ejabberd - Wednesday, December 19, 2018

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zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im

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[09:45:07] <madmalkav> Ummm , getting random errors for users that get failed c2s auth even when they have the password saved, and it starts working again after some time. Auth against ldap, I think it is ldap problem but not aure how to debug it
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[09:51:49] <madmalkav> auth_use_cache is set to false , so we can skip cache issues I think
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[09:59:45] <Steven Roose> > I can't send messages here because the konuro.net XMPP server is configured to only send out keys to people who are subscribed to your presence
If this is the case, how do I configure ejabberd to send out keys to everyone?
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[10:07:47] <Holger> What keys?
[10:07:50] <Holger> OMEMO?
[10:08:54] <jc> yes, it was me how wrote that to Steven Roose
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[10:09:02] <jc> I'm adding OMEMO MUC support to Converse...
[10:09:06] <Holger> If so:
mod_pubsub:
  force_node_config:
    access_model: open # Make OMEMO keys available to non-contacts.
  # [...]
(But Conversations would do that automatically.)
[10:09:07] <Holger> Ah.
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[10:09:29] <jc> Holger: how does Conversations do that? With #publish-options?
[10:09:37] <Holger> jc: Yes.
[10:09:46] <jc> That requires the clients of the people I'm trying to chat to, to do that however, so not something I can control
[10:09:52] <jc> I'm adding that to Converse as well
[10:10:22] <Holger> jc: Right.  Just mentioned it in case Steven Roose is using Conversations.  In that case I'd expect the axolotl to have access_model=open already.
[10:10:29] <Holger> *the acolotl nodes
[10:10:53] <Holger> *axolotl, typing easy not.
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[10:13:08] <edhelas> Holger that force_node_config feature is not documented as I saw :) but it's a nice one!
[10:13:57] <Holger> Ah, it's in the sample config file but indeed missing in the docs.
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[10:21:08] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: worried?
https://blade.tencent.com/magellan/index_en.html
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[11:15:17] <Steven Roose> Holger, does that config have effect on other pubsub data?
[11:15:51] <Steven Roose> Seems like it could force any pubsub data to be open to the public, which sounds scary. Isn't there a wayto just force it to nodes somehow identified as OMEMO?
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[11:17:53] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, no, ejabberd is not affected
[11:18:52] <Holger> Steven Roose: Er, yes, my snippet was wrong of course :-)
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[11:19:35] <Holger> Steven Roose:
mod_pubsub:
  # [...]
  force_node_config:
    "eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.*":
      access_model: open
[11:20:00] <Holger> Steven Roose: Just a test whether you pay attention.
[11:20:51] <edhelas> I'm wondering if the Compliance Suit 2019 shoudn't force the XMPP servers to have such configs for the related XEPs
[11:20:58] <edhelas> like Bookmark and other PEP ones
[11:21:16] <Holger> Nah.
[11:21:56] <Holger> That's just workarounds for broken clients.
[11:22:14] <Steven Roose> Holger, :D thanks!
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[11:23:05] <Steven Roose> Holger, one last thing: does that also have effect on existing nodes?
[11:23:11] <Steven Roose> or just new nodes?
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[11:29:21] <Holger> Steven Roose: Just new nodes.
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[12:52:07] <edhelas> zinid Holger what is the difference between mod_offline and mod_mam, they interract with eachothers ?
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[12:53:18] <Holger> edhelas: mod_offline is the old-school offline spool, XMPP had that since forever.  Messages are written there if none of the recipient's clients is online, and are delivered to the first client that reconnects.
[12:53:49] <edhelas> ok, is it deprecated ?
[12:55:10] <Holger> edhelas: So from the client's point of view, they're just like normal live messages (just with a <delay/> tag).  You need to de-dup against messages retrieved from MAM (using the <stanza-id/>).  Or use some XEP-0013 command do ditch the offline spool before sending presence (I think Conversations does that as an optimization).
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[12:55:29] <Holger> edhelas: Well you can disable it if you think the assumption that all your clients support MAM is safe.
[12:56:05] <edhelas> ok :) I'm curious about that optimisation
[12:56:13] <edhelas> thanks for the info !
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[13:25:27] <zinid> offline is another source of performance bottle neck BTW
[13:25:44] <zinid> enable it only when you really need it
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[13:26:19] <zinid> SQL DELETEs are expensive as fuck
[13:27:00] <edhelas> zinid https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example#L201 :o
[13:27:20] <zinid> yes, so?
[13:27:45] <zinid> we don't assume only modern clients will be used
[13:27:51] <edhelas> true
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[15:12:24] <Steven Roose> Does anyone have any experience/idea of the possibility of migrating an ejabberd with SQL SCRAM authentication to LDAP?
[15:15:43] <Holger> You won't be able to migrate the passwords.
[15:16:41] <Holger> I mean in theory you could enforce SASL PLAIN and store the passwords whenever users authenticate, but at least Conversations will refuse to use PLAIN if it did SCRAM before.
