Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, March 11, 2019< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[07:25:39] <pinky> Hi all
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[07:47:27] <Licaon_Kter> pinky: yo!
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[11:51:48] <pinky> zinid: are you online, pls?
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[11:52:01] <zinid> pinky, yes
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[11:52:18] <pinky> zinid: i have some troubles with certificates...
[11:52:43] <pinky> zinid: i have for telegram.jabbim.com one pem file, for jabbim.com second file, etc
[11:52:54] <zinid> so them all in `certfiles`
[11:53:04] <zinid> *so put them all
[11:53:23] <pinky> zinid: https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=telegram.jabbim.com&type=server
[11:53:57] <pinky> zinid: from some reason, for gateway is selected some cert probably randomly...
[11:54:08] <zinid> what ejabberd version?
[11:54:17] <pinky> zinid: yes, i have it via certfiles
[11:54:35] <pinky> zinid: no other domain_certfile or s2s_certfile, everything removed...
[11:54:43] <zinid> there was a bug in certfile selection for subdomains, Holger has fixed it
[11:54:48] <pinky> zinid: 17.11 :-D
[11:55:09] <zinid> well, upgrade
[11:55:16] <pinky> zinid: :-D thank you
[11:55:30] <pinky> zinid: i love retro, you know...
[11:55:41] <zinid> nah, you're just a lazy admin 😛
[11:55:51] <pinky> zinid: true :-D
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[11:58:18] <pinky> zinid: if it's working, don't change it :-)
[11:58:27] <pinky> zinid: and 17.11 looks stable now...
[11:58:49] <pinky> zinid: but i will like certificates reload feature too, i will upgrade...
[11:58:52] <Holger> So subdomain certificate selection is working? :-)
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[11:58:59] <pinky> Holger: no, sir :-D
[11:59:52] <pinky> Holger: i don't have certificates for subdomains in last years, but some users reporting our muc not working from strict servers...
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[12:00:56] <pinky> Holger: you know, i'm old, Jabbim is here since 2001... 18 years +
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[12:02:12] <Holger> Yeah, I'm old and lazy myself.
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[12:08:04] <zinid> typical jabberd admin
[12:08:10] <zinid> typical jabber admin
[12:09:11] <pinky> :-D
[12:09:32] <pinky> you know, configuration is problably changed...
[12:09:39] <pinky> new errors... new bugs...
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[17:15:04] <Holger> Why do we have `s2s_receive_packet` and `s2s_in_authenticated_packet`?
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[17:21:30] <zinid> Holger: because of accumulator?
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[17:22:48] <Holger> But do we need a hook without?
[17:23:18] <Holger> Maybe for consistency with s2s_out... and so on ...
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[17:27:59] <zinid> no, we don't need hooks without accumulator like at all
[17:28:31] <zinid> because you later suddenly realize you need an accumulator
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[17:31:04] <zinid> and you cannot simply remove the hook
[17:31:23] <Holger> Why not?
[17:31:42] <Holger> We changed hooks in incompatible ways before, no?
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[17:34:13] <Holger> New topic!  Is there a reason to use cache_tab instead of ets_cache?
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[17:34:57] <zinid> Holger: no reason
[17:35:02] <Holger> Thx.
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[17:44:15] <zinid> regarding changing hooks in the past: yeah, we did that, and got a bunch of problems with third-party projects and criticism
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[17:45:27] <zinid> also, the current hooking system is a mess and if we decide to change hooks we should redesign all of them
[17:45:32] <zinid> at least in my opinion
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[17:45:40] <Holger> Ok.
[17:46:21] <zinid> ah, and removing hooks and changing hooks is completely different beasts
[17:46:35] <zinid> we probably can safely remove s2s_receive_packet by not using it, but still calling it
[17:47:21] <Holger> I'm fine with backwards-compat as a goal of course.  Just wasn't aware we now have that goal ;-)
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[17:48:37] <zinid> this is planned (TM)
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