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[05:50:18] <Licaon_Kter> > OTP 21.1 released ...
Except that lager thing, ejabberd was already compatible, right?
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[05:50:37] <zinid> Yes
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[05:51:44] <Licaon_Kter> zinid
> https://gist.github.com/tsaarni/14f31312315b46f06e0f1ecc37146bf3
> someone finally wrote it
What do you mean? Isn't this like...common?
[05:52:04] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I always forget options
[05:52:45] <Licaon_Kter> Regarding OTP I wonder ifmany of the "speed" updates are worthy....an a RPi1 lol!? Id have to build or crosscompile...sorry but I might not bother 😎
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[05:53:32] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, they claim beam files become 30% smaller, so it will be loaded faster
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[05:53:51] <Licaon_Kter> Until it enters the testing repo I mean 😋
[05:53:53] <zinid> but please don't blame then, that's not my words :P
[05:54:13] <Licaon_Kter> Eh...
[05:54:41] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I think the performance will be the same, but on the other hand you will test ejabberd with 21 thoroughly :)
[05:59:12] <Licaon_Kter> While everything works nice, w/ Conversations
I do have a lingering issue with bigger MUCs, not sure if brought by 2.2.9 or ejabberd commits.
Eg. When I open the internet on the phone in the morning, i can see my own small (<10) MUCs as online, and I can see the roster. But on the bigger ones (this, Conversations, ChatSecure, Dino) it just sits there, never (say 1 minute or more) getting the roster...
I can fix it by closing the chat and reopening, it will take a few seconds to appear ...but it works.
zinid daniel thoughts?
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[06:02:38] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, needs debugging
[06:02:49] <zinid> cannot say shit without debug
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[06:03:47] <Licaon_Kter> Yes, I'll see what I can grab next time it happens.
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[06:56:45] <zinid> Holger, so I wrote some docs: https://github.com/processone/pkix/blob/master/README.md
[06:58:06] <Holger> 👍
[06:58:09] <Holger> Nice.
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[07:01:05] <zinid> The distinguish between RSA and EC certificate is implemented, so only left to tame fast_tls somehow...
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[07:02:25] <zinid> I mean that modern feature to pick automatically needed certificate during handshake, which is "implemented in all modern servers except ejabberd" (c)
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[07:51:33] <Holger> Hah.
[07:53:11] <Holger> I think you can just hand over OpenSSL 1.1 a PEM file with multiple certs/keys and it'll offer the right one during the handshake?
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[07:53:28] <Holger> So not sure fast_tls needs to be changed at all?
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[08:04:44] <madmalkav> Morning guys
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[08:05:45] <madmalkav> I'm working on my ejabberd server monitoring now. I see if I stop the database I get an error that doesn't says anything about the database:
2018-09-26 05:24:40.297 [error] <0.376.0> CRASH REPORT Process <0.376.0> with 0 neighbours exited with reason: {init,{error,econnrefused}} in gen_server:init_it/6 line 349
[08:06:02] <madmalkav> And an info that actually mentions the database:
2018-09-26 05:24:40.297 [info] <0.347.0>@ejabberd_sql:connecting:338 pgsql connection failed:
[08:08:04] <madmalkav> but I don't want to leave log in info -I have like two connections per second on port 5280 making logs a PITA to read-
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[08:08:23] <madmalkav> Anything I'm missing or I'm just will have to leave it and info ?
[08:08:31] <madmalkav> s/and/at
[08:09:29] <zinid> fuck, the errors handling in sql drivers is depressing
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[08:10:19] <zinid> > I think you can just hand over OpenSSL 1.1 a PEM file with multiple certs/keys and it'll offer the right one during the handshake?
I don't know, maybe
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[08:13:50] <madmalkav> Anything I'm missing or I'm just will have to leave it at info ?
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[08:21:33] <zinid> madmalkav, what version is this?
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[08:21:41] <zinid> I mean ejabberd version
[08:27:19] <madmalkav> 18.06
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[08:30:18] <Licaon_Kter> madmalkav: that old? 😋
[08:32:06] <zinid> madmalkav, ok, just checked: this error message is already at warning level in 18.09
[08:32:17] <madmalkav> Thanks and sorry then
[08:32:23] <zinid> it is indeed at info level in 18.06
[08:32:24] <madmalkav> Wait, 18.09 released already?
[08:32:30] <zinid> no, but tagged
[08:32:33] <madmalkav> Ok
[08:32:41] <zinid> blogpost is lagging, as usual
[08:32:54] <madmalkav> Will move test server to 18.09 ASAP
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[09:05:57] <Holger> Hah, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/2618 ... I pushed the commit by accident after submitting the PR.  Review is overrated.
