Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, January 21, 2019< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[11:29:22] <Licaon_Kter> cromain: it would be nicer if p1bot would fix some issues instead ;))
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[11:39:23] <cromain> and automatically reply some questions :)
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[11:46:48] <Licaon_Kter> It would be more useful than say Neustradamus :))
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[12:25:41] <zinid> 😁
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[12:27:44] <ta> Unrelated: is it possible to block someone from ones github repository?
[12:28:20] <Holger> I was wondering the same recently :-)
[12:28:45] <Holger> (But then resorted to a Procmail rule to ditch the email notifications from 'someone'.  Good enough for me.)
[12:29:37] <ta> But you need to clean issues anyway.
[12:29:49] <Holger> p1 does that ;-)
[12:30:20] <Holger> Downside is, I still get the responses.
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[12:31:01] <Holger> Usenet had proper filtering decades ago!
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[12:49:09] <Neustradamus> I think it's for the Indians who come for a configuration problems... "Not a bug report."
Luckily, there are some very good tickets, well detailed, well explained ^^
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[12:51:33] <Neustradamus> I think it's for the Indians who come for configuration problems... "Not a bug report."
Luckily, there are some very good tickets, well detailed, well explained ^^
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[12:53:19] <panpansh> Ejabberd pour toi c'est ce qu'il y a de mieux ?
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[12:53:29] <panpansh> Lol
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[12:53:39] <panpansh> I think yes
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[12:55:44] <ma1uta> Is ejabberd supports rfc7622?
[12:55:53] <ma1uta> *Does
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[12:59:19] <zinid> ma1uta, yes and no
[12:59:23] <zinid> it doesn't support PRECIS
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[13:01:06] <ma1uta> thanks.
[13:01:53] <ma1uta> oh, another two rfcs, I see.
[13:02:21] <zinid> those RFCs are so moot, I don't have any desire to delve into them
[13:02:48] <zinid> there are ready-to-use libraries, but they are slow
[13:03:05] <ma1uta> ok
[13:05:23] <ma1uta> I found https://bitbucket.org/sco0ter/precis, good.
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[13:36:59] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
[13:37:14] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Fuck bot
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[14:09:04] <Holger> He's back, now.
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[14:14:08] <ta> now fuck it.
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[14:14:19] <panpansh> I disable auto join for test sorry for spam
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[16:22:59] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: that's kinda it...
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[16:23:07] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/5COEeljQaTeHCjXz8axDrkSkKYFbzajbEA60AVwe/rpi3_500_sys.PNG
[16:23:17] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/u7v1xs9VeHNUTIwv2VoEJnf6UQviIy2TwZbSJ8PE/rpi3_500.PNG
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[17:52:46] <ta> Licaon_Kter: damn, your pi can be slow
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[18:13:36] <Licaon_Kter> ta: the current one? Yes...
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[18:27:07] <ta> Yeah, never noticed it this bad, but maybe all the clients issuing auto download of http uploads adds on that impression.
[18:29:27] <Licaon_Kter> Eh RPi1 is no speed demon
Now that I know how much ejabberd can flex, for my next task I want to put nginx in front for Converse and http_upload
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[18:35:36] <ta> Exactly the setup i want to accomplish. Report! ;-)
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[19:26:31] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, +1 for nginx
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[19:44:02] <Licaon_Kter> ta: that's RTB hammering at a RPi3+, trying to find how much can it handle. And eventually upgrading current version 1.
[19:44:06] <jonny> I don't understand what's wrong with apache2, sure config is not the easiest, but once understood really powerful. Never had the motivation to learn everything again about http serving...
[19:44:42] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: FYI, proxy65 still not working, maybe you can make it out.ut the domain & the IP when it errors out, I can't debug blindly
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[19:46:14] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: had http_upload lowered to 10Mb, while I have 100Mb in prod, rarely there's a file over 10Mb, also SD cards  fill fast, had a cron job to nuke all uploads by the hour
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[19:48:15] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: when you set 10mb that means the files size in rtb will be uniformly picked between 1 byte and 10mb, averaging at 5mb
[19:48:51] <zinid> 5mb is pretty average for uncompressed image, so it's fine
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[19:50:50] <Licaon_Kter> oom_killer is dumb dumb dumb, ignore the cache issue, everytime it kills hundreds of sessions, while RAM is freed temporarely, ejabberd still is hit by the comeback, and still needs to handle the dropped users, ok maybe clients backoff randomly and in reality they're not comming back with a vengeance...but still does more harm than good.
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[19:51:09] <Licaon_Kter> Also, http_upload will make cache grow..hence oom_kill ...done...
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[19:52:34] <Licaon_Kter> MUCs...kept medium and small, that large one is nice I guess, but too much, again largest MUCs on the net are like what 250users? Yeah, I couldn't even join them with Conversations :))
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[19:58:40] <Licaon_Kter> I've observed a pattern of how things go, basically at start the server is stormed by the connections, so this is the delicate part, basically it needs to get over it, process all connections...
RAM - don't go over what's available, swap is slow, zram is meh
Connections - keep up with them, don't get behind
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[20:02:49] <Licaon_Kter> Not sure the pic is clear enough in the upper left corner for sessions, the start can be seen.
But....if it survives that...then it's really stable going...RAM is going down to 50%, average CPU goes from 7 to 2.
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[21:01:11] <zinid> yes, avalanche is a real problem in highload, we at p1 have quite sophisticated rules at haproxy to fight with avalanches
[21:04:41] <zinid> and yes, the idea is that clients back-off exponentially as the RFC requires
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[21:35:24] <Licaon_Kter> So on that graph I guess I could pile 100 more, but not from the start, the memory pressure is high, and by the time that stabilizes we hit the CPU limits, it can't cope with that many things to do, since those 100 are not linearly loading the server but exponentially (kinda).
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