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zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[01:57:37] <Neustradamus> Holger, zinid: can you see for last certfile? https://github.com/processone/docs.ejabberd.im/issues/56#issuecomment-447699676
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[06:35:59] <zinid> marek: --disable-elixir
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[06:41:15] <zinid> Neustradamus, wut?
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[08:29:03] <ave> hey all, I recently updated this instance to 18.12 from 18.09, and moved from mnesia to pgsql. We've been having 2 issues ever since: messages sent only seem to go to a single resource, and compliance.conversations.im reports that our omemo is broken (even though it's not)
[08:29:47] <ave> weirdly, the old, local compliancetester jar seems to report that our omemo is just fine, and our config has everything set properly for omemo
[08:29:52] <Licaon_Kter> ave: carbony yes, fixed in 18.12.1 out soon™
[08:30:05] <Licaon_Kter> *carbons
[08:30:15] <Licaon_Kter> ave: how did you update?
[08:30:44] <ave> followed regular update instructions
[08:31:27] <ave> shut down ejabberd node, backed up /opt/ejabberd, dpkg -i'd the new 18.12, restored config file
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[08:46:25] <Licaon_Kter> ave: so via repo packages, you're going to need to wait he new version to be out then...
[08:46:31] <Licaon_Kter> Or go back to 18.09
[08:46:41] <ave> is there an ETA?
[08:47:11] <ave> also, I have compress_xml: true, so sadly I can't go back to 18.09
[08:48:12] <Licaon_Kter> ave: there is a rel-18.12.1 branch but not tagged release & after that packaging delay, no, not sure when
[08:48:39] <ave> welp, time to take a shot at compiling it then
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[09:28:23] <ave> https://awo.oooooooooooooo.ooo/i/hitxamb8.png just ran the new CLI tool, this is the error I get. Is this related to 18.12, or pgsql?
[09:29:28] <ave> (we do get https://pastebin.com/raw/zBkwUx9S on logs, so I think it may be pgsql related, though I'm not sure how to fix it)
[09:29:36] <ave> (it's already set to serial so we shouldn't have this error)
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[09:37:52] <Holger> ave: conversations.im is running 18.12.something and https://compliance.conversations.im/server/conversations.im/ is happy.  Maybe just a config issue?
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[09:43:56] <ave> Here's a wild guess that I'll need to investigate: As we migrated from mnesia, SERIAL might not be functioning properly. I'll try to dig in deeper.
[09:44:11] <ave> Holger: is conv im's config public?
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[10:24:03] <Holger> ave: Nope. Could you show your `mod_pubsub` section? And do you have `mod_client_state` enabled?
[10:25:18] <ave> mod_client_state is enabled
[10:26:43] <ave> https://gitlab.com/lavatech/a3.pm/blob/master/ejabberd.yml#L839-854
[10:27:05] <Holger> Weirdo. There's no DB backend, and there's no config option that could bork it.
[10:27:25] <ave> there is db backend: https://gitlab.com/lavatech/a3.pm/blob/master/ejabberd.yml#L435
[10:28:00] <Holger> Yeah looks fine to me.
[10:29:32] <ave> I'll investigate the serial thing, as I feel like that's the culprit here. Would it be safe to clear the pubsub_node table in DB then restart the server? If I'm not wrong, clients should re-send the information to be put in pubsub_node on the next login.
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[10:30:22] <edhelas> Holger I had a user yesterday that was publishing a very large blog post to it's pubsub node
[10:30:34] <edhelas> ejabberd took a good 30sec to react when parsing the XML
[10:30:42] <edhelas> before replying "stanza too big"
[10:31:37] <Holger> ave: Yes that's usually safe. If you don't use PubSub for things like Movim.
[10:31:54] <Holger> edhelas: Wow. Reproducible?
[10:32:00] <ave> We don't use movim, so it should be fine.
[10:32:25] <edhelas> well basically generate a big stanza to publish an item to a pubsub node
[10:32:37] <edhelas> I can give you the stanza tonight
[10:33:05] <Holger> Question was wether it happened once or multiple times 🙂
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[10:33:42] <edhelas> I was able to reproduce it each time
[10:33:46] <Holger> Do you have the exact error?
[10:34:04] <edhelas> <error code='406' type='modify'> <payload-too-big xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#errors'/> <not-acceptable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/; </error>
[10:34:39] <ave> that solved the omemo problem
[10:36:01] <ave> I'll just compile 18.12.1, which should hopefully solve the carbon problem
[10:36:28] <Holger> edhelas: Yeah so that's the PubSub-specific error. There's also a generic stanza-too-large if you hit `max_stanza_size`. As a workaround you could reduce that to match the PubSub size limit. Then the stanza won't reach `mod_pubsub`.
