16:16:26] <prezident> so do offline messages need to bounce at all?
[16:16:33] <Holger> prezident: Set the mod_stream_mgmt option "resend_on_timeout: if_offline"
[16:16:51] <zinid> Holger, if that bot is using SM at all 😉
[16:16:52] <prezident> Holger: already set
[16:17:04] <prezident> bot is on the other side...
[16:17:04] <Holger> Ah.
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[16:17:12] <Holger> Wat.
[16:17:17] <prezident> zinid posted the correct hook
[16:17:32] <prezident> thats causing the bouncing as there is no other mod handling the message firsthand
[16:17:51] <Holger> Ok, you guys will figure it out 🙂
[16:17:57] <prezident> maybe mod_offline should not respect the no-store option?
[16:17:57] <zinid> honestly we had such situation with some customer in the past
[16:18:19] <zinid> prezident, are you talking about your particular case or a general case?
[16:18:25] <zinid> because in general case of course it should
[16:18:44] <prezident> zinid: for me its this particular case
[16:19:01] <prezident> but this will always happen when the other side misbehaves
[16:19:09] <zinid> in your particular case you can add the hook or hack ejabberd_sm no to register the hook at all
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[16:20:59] <prezident> why is mod_offline ignoring no-storage messages at all?
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[16:21:50] <zinid> > 4.2 No store
> A message containing a <no-store/> hint should not be stored by a server either permanently (as above) or temporarily, e.g. for later delivery to an offline client, or to users not currently present in a chatroom.
[16:22:05] <zinid> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0334.html#no-store
[16:22:45] <Holger> So we're bouncing in the <no-store/> case?
[16:22:55] <zinid> Holger, yes
[16:23:07] <Holger> Hmmm.
[16:23:22] <Holger> Well probably that's desired, yes.
[16:23:25] <prezident> better thinking maybe it shouldnt bounce then :)
[16:23:37] <Holger> I think it should.
[16:24:00] <zinid> prezident, reason?
[16:24:20] <prezident> well how to handle such case?
[16:24:29] <zinid> what case?
[16:24:38] <zinid> ugly client?
[16:24:40] <zinid> fix it
[16:24:42] <Holger> prezident: A misbehaving client?
[16:24:46] <Holger> By fixing the client.
[16:24:50] <zinid> why would we add hacks for your ugly client?
[16:25:21] <Holger> prezident: You're suggesting the server should avoid sending traffic because some client handles that traffic in weird ways?
[16:25:49] <prezident> how to handle broken clients...
[16:25:52] <zinid> if you're bothered that much about that client then hack ejabberd_sm.erl or write a mod_foo where you intercept the message in offline_message_hook
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[16:26:42] <zinid> or, if I was you I would just put that JID into ACL
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[16:28:59] <prezident> maybe the client doesnt understand legacy error messages?
[16:29:01] <zinid> also, borked clients are able to loop traffic in a lot of ways
[16:29:03] <prezident> support xep-0182?
[16:29:15] <zinid> legacy error message?
[16:29:33] <prezident> xep-0086 says its deprecated
[16:29:40] <zinid> so?
[16:29:51] <zinid> where is the legacy error message?
[16:29:55] <prezident> if the client doenst support it its correct to ignore it
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[16:30:15] <prezident> "alongside a legacy error"
[16:30:17] <zinid> where is that fucking legacy error message?
[16:30:23] <prezident> "alongside a legacy error code"
[16:30:39] <prezident> iam interpreting that as error codes to be legacy
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[16:30:44] <prezident> and legacy errors are deprecated
[16:30:46] <prezident> but who knows
[16:30:48] <zinid> so don't pay attention to it
[16:30:58] <zinid> look, you're getting on my nerves
[16:31:02] <prezident> i know
[16:31:13] <prezident> maybe ignore me?
[16:31:16] <zinid> I already said what you can do
[16:31:25] <zinid> you keep proposing some crazy ideas
[16:31:48] <prezident> whats wrong with that?
[16:31:56] <zinid> so, if it ignores that "legacy error message", why the fuck it resends the original message?
[16:32:06] <zinid> ignores means drop?
[16:32:10] <prezident> because it doesnt see the error?
[16:32:16] <zinid> but why?
[16:32:29] <zinid> how error code prevents it to see <error/> tag?
[16:32:33] <prezident> because its old and legacy and deprecated
[16:32:44] <zinid> the tag is not deprecated, only the attribute
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[16:33:28] <zinid> your ideas are crazy because you're trying to investigate the least probable case
[16:33:40] <prezident> i dont see the xeps state any way of handling errors?
[16:33:41] <zinid> I think the client just doesn't give a fuck to errors at all
[16:33:52] <zinid> prezident, because it's in the RFC
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[16:34:56] <zinid> and we keep error code attribute for backward compatibility with older clients such as Miranda
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[16:37:36] <prezident> i dont see <error><text/></error> defined anyhwere
[16:37:40] <prezident> thats not compilant for me
[16:38:51] <prezident> thing is other party is just sending that it wants some sort of authorization
[16:39:01] <prezident> so maybe both sides are right...
[16:40:29] <daniel> If it's a bot doing some schabernack on your server just block the jid 🤷‍♂️
[16:42:13] <prezident> would ejabberd respect if other side was sending an error instead of a message?
[16:42:28] <prezident> yes it would sorry
[16:42:45] <zinid> > i dont see <error><text/></error> defined anyhwere
look, I will ban you now
[16:43:03] <zinid> doesn't look compliant to him, my ass
[16:43:21] <prezident> teach me if you know better at all
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[16:43:32] <prezident> or be a bitch your decision
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[16:47:09] <zinid> and he disappeared (c)
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[16:53:56] <Dominik Paulus> zinid, [x] cleaned up the config. again, thanks a lot for your help! :-)
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[16:54:13] <zinid> Dominik Paulus, you're welcome!
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[20:55:30] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> mod_schnickschnack
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[21:01:44] <mightyBroccoli> > mod_bratwurst
Translates all sentences badly to german.
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[21:06:00] <zinid> That's the point 😁
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[21:09:18] <zinid> Oh, finally this legball crap is over for Russia
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[21:10:26] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> zinid: lick my balls mod?
[21:10:41] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Russia is out?
[21:10:56] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Fuck u Russia ,😂
[21:11:06] <zinid> Yeah, Russia goes home... Oops
[21:11:49] <zinid> Those drunk screaming fans were freaking me out
[21:12:28] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> zinid: it's not soccer but money nowadays
[21:13:34] <zinid> Well, the sports has been degraded to the show watched by drunk fatso's, that's beyond me
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[21:14:46] ThUnD3r|Gr33n® agrees 💯
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[21:58:05] <fp> And when the people are busy with soccer, they won't question political decisions.
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[22:15:37] <mightyBroccoli> fp, thats mostly why governments can act like the act atm. political decisions in favour of some on the expense of all others.
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