Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, November 5, 2018< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[14:33:10] <jh> hi, when updating from 18.06 to 18.09 i get an error that the clib_2.28 would be missing i use current raspbian and debian. can i install this or is it known if it is included in the updates?
[14:34:16] <Licaon_Kter> Not sure what that is. How do you update?
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[14:35:30] <jh> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/
[14:35:51] <Holger> jh: 'clib', are you sure?  Could you post the exact error message?
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[14:37:05] <jh> requires glibc 2.17 or newer
[14:37:51] <jh> i have unfortunately deleted the 2nd node, i can't reproduce it quickly now
[14:38:39] <jh> it may also have been glibc_2.28
[14:39:35] <jh> requested by epm, I mean, was included
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[14:41:38] <Holger> Sounds like you're trying to run some binary that was built against a newer glibc on the system with the older.
[14:41:49] <Holger> Or there's mess with multiple glibc versions on a single system ...
[14:44:26] <jh> Okay, thanks. I'll keep checking.
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[14:47:51] <Holger> Hmm I wonder why I never run into #2663 ...
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[14:53:29] <zinid> Holger, because I think this relates to rare race conditions
[14:54:08] <Holger> My server is fasta.
[14:54:16] <Holger> Or slowa.
[14:54:33] <zinid> serva
[14:54:39] <edhelas> mine is pasta and powa
[14:54:57] <Holger> I think there's a similar race with mod_ping I *do* run into.
[14:55:25] <Holger> Was going to look (years ago).
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[15:33:57] <rom1dep> Holger: did you get the yesterday's backlog about my messages being duplicated? Any clue what happened? I had a very bad network (data), the session resumption bug that was triggered could be from gajim as well, logs were showing a large count mismatch
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[15:34:56] <Holger> Client bug of course!
[15:34:57] <Holger> :-)
[15:35:14] <Holger> No idea, counting bugs are a PITA to track down.  Unless you can reproduce it easily.
[15:35:51] <Holger> I don't see how this would be related to biboumi though (I think you mentioned that?) ...
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[15:37:23] <Holger> lovetox played around with the counting recently because there was an off-by-one error, maybe he improved something for the worse.
[15:37:46] <rom1dep> Yeah, biboumi is unrelated, I first had dupes sent in IRC rooms, but then in normal MUCs as well
[15:38:14] <rom1dep> I have a month old branch of gajim
[15:38:41] <rom1dep> Maybe I should update and forget about messagewindow for a while of that fixes the miscount
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[15:39:31] <rom1dep> That being said, I upgraded ejabberd but not gajim in that timeframe, so it's suspicious
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[15:41:45] <Holger> If you don't have much traffic you could just enable debug logging until you run into it next time.
[15:42:04] <Holger> Then the traffic can be grepped out of the logs, we can count the stanzas and check who's wrong.
[15:42:15] <Holger> I mean prove that Gajim is wrong :-)
[15:42:36] <Holger> Hopefully you run into it before the count is ... large.
[15:46:47] <Holger> rom1dep: I discussed the counting thing with lovetox on Oct 3rd.
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[15:47:33] <Holger> rom1dep: There's commits on Oct 3rd and 5th:
https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/commits/master
https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commits/master
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[15:51:21] <daniel> It's terrifying how hard counting is
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[15:52:54] <zuglufttier> I have duplicated messages as well in Gajim. I'm using master.
[15:53:04] <Holger> zuglufttier: New problem?
[15:53:11] <zuglufttier> Just use OMEMO, it will filter out everything :D
[15:53:13] <Holger> zuglufttier: What ejabberd version?
[15:53:24] <zuglufttier> Holger, I think so. Not 100% sure.
[15:53:26] <zuglufttier> 18.09
[15:54:36] <zinid> I detected the bug in my "client" implementation easily by running massive parallel connections
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[16:04:10] <Holger> zuglufttier: Your code is newer than Oct 5?
[16:04:24] <Holger> Also the nbxmpp code?
[16:04:47] <zuglufttier> I'll update my clients and see if this ever appears again.