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[15:18:32] <zinid> just don't use SCRAM. EVER.
[15:18:39] <Steven Roose> There is no way to somehow force ldap to use the same SCRAM params as ejabberd used to keep the salted passwords identical? Like migrate salt and everything with it?
[15:18:41] <zinid> use SASL EXTERNAL worse case
[15:18:46] <Steven Roose> zinid, alternative?
[15:18:54] <zinid> SASL EXTERNAL
[15:18:54] <flow> isn't there a SCRAM binding for LDAP?
[15:19:10] <Steven Roose> zinid, how does SASL EXTERNAL work?
[15:19:16] <flow> (I assume it is possibly not widely implemented)
[15:19:18] <Holger> Steven Roose, flow: ejabberd's LDAP code doesn't support SCRAM.
[15:19:20] <zinid> Steven Roose, client certificate authentication
[15:19:21] <Steven Roose> zinid, What's your objection to SCRAM? :)
[15:19:36] <zinid> Steven Roose, migration, format incompatibility
[15:19:49] <zinid> DoS attack vector if SASL PLAIN is allowed
[15:20:14] <Steven Roose> > Steven Roose, client certificate authentication
That doesn't help me much..
[15:20:30] <Steven Roose> Is "SASL EXTERNAL" a thing outside of ejabberd? Or just a name ofr a certain authentication internally?
[15:20:51] <zinid> Steven Roose, you just provide a TLS certificate to your client where you sign its JID
[15:20:56] <zinid> even Conversations support this
[15:21:17] <Steven Roose> zinid, that doesn't seem very user-friendly..
[15:21:27] <flow> Holger, I know, but the question is how hard it would be for ejabberd to support RFC 5803 and if it would help with the SCRAM+LDAP situation if ejabberd does
[15:21:42] <zinid> Steven Roose, it depends on how implement it in the clients
[15:22:26] <zinid> ah, Gajim also supports it
[15:22:41] <Steven Roose> So ok I'm getting overloaded with words. What is the current "recommended" way to do authentication?
[15:22:48] <Steven Roose> It can't possibly be plaintext, is it?
[15:23:07] <zinid> Steven Roose, I recommend either PLAIN or EXTERNAL
[15:23:47] <zinid> with SCRAM you will be fucked when cryptowhores will invent next new and shiny incompatible SCRAM-SUPER-1024
[15:24:56] <zinid> regarding LDAP for instance: I'm not even sure you can convert SCRAM data from ejabberd to your @LDAP_SERVER@
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[15:25:52] <zinid> and I as developer will have a lot of PITA: writing converters, implementing this scram shit in ldap drivers and so on
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[17:43:49] <Neustradamus> A whitepapers about SCRAM: https://www.isode.com/whitepapers/scram.html
[17:44:04] <Neustradamus> And https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7677 about SCRAM-SHA-256 / SCRAM-SHA-256-PLUS
[17:46:02] <Neustradamus> It is possible to look for LDAP pulls? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ldap+is%3Aopen
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[19:07:20] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: what's the holdup with 18.12.1? People start to update...
[19:08:59] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, no idea
[19:10:11] <Licaon_Kter> Neustradamus: is there a translation issue? What does _Always possible for 18.12+_ mean?
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[19:23:09] <Neustradamus> Licaon_Kter: to validate now ^^
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[19:28:40] <Licaon_Kter> Neustradamus: you mean if the PR still can be applied?
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[20:04:35] <Neustradamus> Licaon_Kter: yes
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[20:28:58] <ave> ...we just had a downtime because I set the ejabberd user as not superuser on postgresql... is that really a requirement for not making ejabberd die, or am I missing something?
[20:29:35] <ave> (first the connections timed out, then on consequent restarts we didn't have proper roster and all, had to set superuser again to "fix" it)
[20:31:47] <zinid> I don't have ejabberd as superuser on postgresql at all
[20:32:07] <zinid> I mean it's GRANT ALL on ejabberd database of course ;)
[20:32:38] <ave> It's set like that on my end too.
[20:32:55] <zinid> dunno, read pgsql logs maybe
[20:33:54] <zinid> ejabberd doesn't even modify table or database metadata, it performs only inserts/deletes/updates
[20:33:59] <zinid> I don't know how we can help
[20:34:18] <ave> I was just wondering if it was a requirement as there's no docs on docs.ejabberd.im about pgsql
[20:35:06] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/test/README#L14
[20:35:23] <zinid> this is pretty much enough: this is what we use in the test suite on travis
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[20:36:41] <zinid> it's just ACLs in postgresql is black magic
[20:37:17] <zinid> you spend a tons of time and nerves, then you say fuck this and go superuser. Typical scenario :D
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[20:46:10] <ave> I had to nuke ejabberd stuff once before moving stuff, I think i _may_ have forgotten to grant all
[20:47:14] <ave> nop. I did that. weird.
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[23:46:31] <Steven Roose> Neustradamus, you thing it's possible to use a SCRAM version that is compatible with LDAP and potentially importable into LDAP lateron?
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