Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, March 4, 2019< ^ >
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[06:50:22] <zinid> > Did I break zinid?
mightyBroccoli, no, I just fell asleep 🙂
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[07:17:38] <rom1dep> I noticed that ejabberd does weird stuff when I `make install` without previously cleaning the install folder, allowing several versions of a bunch of libs to coexist. Is that due to the nature of the runtime not caring about versions (as long as it can find a type signature with as many parameters as expected)? Or is it something else?
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[07:36:18] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: what's the problem? I thought that was intentional..,you can go back to a previous version ;)
[07:36:29] <Licaon_Kter> I usually clean up old libs/versions after a while
[07:39:46] <rom1dep> I don't know how to describe that, a kind of zombie mode where things seem to work half way
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[07:47:56] <Licaon_Kter> What? No...things work out ok since versions are tied to specific libs version.
rom1dep: what did you see exactly?
[07:48:51] <Licaon_Kter> (Fyi I'm on HEAD since 18.03, and except the fast_tls openssl 1.1.1 thing, everything worked ok)
[07:51:56] <rom1dep> Things like client being connected but messages not coming up, restarting not improving things and only working fine after a cleanup,
buten I have the selinux layer of randomness on top of it
[07:54:23] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: never saw that, i make install as I build, multiple times even as commits come, and do a restart when I can
[07:55:06] <rom1dep> You make install each time, or run from the build dir?
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[07:58:59] <zinid> `make install` has problems yeah, there is an issue for this actually
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[08:19:57] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: `make install` as expected
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[11:40:42] <Holger> zinid: Hmm, in 28f66ddd7c3d you switched gen_server modules to use gen_mod's supervisor instead.  This means Mod:terminate() is no longer called, no?
[11:40:57] <Holger> gen_server calls this on receiving 'shutdown' from the supervisor.
[11:41:16] <zinid> Holger, really? Why not?
[11:41:39] <Holger> Maybe I'm overlooking something.
[11:42:09] <Holger> Where is 'shutdown' handled and Mod:terminate() called?
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[11:43:14] <Holger> I'm trying to understand #2810.  Something stops his ejabberd (no idea what, he should look himself), I just don't get why `mod_http_upload_quota` doesn't handle the 'shutdown' message nicely.
[11:44:03] <zinid> well I have no idea either and a bit busy right now to dive into the problem
[11:44:08] <Holger> Ok.
[11:45:35] <zinid> Sorry 🤗
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[11:46:09] <Holger> No problem, whenever I ask you it's just my laziness to track things down myself :-)
[11:48:10] <zinid> Damn, my CSR XEP is becoming monstrous 🙁
[11:48:31] <zinid> flow, http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-csr.html
[11:49:25] <zinid> this is only a half I think or so
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[11:53:50] <Alacer> any plans to package 19.02 for Debian stretch ? thx..
[11:54:25] <zinid> Alacer, it's better to quote debalance for such questions
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[11:55:39] <Alacer> debalance: any plans to package 19.02 for Debian stretch ? thx..
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[12:15:46] <flow> zinid, I would be curious how you would do the "list all certificates" use case, maybe you could add it as a strawman?
[12:16:09] <zinid> flow, I'm thinking about this
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[12:16:57] <zinid> I am currently fiddling with IBR case
[12:17:26] <zinid> i.e. an account registration and certificate issuance in the same step
[12:18:00] <flow> does it have to be? isn't it something we can figure out and design later?
[12:19:35] <flow> I wonder right now if you have to return the whole certifcate versus just its fingerprint so that the client can lookup the certificate on the PEP node or something, and if this would be good or bad
[12:19:57] <zinid> I think it should be the whole certificate 😀
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[12:20:57] <zinid> and I want to propose the IBR use case because I want to propose a complete picture
[12:21:13] <zinid> it's of course up to the community to decide what to keep
[12:23:03] <zinid> and I honestly see the IBR as the major use case, i.e. the stand-alone certificate request from existing account is a transitioning mechanism
[12:23:51] <zinid> it's quite ugly: I user needs to register at the server, then prove identity at some CA server
[12:24:22] <flow> Sure, we might have slighlty different visions, but as long as everyone gets is lego bricks to play with we all should be happy
[12:24:28] <flow> *his
[12:24:55] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: can I force a quota clean up or is that marked somewhere and starts once a day?
[12:26:22] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: The max_days thing?  That's done 10 minutes after startup and then once a day, no way to fource.
[12:27:27] <Holger> `find $upload_dir -type f -mtime +$days -delete`
[12:27:28] <Holger> :-)
[12:27:57] <Holger> I just built-in that thing so it plays well together with the size quota, which is the real feature of that module.
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[12:30:30] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: eh...so I can't help then
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[15:08:52] <debalance> Alacer: not really. Buster is more or less frozen, so I can't upload new versions to unstable/testing and thus can't backport them to stretch.