[09:07:20] <zinid> Holger, hehe, I thought you finally started to merge your PRs yourself... and that was just by mistake
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[09:17:14] <Licaon_Kter> _Fasttrack PR approval_
[09:17:54] <madmalkav> Should I take the chance I will install 18.09 on test environment to try it with erlang 21.1 too ?
[09:18:01] <madmalkav> currently using 20.3.6
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[09:35:00] <daniel> Can someone help me out with a test account on an ejabberd server that has tls 1.3 - I did my tests with prosody and thought it was enough but now there are some hints that it might not work with ejabberd
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[09:41:44] <mightyBroccoli> I did experienced this issue with my server. my nginx is working with tls1.3, ejabberd on the other hand does not.
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[09:42:51] <Holger> mightyBroccoli: That's to be expected with ejabberd 18.06 and older.
[09:43:40] <mightyBroccoli> Holger, ahh ok, thank you :)
[09:44:15] <Holger> 18.09 has some fixes for v1.3, but I didn't test myself.  (And right now we have no electricity at home which means my test server is down.)
[09:45:43] <daniel> Holger: my observation is that ejabberd 18.06 breaks if the clients attempts tls 1.3 (which I guess is advertised because the library supports is). Is that know behavior?
[09:49:04] <Holger> daniel: Yes I think it's expected that you'll run into a bogus "client renegotiations forbidden" error.
[09:50:43] <Holger> Only happens if the server is using OpenSSL 1.1.1 right?
[09:50:57] <Holger> (prefiks?)
[09:51:14] <mightyBroccoli> daniel: by break you mean break into pieces and start burning or just a warning? I did not notice any problems with the tsl1. 3 conv version.
[09:51:18] <prefiks> yes
[09:51:30] <prefiks> newer version of fast_tls fixes it
[09:52:12] <daniel> By break I mean not start the stream after I starttls or direct tls
[09:52:29] <daniel> But I'm looking at a black box (draugr.de)
[09:53:32] <Holger> Yeah that's probably the known issue.  draugr.de should downgrade OpenSSL or upgrade ejabberd (or at least fast_tls).
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[09:55:52] <daniel> yeah i’m afraid that if i ship Conversations 2.3.0 i’ll be mass triggering this bug everywhere
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[09:57:20] <mightyBroccoli> I do run the conv beta and have no problem at all. No warning/ error nothing.
[09:58:12] <prefiks> this is only happens for tls1.3 connections, so both client and server need to use tls library that support it
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[10:00:05] <Holger> daniel: I would assume the fraction of servers running OpenSSL 1.1.1 will remain quite small for a while.  But yes some will run into it and that will be annoying of course.
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[10:01:22] <Holger> Hopefully those that do run bleeding edge OpenSSL will also run bleeding edge ejabberd ...
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[10:31:55] <Neustradamus> Have you update the conf file for tls13 ?
[10:32:01] <Neustradamus> Have you updated the conf file for tls13 ?
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[10:33:40] <Neustradamus> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2004
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[11:12:12] <Holger> Neustradamus: How would you update it?
[11:13:01] <Holger> I agree it should go in the docs, but I don't think disabling v1.2 or v1.3 should be suggested in the sample config file.
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[11:15:02] <Holger> If you suggest knobs, some users press them. And that's a bad idea except maybe in closed environments where admins know what they're doing.
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[11:26:51] <Licaon_Kter> cromain: when you update the site for 18.09 do remove Archipel Project from notable mentions or smth, the site is down and it seems abandoned for years already
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[11:47:41] <cromain> ok
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[12:10:07] <Licaon_Kter> edhelas: wat? https://mobile.twitter.com/edhelas/status/1042461849076342784
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[12:14:51] <edhelas> Licaon_Kter ?
[12:15:01] <Licaon_Kter> What did you do?
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[12:15:54] <edhelas> adding a unique restriction in the DB :p
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[12:33:46] <adrien> Well seen ! I'll update later and check my munin graphs :D
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[12:37:40] <Holger> Grr I start hating lager.
[12:37:55] <Holger> [warning]  lager_file_backend dropped 8 messages in the last second that exceeded the limit of 500 messages/sec
[12:38:23] <edhelas> Holger is not drinking beer anymore 😱
[12:38:57] <Holger> zinid: ^ I now get those every second, sometimes twice a second.  The number of dropped messages is always small, and the number of actual log messages is usually way below 500.
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[12:40:13] <Holger> edhelas, yeah, first README sentence: "Lager (as in the beer) is a logging framework for Erlang."
