Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, January 10, 2019< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[06:55:26] <snapet> zinid: yes, I did get a permission denied, that's why I think something else was wrong probably, I got nothing before that. I received an update to ejabberd also yesterday morning also, so it makes it hard to say where the problem lies.
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[10:14:05] <Freyskeyd> hello, does MUCSUB subscriptions can be managed by room admin?
[10:14:53] <prefiks> yes, you can specify jid of other users if you are admin
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[10:17:50] <Freyskeyd> ok
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[10:18:11] <Freyskeyd> but, does this JID need to join/send a first presence to receive message?
[10:20:54] <Freyskeyd> and how to know if a message has been read ? (I was using chatstate to define if a user has read the message send by another one)
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[10:22:13] <prefiks> no user don't need to be a member of a room to be added to mucsub
[10:23:07] <prefiks> when it will be added to subscribers it will start receive mucsub messages
[10:25:58] <Freyskeyd> and what's about chatstate etc?
[10:27:09] <prefiks> they should be routed too
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[10:28:05] <Freyskeyd> no I mean, how can I know, as a room participant, that my message was read by a subscriber
[10:28:24] <Freyskeyd> I was inferring that by using chatstate of other participants
[10:29:38] <prefiks> you still can send messages as subscribers
[10:29:49] <prefiks> you don't need to join room for that
[10:30:07] <Freyskeyd> mmh I'm not clear I think^^
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[10:30:57] <Freyskeyd> as a participant of the room (jid: A) I send a message in the room, the JID B (receive this message as a subscription events) how A can infer that his message was well received by B?
[10:31:21] <prefiks> just like you did before, make B send chatstate to room back
[10:31:39] <Freyskeyd> ok
[10:32:17] <Freyskeyd> or, I can force the user B to join the room to define the message as read
[10:32:35] <prefiks> you don't need to join a room to send message
[10:32:48] <Freyskeyd> it's more a domain logic
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[10:33:14] <prefiks> even without joining it if you send <message type=groupchat to=room@conf...><read ... it will be delivered
[10:33:23] <Freyskeyd> ok
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[10:37:50] <prefiks> also do you really need to know if each user did read message? with that server would need to deliver N^2 chatstate notifications
[10:38:04] <prefiks> it's will get pretty hard for bigger rooms
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[10:48:52] <Freyskeyd> I don't have bigger rooms
[10:48:53] <Freyskeyd> and yes I need to know^^
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[11:01:11] <Holger> Freyskeyd: You might want to use Chat Markers (XEP-0333) rather than Chat States BTW. And make them type='chat' and add a `<store/>` hint (XEP-0334).
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[11:15:03] <Alexander> Hi,
I have ~400 online users
config:  mod_roster:
    versioning: true
    use_cache: true
    cache_size: 50000
    cache_life_time: 3600
2019-01-10 13:41:19.492 [warning] <0.518.0> Shrinking cache 'roster_item_cache' (current size = 50033, max size = 50000, life time = 3600000, memory = 13953856 bytes); you should increase maximum cache size if this message repeats too of
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2019-01-10 13:52:28.516 [warning] <0.518.0> Shrinking cache 'roster_item_cache' (current size = 50001, max size = 50000, life time = 3600000, memory = 13974568 bytes); you should increase maximum cache size if this message repeats too of
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2019-01-10 14:03:01.030 [warning] <0.518.0> Shrinking cache 'roster_item_cache' (current size = 50002, max size = 50000, life time = 3600000, memory = 13989616 bytes); you should increase maximum cache size if this message repeats too of
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[11:17:05] <Alexander> what value do i need to set for roster  cache_size?
[11:19:56] <zinid> Alexander, some users have huge rosters?
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[11:20:47] <Alexander> all users used shared roster
~550users in roster
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[11:25:58] <zinid> isn't the answer obvious?
