Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, April 24, 2019< ^ >
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[06:54:12] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: how do I test exactly? I guess it's working...with badlop changes I can register from CLI and users can change pass. But if I remove mod_register users can't change pass but I can still add users from CLI.
[06:54:40] <zinid> change password?
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[06:54:59] <Licaon_Kter> Yes....why do you ask?
[06:55:04] <zinid> there was nothing about changing passwords in the issue
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[06:55:29] <zinid> is there a command for this?
[06:55:37] <Licaon_Kter> It was...see my response to badlop
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[06:56:26] <Licaon_Kter> Not command.....from clients....
Dude, it's toa early for you or smth? :))
[06:56:32] <Licaon_Kter> *too
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[06:58:32] <zinid> you cannot change passwords from clients without xep-0077 support
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[06:59:05] <zinid> because changing passwords protocol is described there
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[07:00:08] <zinid> > Dude, it's too early for you or smth? :))
it's 10:00 AM, why?
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[07:01:10] <Licaon_Kter> Let's back off...
So...with mod_reg + ip_allow local + acl register allow, users can change pass but can't make new accounts
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[07:02:19] <Licaon_Kter> And...without mod_reg, users can't change pass (no accounts too ofcourse), but admin can still create from CLI
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[07:06:31] <Licaon_Kter> But....with mod_register + ip_allow local + acl register deny (as I had the config setup per docs), users can change pass, not make accounts, but admin can't create accounts either.
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[07:14:16] <Licaon_Kter> So now we can simplify the example in the docs, one needs only trusted network and ip_access, no need for access rule register deny
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[07:46:35] <zinid> what you said is correct, as I understand it
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[09:28:06] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: mod_default_rooms covers the CLI registration as well?
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[09:35:58] <zinid> > Stop the OMEMO hate
Neva!!!
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[10:27:01] <Holger> Licaon_Kter:
> mod_default_rooms covers the CLI registration as well?
Yes.
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[10:27:48] <Holger> (So I should probably remove that soft dependency on `mod_register`.)
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[10:55:49] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: And fix the description...
[10:56:18] <Holger> Ah, true.
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[11:05:12] <Holger> Steven Roose: Did you ever test the module, BTW? :-)
[11:05:49] <Steven Roose> No, it's in my todo list on top šŸ˜•
[11:06:24] <Steven Roose> We bought an appartment two weeks ago and have been doing paperwork before and moving/buying/planning after while also busy at work šŸ˜• I really want to go try it.
[11:06:41] <Steven Roose> I also need to update my Converse because users are complaining about OMEMO like crazy šŸ˜€
[11:06:54] <Holger> Heh, no worries, I was just curious.
[11:07:41] <Holger> We moved to a new flat a few months ago, no fun ...
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[11:10:00] <zinid> hey I relocated to another city!
[11:10:45] <zinid> but that's normal for me šŸ˜ I changed 4 cities already in the past 5 years
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[11:17:41] <poVoq> try countries... exiting at first, but after a while you really lose all your social connections
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[11:19:03] <poVoq> in the last 7 years I lived in 6 different countries (on 3 different continents)
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[11:24:11] <Licaon_Kter> poVoq: U CIA?
[11:24:41] <poVoq> heh, not quite. Professional Humanitarian Aid worker
[11:25:07] <poVoq> lots of shit going on these days :(
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[11:26:49] <poVoq> thinking of quitting though... ultimately not worth the stress etc.
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[12:33:53] <rom1dep> (but nothing as great as humanitarian help, just my messed up life)
[12:35:03] <poVoq> rom1dep how are you coping with social ties?
[12:36:22] <Licaon_Kter> poVoq: hosting xmpp I guess :))
[12:37:00] <poVoq> That makes it worse, not better šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
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[12:37:50] <rom1dep> poVoq: as it happens, most of my best friends also live abroad, which leads us to have interesting palaces and occasions to meet, often not planned long in advance
[12:39:20] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: well, being now in China, XMPP actually helps on this front (with about everything else but WeChat being blocked)
[12:39:25] <Licaon_Kter> poVoq: why? Domains don't move...VPSes neither
[12:41:01] <poVoq> > poVoq: why? Domains don't move...VPSes neither
Not too many people on xmpp
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[12:41:29] <Licaon_Kter> poVoq: only those who care, I know....
[12:41:41] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe that's better...for social stuff
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[12:41:58] <poVoq> Yeah
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[12:43:02] <poVoq> > Licaon_Kter: well, being now in China, XMPP actually helps on this front (with about everything else but WeChat being blocked)
Is there by the way a bridge or gateway for that? Could be an missed opportunity :)
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[12:44:19] <poVoq> > poVoq: as it happens, most of my best friends also live abroad, which leads us to have interesting palaces and occasions to meet, often not planned long in advance
Yeah, that what I also thought for a long time. But the reality is that you end up meeting them once a year or so.
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[12:47:08] <Licaon_Kter> *Jaydee is the made up not copyright infringing thing to say for an ID for Jabber :))
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[12:50:56] <rom1dep> > But the reality is that you end up meeting them once a year or so.
Very true, is has upsides and downsides. I don't see myself doing that for the rest of my life (or much longer for that matter).
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[12:59:18] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: hongbaos are noodles or dumplings? :))
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[13:00:41] <rom1dep> That family stuffs with cash
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[13:05:23] <rom1dep> And that WeChat turned into a way to repay others or be slightly more entertaining than just by sending stickers
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[14:20:29] <poVoq> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19733618
[14:22:55] <poVoq> But ehh... very open core šŸ˜­
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[15:34:19] <zinid> on that HN link: I like how some people noticed that crypto *suddenly* degrades performance
[15:34:20] <zinid> especially DTLS
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[15:35:04] <zinid> for DTLS this will be 2 orders of magnitude
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[15:35:15] <zinid> instead of 10usec you will spend 1ms to process the packet
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[15:36:25] <zinid> so you basically will need 100 servers instead of 1
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[16:47:46] <Steven Roose> Licaon_Kter: what has mod_default_room to do with OMEMO hate?
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[16:48:00] <Steven Roose> More mod_shared_roster hate
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[16:50:07] <Licaon_Kter> Steven Roose: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/pull/271
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