[10:36:31] edhelas is waiting for the 18.12.1 deb
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[10:37:11] <edhelas> the issue is more the long delay before the error response
[10:37:16] <Holger> edhelas: If that fixes the issue, it would of course be nice if you could report that on GitHub.
[10:37:29] <edhelas> I'll :)
[10:38:02] <Holger> edhelas: Understood. I would be interested whether the long delay is gone if you set `max_stanza_size` appropriately.
[10:38:54] <Holger> The PubSub limit is currently hard-coded to 60000 bytes (meh).
[10:40:19] <edhelas> why not making them one variable ?
[10:40:48] <edhelas> well the Markdown text was already 51kb, so the XML is bigger for sure
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[12:12:59] <Holger> edhelas:
> why not making them one variable ?
You mean dropping the PubSub-specific limit?  Yeah, not sure we need it.
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[12:49:27] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> !version emevth.no-ip.boz
[12:49:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
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[12:50:20] <Holger> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
[12:50:22] <Servant> Holger: emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 18.12.16 on unix/linux 3.4.113
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[14:08:42] <edhelas> Holger I would be fine with one config variable yes :)
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[14:36:31] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Holger: user can't call the bot?
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[14:41:01] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Aaaa
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[16:41:55] <Steven Roose> In the extreme case of every user being on a separate server, would XMPP still work? With work I mean provide a decent service and not have significantly different system requirements, ...
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[16:42:29] <Link Mauve> Yes?
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[16:43:12] <Link Mauve> This is pretty much what is happening on my server, I have a significant amount of contacts on their own server.
[16:44:12] <Steven Roose> I can imagine the amount of peer federated connections would be very high. Say a MUC server like Conversation's with ~300 users would get harder to run.
[16:45:18] <Steven Roose> I'd be interested to know how many different domains there are among Conversations's MUC members.
[16:45:30] <Link Mauve> On my personal server I currently have 180 + 185 s2s connections established (and 343 contacts and a few MUCs), and on another server I have 2.5k total, both are working just fine.
[16:46:05] <Steven Roose> 180+185?
[16:46:25] <Steven Roose> Cool.
[16:46:34] <Link Mauve> Outgoing and incoming.
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[16:46:56] <Link Mauve> You could divide that by two by using bidi.
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[17:38:55] <404> Steven Roose,  A server with a large number of s2s consumes more resources, but it works fine.
[17:39:28] <Steven Roose> 404: yeah so I was more or less wondering what would be the limit f.e. for running in a Raspberry Pi
[17:39:41] <Steven Roose> Also how much does it increase bandwidth usage?
[17:41:47] <404> I think that Rasberry PI will cope with loads if there is no flood attack on it.
[17:42:59] <Licaon_Kter> Steven Roose: RPi 1/2/3 with 100Mbps or 3+ with 300?
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[17:49:43] <zinid> Steven Roose, bandwidth depends on the usage, but typically s2s connection consumes as much memory as c2s (but you should multiply that by 2: outbound s2s + inbound s2s)
[17:50:18] <zinid> Steven Roose, in benchmarks it's around 1Gb for 10k connections (with TLS enabled)
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[18:43:36] <Steven Roose> Hmm, thanks for the numbers. Would be interesting to see 🙂
[18:43:48] <Steven Roose> I really hope btw that the Librem 5 will get a good XMPP client next to it's Matrix client. Very excited about the project 🙂
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[20:31:37] <focus121> I noticed that the first few lines in my log show
> [error] <0.405.0>@ejabberd_sql:log:968 p1_mysql_conn: Received close signal, exiting.
But the it loads the config and starts/works normal. I don't know why I get this lines.
[20:32:02] <focus121> First few lines when I start ejabberd
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[21:20:12] <ave> Hey again. Could I get some help with compiling ejabberd 18.12.1?
[21:20:39] <ave> actually uh, I forgot to check deps before I started compilation. just a sec.
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[21:24:52] <zinid> make distclean && ./autogen.sh && ./configure --disable-elixir
[21:25:06] <zinid> make
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[21:41:46] <ave> can I safely ignore WARN:  Missing plugins: [rebar3_hex]?
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[21:42:36] <Holger> Yes.
[21:42:48] <ave> Thanks a ton.
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[22:19:24] <ave> Aah, finally on ejabberd 18.12.15. Thanks for the help everyone, it's very, very appreciated!
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[22:26:15] <zinid> 👍
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[22:33:16] <marek> ave: 👍
[22:33:40] <marek> !version walczak.io
[22:34:02] <Servant> marek: walczak.io is running ejabberd version 0.0
[22:34:25] <marek> well, wow 😃
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