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[16:09:36] <Licaon_Kter> Wtf? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2660#issuecomment-435925515
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[16:58:16] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: IT these days, why?
[16:59:57] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: why oh why :) :)
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[17:01:09] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: seems like there is nothing on "configure gajim with ejabberd" on stack overflow, so s/he got stuck
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[17:21:03] <zinid> daniel, why didn't you re-apply for the Council this time? a lot of people are curious :)
[17:21:42] <daniel> zinid: lol why are people curious about that?
[17:22:18] <daniel> It's just very time consuming. Maybe I'll apply again next year.
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[17:22:34] <daniel> I have nothing against the council and I like the work
[17:22:42] <zinid> daniel, ah, ok
[17:22:44] <daniel> But I need to take a break for a year
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[17:24:12] <Licaon_Kter> "ZINID FOR COUNCIL 2018"
YOU
CAN
DO
IT
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[17:25:08] <zinid> not again, plz :(
[17:25:23] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, why don't you apply?
[17:26:05] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I can't write stanzas by heart
I have low
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.
iq
:))
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[17:26:39] <zinid> muh, this is not required at all
[17:26:48] <zinid> you just need to say +1 or -1
[17:27:02] <Licaon_Kter> Also, it appears one needs to be familiar with a lot of Shakespear... :P
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[17:28:14] <zinid> ah, yes
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[17:47:24] <\(*.*)/> Good evening, folks,
little question from my side:
Does ejabberd 18.09 have persistent PEP automatically or do I have to activate it somehow?
I have to ask this because there are problems with some of my chat-partners, when they change their phone or do a new install of their xmpp-client. Omemo-Fingerprints are not exchanged until both chatpartners actively send a message to each other. Being online is not enough to exchange the new fingerprints.
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[17:55:58] <Licaon_Kter> \(*.*)/: did you setup as `whitelist` or `open` ?
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[18:01:14] <\(*.*)/> Licaon_Kter: I commented out these few lines with "eu.siacs.conversations...." and "access_model"
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[18:41:36] <rom1dep> Holger: I looked it up, I seem to have all those 3 changes checked out (the two in nbmpp and the one about sm timeout in gajim)
[18:41:59] <rom1dep> let's see how it I can repro, then I will open the loglevel floodgates
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[18:42:15] <rom1dep> let's see if I can repro, then I will open the loglevel floodgates
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[20:18:46] <Licaon_Kter> \(*.*)/: try with open
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[20:45:15] <4223> !version fsfe.org
[20:45:18] <Servant> 4223: fsfe.org is running Prosody version 0.10.2 on Linux
[20:45:40] <mightyBroccoli> > zinid: I can't write stanzas by heart
> I have low
> .
> .
> .
> iq
> :))
I have to clean my desk now. I couldn't help but laugh.
[20:45:58] <4223> !version talk36.net
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[20:46:13] <mightyBroccoli> Laughing and eating is really dangerous.
[20:46:27] <zinid> hope you'll be fine
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[20:49:47] <4223> Servant: спаси́бо
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[20:57:21] <Licaon_Kter> 4223: don't thank the bot, it will grow AI and kill us all
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[20:57:39] <4223> 👍
[20:57:42] <4223> 😇
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[21:08:09] <Holger> zinid: Shouldn't ejabberd_logger restart lager on reload_config?
[21:08:34] <Holger> AFAICS logging config changes aren't applied right now.
[21:08:57] <zinid> Holger, not applied? that's a bug of course
[21:09:36] <Holger> ejabberd_logger doesn't hook into `config_reloaded`.
[21:10:07] <zinid> yeah, sounds like a bug
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[21:11:39] <zinid> probably I missed that stuff
[21:12:09] <Holger> Ah loglevel changes are applied directly from ejabberd_config.  But other settings (e.g. log_rate_limit) aren't.
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[21:14:00] <zinid> from what I remember there is some magic to change other parameters of lager due to retarded API
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[21:15:14] <Holger> Hmm k I'll look closer.  I just stumbled over `log_rate_limit` changes not being applied.
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