[11:26:00] <zinid> 550*400
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[11:26:19] <zinid> or 550*550 even
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[11:28:18] <c85by3> hello all. please help
[11:28:58] <c85by3> after trying after updating from 18.09 to 18.12 database dir was erased
[11:29:02] <Alexander> zinid, ohoho
Before that, I used the version 18.03 with cache_size 25000
without such error.
Okay will try 300k
[11:29:17] <Alexander> Thanks
[11:29:20] <c85by3> but ejabberd.database backup mnesia file saved
[11:29:33] <c85by3> i can't restore database from file dump
[11:30:08] <c85by3> i tried `ejabberdctl install-fallback ejabberd-database` and after restart some files was restored but not all
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[11:31:47] <zinid> Alexander, this might be related to cache lifetime, probably behaviour of users has changed, I don't think this is related to server version
[11:31:47] <c85by3> # sudo -u ejabberd ejabberdctl status              
The node 'ejabberd@myhost' is starting with status: started                
ejabberd is not running in that node                                      
Check for error messages: /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log                      
or other files in that directory.
[11:32:01] <c85by3> but there is no any errors in ejabberd.log
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[11:32:23] <c85by3> plese touch me how to restore mnesia database from backup file
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[11:32:38] <c85by3> thanks in advance
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[11:36:20] <c85by3> https://paste.ussr.win/p98nhpnty - there files from /var/lib/ejabbed , ejabberd.log and error.log
[11:37:52] <zinid> 2019-01-10 11:13:27.360 [critical] <0.188.0>@ejabberd_mnesia:init:79 Either set ERLANG_NODE in ejabberdctl.cfg or change node name in Mnesia
[11:38:33] <zinid> I guess it should be ejabberd@oss-it
[11:39:28] <c85by3> zinid: yes it was after first start (ejabberd@localhost), than i removed all files from database dir and restart it again with
[11:41:20] <c85by3> (after removing files from db-dir, it was created new one with correct node name)
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[11:46:14] <c85by3> it works fine after that. but i need to restore old database (user's roster)
[11:46:17] <c85by3> it it possible?
[11:46:36] <c85by3> users tables and them rosters
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[11:50:45] <c85by3> also after fresh install i see {"no such file or directory","stun.app"}
[11:50:55] <c85by3> coul be it the reason?
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[12:03:02] <c85by3> zinid: please, answer, is it possible to restore ejabberd-database dump file (or just to unpack)?
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[12:03:51] <c85by3> i spent several hours to trying, but nothing comes out, only part of the files are restored
[12:05:27] <c85by3> also i tried this way: https://www.sbarjatiya.com/notes_wiki/index.php/Backup_and_restore_of_mnesia_database#Restore_backup_of_mnesia_database_from_backup-file - it's failed with errors
[12:05:39] <c85by3> my backup ~45MB
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[12:25:37] <c85by3> Holger: zinid: please tell me how to be in this situation
[12:25:47] <c85by3> here is a clean log after fresh installation with the old config (before 2019-01-10 12:17:59.397) https://oss-it.ru/share/ejabberd.log.txt
After 12:18 i tried to restore database:
# sudo -u ejabberd ejabberdctl install-fallback ejabberd-database
# sudo -u ejabberd ejabberdctl restart
(after 2019-01-10 12:18:55.053)
[12:26:25] <c85by3> maybe i'm wasting time and misunderstood the purpose of the backup?
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[12:26:41] <zinid> you're annoying
[12:26:45] <zinid> I'm busy
[12:27:26] <c85by3> zinid: скажи пожалуйста, появится ли у тебя время позже? если да, то когда?
[12:27:49] <zinid> russian is forbidden here
[12:28:22] <c85by3> zinid: tell me please, will you have time later? if yes, then when?
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[12:28:55] <c85by3> or can i contact someone else besides you for support here?
[12:29:21] <zinid> sure, wait here, maybe someone will reply
[12:29:28] <Licaon_Kter> c85by3: толко англинскии
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[12:30:19] <c85by3> Licaon_Kter: could you help me? i need to understand, is it possible to restore the database?