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[16:11:00] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Stupid question..if I want to use mqtt server while building from source..docicneed special flag with ./configure?
[16:11:24] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Stupid question..if I want to use mqtt server while building from source..do I need special flag with ./configure?
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[16:12:35] <cromain> no
[16:14:32] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Just saw build log ..thanks
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[16:20:34] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Aaaaaaand... Upgrade finsihed 😎
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[16:42:03] <Alacer> debalance: Thanks..
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[21:35:34] <zinid> Holger, btw, regarding {'EXIT',<0.581.0>,shutdown}
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[21:35:46] <zinid> Holger, isn't the process number (581) too high to be a supervisor?
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[21:35:54] <zinid> seems like just some linked process died
[21:41:17] <zinid> > systemd is not running in this server
yet another localhost admin. fucking amateurs
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[21:46:55] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: re: #2541, try with cleaning the install folder ^^
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[21:55:02] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im:443/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/wtZcD6mG74ZcWbX9g93QNH1AljLvzmVTXA1mLElL/Screenshot_TermBot_20190304-235357.png
[21:55:31] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: ^^^ how many of these do you have for what pool value on what PG version?
[21:56:03] <zinid> that's a wrong question
[21:56:22] <zinid> attach to the ejabberd node and run `ets:info(sql_pool, size).`
[21:56:58] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yeah that was my next question, how to check...brb
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[21:58:19] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: :)) nice try
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[22:00:11] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: fun fun fun, guess the result!?
[22:00:41] <rom1dep> here it says 4, sql_pool_size: 4 in my conf
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[22:01:31] <rom1dep> also, I list 4 from htop
[22:01:46] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, wat?
[22:01:52] <zinid> 125?
[22:02:08] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: nope, see the picture....says 8
[22:02:40] Licaon_Kter is not crazy after all...no...nope...
:))
[22:02:41] <zinid> yeah, one cannot simply answer the question
[22:02:53] <rom1dep> WFM
[22:02:56] <Licaon_Kter> Eh...
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[22:03:17] <rom1dep> just changed to 6, reload-config, remshed → 6, htop → 6
[22:03:20] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I'm not in the mood for guessing
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[22:03:42] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: it was ok on PG 9.6 and OTP20...reload 8 ....8... reload 4....4...hey RPi1 so I kept it at 1
[22:04:17] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I've already answered....like the picture says...8....pool_size 4 in YML ....ets says 8
[22:04:35] <rom1dep> back to 4, remsh gives 4, but htop lists 6
[22:04:42] <rom1dep> seems like it leaks though
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[22:04:59] <zinid> maybe related to postgresql driver, I tried with mysql only
[22:05:26] <Licaon_Kter> Right... badlop too...
[22:05:59] <zinid> but still, it's weird ets says 8
[22:06:29] <zinid> I'll check tomorrow with pgsql, you convinced me, bastards
[22:06:35] <Licaon_Kter> :))
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[22:07:06] <zinid> I'm glad though you cannot find more important bugs 😀
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[22:07:25] <rom1dep> hahaha
[22:07:38] <rom1dep> yeah, ejabberd is boring
[22:07:44] <Licaon_Kter> I guess it's the driver, they must have changed something in PG11... because it multplies sql_pool with 2...
[22:08:08] <Licaon_Kter> 8 yields 16 processes
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[22:08:26] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: postgres 11.2 here
[22:08:41] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: interesting...
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[22:09:47] <zinid> and mysql doesn't split connection into processes...
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[22:10:19] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: not arm64 I guess?
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[22:10:57] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: duuuude, common. Golden toasters only!
`model name      : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz`
[22:11:30] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: that's a beast :))
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[22:15:10] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: yeah, no doubt, but I wouldn't replace my laptop's CPU by this one even that gave me double the battery: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Atom-N2800-vs-Intel-i7-8550U/616vs3064
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[22:26:10] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: my bad, it's actually slower than my RPi3+
https://openbenchmarking.org/result/1812048-SK-1812046SK15
WTF?
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[22:28:26] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: how do you manage network/power outage with your home servers?
[22:28:33] <rom1dep> that's some bragging rights, there
[22:29:51] <rom1dep> zinid: I guess you can power that thing for days with a 15€ xiaomi power bank, but yeah, network…
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[22:33:40] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I don't...as in they're pretty rare so I don't care.
[22:34:29] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: power banks...I'll have to research if any can output as much as the new powerbrick
[22:36:14] <rom1dep> powerbrick? any link for that?
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[22:43:29] <Licaon_Kter> Umm...they recommend 2.5A now
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-universal-power-supply/
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[22:58:30] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> zinid, here?
[22:58:40] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> or just to all: I need a very good VON provider :)
[22:59:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> VPN
[22:59:39] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> sorry ^^
[23:01:29] <Licaon_Kter> ThUnD3r|Gr33n©: define good!
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