Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[07:34:54] <mystx> Hey guys im having trouble with mod_http_upload. When I browse to https://mydomain.com:5443/upload it says "Not found"
[07:35:11] <mystx> and when I use curl to try to upload a file it returns the same thing... Any ideas?
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[07:51:30] <Licaon_Kter> mystx: What does a XMPP client say? What errors do you see in ejabberd.log?
[07:51:54] <mystx> No errors in log. uploads succeed for xmpp clients
[07:52:29] <mystx> Do i need to log in using curl some how/
[07:52:37] <Licaon_Kter> mystx: and downloads via XMPP client?
[07:53:40] <mystx> yep works fine
[07:54:44] <Licaon_Kter> mystx: great then.
So a XMPP server works great with actual XMPP clients, as expected.
What's your issue?
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[07:56:17] <mystx> I'd like to use the mod_http_upload module to upload another way. Such as curl.
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[08:05:35] <Licaon_Kter> mystx: it doesn't work like that
Look at a link and what it contains in your XMPP client...
[08:06:50] <mystx> k
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[08:27:00] <mystx> Turned debugging on, the message i get is "too few path components"
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[08:27:07] <mystx> in ejabberd log
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[09:06:39] <Licaon_Kter> mystx: exact
[09:06:47] <Licaon_Kter> ly what i've said
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[09:52:22] <aditya_borikar> hey just wanted to know that does gajim allow us to create a new chat room or does it only allow us to join pre existing chat rooms
[09:52:23] <aditya_borikar> ?
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[10:34:22] <zinid> wrong conference to ask
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[11:31:34] <zuglufttier> https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-progress-report-17/
"The Chatty program is being developed by Purism, using a libpurple backend, and will contain E2EE of XMPP messages via OMEMO from day 1"
[11:31:45] <zuglufttier> Another xmpp client on the way...
[11:32:35] <Holger> Oh, have they given up on Matrix?
[11:33:06] <zuglufttier> No.
[11:33:14] <zuglufttier> Matrix will be supported as well.
[11:33:46] <zuglufttier> "The messages technology will be split into two distinct applications. One application will be used for the purpose of private 1 to 1 and small group chats (Chatty) and the other application will be used for the purpose of crowded IRC like discussions (Fractal)."
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[11:34:42] <Holger> Ah, makes some sense.
[11:34:49] <zuglufttier> The apps will support SMS, Matrix and XMPP, I think.
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[11:35:09] <Holger> Both apps do all of those?
[11:35:12] <zuglufttier> I'm just happy that there will be XMPP support.
[11:35:14] <zuglufttier> Not sure.
[11:35:50] <Holger> I was assuming Matrix for public/team chat, XMPP for 1:1 and maybe private groups.
[11:35:58] <Holger> zuglufttier: Yup, that's nice.
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[11:37:33] <zuglufttier> Ah, there it is: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Fractal
[11:37:41] <zuglufttier> So, that will be a Matrix client.
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[11:47:44] <ta> But libpurple for XMPP? Not the best choice, is it?
[11:47:52] <Alacer> Guys any way to have sslh working without recompiling the whole nginx for stream preread module or any alternative to sslh. thx
[11:48:39] <zuglufttier> libpurple is ugly but I guess that the Gnome people have some experience with it.
[11:48:58] <zuglufttier> Pidgin used to be the default messenger in Gnome, didn't it?
[11:49:10] <ta> zuglufttier: yeah, empathy later
[11:50:06] <zuglufttier> So it does make sense to use that if you have people with some knowledge.
[11:51:04] <zuglufttier> But gajim would have been a sane choice. Because it already works and just needs some polishing.
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[11:53:46] <Holger> GNOME then went for Telepathy, also dead by now though.
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[11:54:37] <zuglufttier> Let's see where this is going.
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[12:11:20] <ta> Gajim on librem 5?
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[13:32:34] <zinid> Holger:
> GNOME then went for Telepathy, also dead by now though.
That's what happens when you ignore opinion of XMPP community
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[13:32:46] <zinid> Same will happen to librem5
[13:33:17] <zinid> "we know better" attitude
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[13:53:23] <Licaon_Kter> But they don't know better for Matrix?šŸ™„
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[13:56:27] <zuglufttier> Well i
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[13:56:54] <zuglufttier> Well it is linux after all, so the xmpp community can provide a better alternative easily ;)
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[14:55:00] <404> In the Matrix, each user at least once went through a web client. Do these guys still say privacy? e2e matrix is ​​a fake. Fake federation. Fake e2e.
[14:55:52] <zinid> 404 probably hates Matrix the most of us 😁
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[15:29:14] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: experience matters šŸ¤”
[15:29:44] <zinid> not always, I don't need to eat shit to say it's shit ;)
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[16:15:26] <404> Matrix developers are presented by experts, but they use bad technologies. They want full encryption, but forget that web clients create encryption leaks. They say that XMPP shit, but their servers are overloaded because of wrong decisions.
The matrix has a modern client for servers. They have a lot of money. They use the availability of money to create the illusion of innovation. XMPP survives without money. If there were clients in XMPP, with 10 full-time developers, XMPP would bury the matrix.
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[16:21:41] <404> They even have fake visitor in conferences. 10,000 people, create 1 message per hour.
The developers state with pride about 2700 online users per day in 2017. At this time on one xmpp.jp 30 000 online.
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[16:29:33] <404> If they had written a client for XMPP, they would have done a cool and useful job.They chose to offend XMPP as an outdated format, but at the same time they have terrible logical errors in the server part and in the protocol Matrix.
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[17:16:47] <zinid> Yes, yes, we got it 😁
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[17:17:54] <4223> 404: šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
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[17:20:24] <mightyBroccoli> > I don't need to eat shit to say it's shit ;)
I want that framed šŸ˜‚
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[18:43:20] <ChaosKid42> http://www.keepcalmandcarryon.com/buy-keep-calm-variations-and-memes/?shortcode=dCXWiyBCn
[18:44:36] <ChaosKid42> https://xmpp.scholzbande.de/upload/a5a807eb07367761a4e5eb9f2d6f2018ade22d98/AIGKOWr3LECqC3ixxGGTaMxySQNzCmTgWrVmZodU/dCXWiyBCn.jpeg
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[19:44:47] <zinid> 😮
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