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[12:42:15] <SouL> not as in warehouse
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[13:33:14] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> .version emevth.no-ip.biz
[13:33:31] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> !version
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[14:04:27] <Holger> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
[14:04:30] <Servant> Holger: emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 18.06.1 on unix/linux 3.4.113
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[14:07:12] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Compiled src/gen_mod.erl                                                                                                                                      
src/mod_muc_room.erl:4103: record muc_subscription undefined                                                                                                  
src/mod_muc_room.erl:4102: Warning: variable 'J' is unused                                                                                                    
src/mod_muc_room.erl:4102: Warning: variable 'Nodes' is unused                                                                                                
Compiling src/mod_muc_room.erl failed:                                                                                                                        
ERROR: compile failed while processing /home/xmpp/src/ejabberd: rebar_abort                                                                                  
Makefile:112: recipe for target 'src' failed                                                                                                                  
make: *** [src] Error 1
[14:07:29] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Holger hmm... make clean?
[14:07:32] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> make distclean ?
[14:08:33] <Holger> Ja oder git clean -ffdx
[14:09:06] <Holger> Oder erst "make update" zum Aktualisieren der Dependencies. Alle Wege nach Rom.
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[14:14:12] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> oder erstmal kippe`?
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[14:18:31] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> it's "running" on the orangepi ... :)
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[14:34:06] <Licaon_Kter> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: I do `git pull && make update && ./autogen.sh && ./configure ....` on RPi1
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[14:38:37] <zinid> Holger: seems like lager becoming unmaintainable after Basho is gone, thus the quality has degraded
[14:39:05] <zinid> Holger: set to warning, no?
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[14:48:53] <madmalkav> No way to generate an acl based on LDAP criteria, like a value in the user entry or membership of a group, right?
[14:49:27] <zinid> no
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[15:36:27] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> why do u avoid ejabberd from starting up due to wrong config parameters? instead of ignoring them...
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[15:53:17] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Because we assume admins have a reason to configure things, and want to notice if it doesn't work.
[15:53:39] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Most software does it that way, ejabberd just didn't in the past because it wasn't trivial to implement.
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[15:57:00] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: Assume you set something like "starttls_required: true" and it doesn't work. Admins will prefer ejabberd to abort starting up over ejabberd accepting cleartext being transferred in the clear.
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[16:43:34] <zinid> ThUnD3r|Gr33n, "fail early", ever heard of it?
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[16:44:44] <zinid> the only objection to this is that it's not always a fail, but ejabberd has not built-in AI to know that
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[17:44:40] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I see I see guzs :)
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[20:00:36] <dos> hmm
[20:00:39] <dos> 2018-07-17 22:55:02.301 [error] <0.27975.1>@ejabberd_hooks:safe_apply:383 Hook user_receive_packet crashed when running mod_carboncopy:user_receive_packet/1:
** Reason = {error,undef,[{xep0045,do_get_name,[],[{muc_user,undefined,undefined,[],[],[],undefined}]},{xmpp,has_subtag,[{file,"src/xmpp.erl"},{line,469}],2},{mod_carboncopy,check_and_forward,[{file,"src/mod_carboncopy.erl"},{line,167}],4},{mod_carboncopy,user_receive_packet,[{file,"src/mod_carboncopy.erl"},{line,154}],1},{ejabberd_hooks,safe_apply,[{file,"src/ejabberd_hooks.erl"},{line,380}],4},{ejabberd_hooks,run_fold1,[{file,"src/ejabberd_hooks.erl"},{line,364}],4},{ejabberd_c2s,process_info,[{file,"src/ejabberd_c2s.erl"},{line,230}],2},{ejabberd_hooks,safe_apply,[{file,"src/ejabberd_hooks.erl"},{line,380}],4}]}
[20:01:35] <dos> just found something like that in the log, maybe you'll be interested :D
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[20:02:19] <dos> 18.06-1 debian
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[20:34:07] <adrien> !version chat.swisslinux.org
[20:34:10] <Servant> adrien: There was an error requesting chat.swisslinux.org's version doesn't support version requests
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[20:34:41] <adrien> !version swisslinux.org
[20:34:43] <Servant> adrien: There was an error requesting swisslinux.org's version doesn't support version requests (No module is handling this query)
[20:34:52] <adrien> :(
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[20:39:52] <zinid> dos, installation error
[20:40:06] <zinid> dos, xmpp lib and ejabberd versions mismatch
[20:40:34] <dos> so that would be debian packaging bug then
[20:40:45] <zinid> debalance, ?
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[20:45:49] <mightyBroccoli> Maybe one package is not installed from backports? Or is installed from a different repo.
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[20:47:48] <dos> well, it's a log from a few days ago and I've seen that for instance erlang got updated today, so that might already be out of date
[20:48:13] <dos> however, I'm pretty sure that it's a pure sid installation
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