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[12:30:41] <Licaon_Kter> c85by3: not using Mnesia, but SQL, sorry
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[12:33:15] <c85by3> zinid: please tell me specifically can you help me in some time? as i understand, here only you are competent in Mnesia
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[12:34:26] <c85by3> (just say yes or no, you refuse to help, or i need to wait some time. Thank you in advance)
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[13:07:57] <c85by3> It seems that zinid was ready to help, until he saw that i am from russia. When he understood this (by looking at my logs), he immediately became busy and rude. Soviet citizens are so soviet. Soviet business ethics. Although it may of course matter in the money, i do not know.
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[13:16:55] <Holger> 😂
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[13:18:20] <Licaon_Kter> c85by3: хорошо поездки товарищ
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[13:19:15] <VC> c85by3: no need to say such things
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[13:20:09] <VC> Holger: some people do not understand that others can also be busy
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[13:26:03] <Holger> Yeah. I'll never understand why people don't work on solving my problems all day, either.
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[13:49:21] <zinid> what I don't understand is why people behave like that, do they really think this will make other people focus on their problems?
[13:49:29] <zinid> I think the effect will be the opposite
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[13:50:14] <zinid> like citing me 3 times, then asking 3 stupid questions about when I'm available, then just become angry and spit shit on me
[13:51:14] <VC> zinid: he think that his Russian language is the main problem) as we can see there are many people who know Russian, but do not have any problems with other peopl
[13:51:39] <cromain> server maintenance planned. in case you don't receive more message from here, please just re-join room.
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[13:52:16] <cromain> done
[13:53:05] <Licaon_Kter> That fast? Wow...
[13:53:21] <Alexander> I'll try again to ask ..
I still can't do the migration from mnesia to mysql.
Migration process completes without error
In appearance everything works, the jabber client can log in. User gets a shared roster...
But the user can not get data in the card from other users.
But if I create a new user, then everything is OK.
I tried to compare the data in the sql tables for a new user and for a migration user, but I could not identify the differences... (
[13:53:32] <cromain> Licaon_Kter: yes... :)
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[13:53:53] <Licaon_Kter> cromain: what did you do? reload_config? :))
[13:54:15] <cromain> upgrade server
[13:54:37] <cromain> i mean ejabberd
[13:54:56] <Licaon_Kter> cromain: riight, not everyone hosts on a RPi1 ;)
[13:55:28] <Licaon_Kter> That being said, removing translations makes mine restart pretty fast too. :D
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[17:02:33] <steven roose> ‎[11:17:36 PM] ‎steven roose‎: I have an admin account that in Conversations shows up in the member list of a MUC (offline), that I want to get out of the room.
‎[11:17:45 PM] ‎steven roose‎: In Gajim, it doesn't show up anywhere.
[17:02:49] <steven roose> it seems to be that this user is a shadow user
[17:02:54] <steven roose> I can't get it out of the list
[17:04:07] <steven roose> any chance there is an ejabberdctl command to kick a user from a muc
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[17:43:02] <Licaon_Kter> steven roose: `set_room_affiliation` ?
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[19:23:34] <XRevan86> Hi, I've recently updated my server to ejabberd 18.12.1 from ejabberd 18.09 and have noticed something peculiar: in MUCs (on another server) I no longer can see messages from participants who use VacuumIM.
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[19:24:29] <XRevan86> Nor their presence. They are non-existent. I tried joining this MUC from VacuumIM as a demonstration, but that didn't work either.
[19:26:09] <XRevan86> MUCs on my server are also off-limits for VacuumIM now.
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[19:45:04] <Licaon_Kter> XRevan86: logs?
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[20:07:13] <XRevan86> Licaon_Kter: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/5026bd76
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[20:13:52] <XRevan86> > Bad value of attribute 'xml:lang' in tag <presence/> qualified by namespace 'jabber:server'
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[20:39:52] <zinid> ejabberd has now strict language tags validator
[20:42:30] <XRevan86> So not a bug but a feature?
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[21:10:47] <XRevan86> zinid: It's being reported on the Vacuum side now, thanks for the clarification :).
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