Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[14:11:21] <tyler> 2018-08-28 10:09:58.271 [error] <0.16330.3>@mod_mam_mnesia:store:128 MAM archives too large, won't store message for user@domain
[14:11:26] <tyler> Why would these fill up...
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[14:14:25] <Holger> There's a 2 GB limit when using Mnesia.  For MAM, SQL should be used.
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[14:56:23] <zinid> Mnesia FTW!
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[15:02:38] <edhelas> is it wise to propose Mnesia as the default database for ejabberd ?
[15:03:00] <edhelas> what are the advantages of Mnesia in this case?
[15:03:40] <daniel> Easier to setup presumably?
[15:04:30] <edhelas> well if someone is deploying/configuring an ejabberd instance, doing SQL config along the way is not much more thing to do
[15:04:45] <dos> yeah, it doesn't require any configuration, but otoh there's SQLite
[15:04:56] <edhelas> maybe SQLite ? (half serious there, I don't know if it supports everything the ejabberd needs)
[15:05:04] <edhelas> *that
[15:05:16] <dos> I'm using it, so seems it does
[15:07:47] <daniel> edhelas: you are overestimating the average ejabberd admin
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[15:08:29] <edhelas> daniel maybe a good package can also take care to deploy a mysql/postgresql/sqlite instance without much efforts
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[15:51:42] <zinid> edhelas, I'm going replace mnesia with sqlite by default
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[15:52:24] <zinid> and yeah, what daniel said: average admin nowadays is dumb as fuck
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[15:57:05] <Tyler Schwend> As an almost dumb as fuck admin who just tried to migrate to MySQL...
[15:57:13] <Tyler Schwend> https://xmpp.schwend.us/logout.txt
[15:57:49] <Tyler Schwend> A: Is this worthy of rolling back the migration
B: How would one correct this.
[15:58:11] <zinid> dunno, some SQL magic
[15:58:30] <zinid> I also don't understand why mod_pubsub author decided to use such complex schema
[15:58:42] <zinid> looks like a plan to fail
[15:59:27] <Tyler Schwend> What kind of things would be borked by pubsub?
[15:59:51] <zinid> omemo and movim
[16:00:00] <zinid> ah, and avatars
[16:00:38] <Tyler Schwend> For OMEMO would that be like... you forget your trusted keys... and people have to re-auth?
[16:00:46] <zinid> yes
[16:00:52] <Tyler Schwend> Alright, no big deal there.
[16:00:56] <Tyler Schwend> Small installation.
[16:01:02] <zinid> depends on a client, or maybe messages will be just lost :)
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[16:02:19] <daniel> Omemo clients will just republish their keys
[16:02:20] <Tyler Schwend> Does the DB table list in the web admin show the mnesia stats, or does it show whichever DB is active's stats?
[16:02:50] <daniel> If pubsub works but data was lost that is
[16:03:25] <Tyler Schwend> Not sure how to make sure that things are going to SQL.
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[16:05:57] <zinid> if you set `default_db: sql` then everyting will go into sql, no need to check
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[16:06:12] <Tyler Schwend> Alright... ignoring the errors and opening the flood gates!
[16:06:28] <edhelas> zinid on a more long term, is there a reason to keep Mnesia at all? I mean ejabberd supports several SQL engines and then you can focus on only one DB "system"
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[16:08:45] <tyler> What's the difference between message archiving and message logging on a MUC.
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[16:18:53] <zinid> edhelas, we need it for backward compat, admins will be angry if we ditch mnesia
[16:19:11] <zinid> also, SQL is definitely not one DB system
[16:19:31] <zinid> they are very different
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[16:22:30] <dos> tyler: AFAIK, message archiving = MAM, while message logging = old-school HTML logs that can be served
[16:22:51] <tyler> Thanks
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[20:23:36] <edhelas> ok I got crashes on ejabberd 18.06 (and also older versions but I upgraded to be sure that it wasn't a bug already fixed)
[20:24:36] <edhelas> weird thing I have nothing interesting in error.log
[20:24:46] debalance leaves the room
[20:25:41] <edhelas> I do have a crash.log but not from today
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[20:48:27] <zinid> crash like the ejabberd process has crashed?
[20:48:33] <zinid> or just some crash report in the log?
[20:51:25] <edhelas> ejabberd has crashed yes
[20:51:39] <edhelas> doesn't seems to be memory limit
[20:52:34] fp leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[20:53:36] <zinid> it cannot crash silently
[20:53:44] <zinid> there should be core dump or crash dump
[20:54:07] <zinid> do you see segfaults in /var/log/messages?
[20:54:15] <zinid> grep segfault /var/log/messages
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[21:24:13] <edhelas> nope nothing there
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[21:34:12] <zinid> search for erl_crash.dump then
[21:34:38] <zinid> it should have been created in the directory from where you start ejabberd, typicaly ~ejabberd
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[22:24:05] <edhelas> yes bu no…
[22:24:10] <edhelas> damn I hate that
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