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[05:02:15] <zinid> so, HN decided it's a good idea to fine Facebook for bugs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18681772
[05:02:23] <zinid> funny thread
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[07:15:07] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yeah...there's no responsability in software development
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[07:36:43] <rom1dep> zinid: why should civil engineers be accountable for when a bridge collapses but not software developers for, in fact, anything? If immaterial means worthless then we have a problem with the valuation of the tech sector also.
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[08:34:51] <zinid> rom1dep, not sure I have understood your deep thought :)
[08:35:06] <zinid> probably because my engrish sucks :D
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[08:40:36] <zinid> I somewhat agree that we should stop mumbling "bugs are normal", but this is irrelevant to those people wanting to punish facebook
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[09:49:44] <rom1dep> zinid: just sayin' that if software works were held by the same standards as everything else (at least in terms of reliability, security and fault tolerance), the attitude towards software design would be much different and probably for the better.
In that specific example, if the answer is "who cares, it's just data, it's worthless and immaterial", then there is a dissonance with the billions those companies generate out of it
[09:53:29] <rom1dep> in other words, there is a "cost" for the lives taken and damage caused by a falling bridge, and a "process" to backtrack how much risk was taken during the design and who let it happen. Software seems to lack both.
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