Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, May 25, 2019< ^ >
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[10:22:01] <rom1dep> so, the only SQL migration that I'm seeing for 19.02→19.05 is for MQTT, is that right?
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[10:25:49] <edhelas> 2.6 is so vintage
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[10:29:35] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: that was 18.12->... Anyway.e.
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[10:32:04] <rom1dep> https://upload.tamytro.org/upload/a3849b367f4dd4cedd5ad6f64afa7645b7d4f834/FfzvXTBF9Fr7J1dzCpO4ANDWyIDo5n0tluGys9gb/0.png
[10:32:09] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: ↑
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[10:33:10] <marek> > so, the only SQL migration that I'm seeing for 19.02→19.05 is for MQTT, is that right?
rom1dep: yes, if you want to have SQL as backend for mqtt tables
[10:33:56] <zinid> rom1dep, you don't need that table if you don't use mod_mqtt
[10:34:33] <rom1dep> yup. It's free to have it in case, though
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[10:54:48] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: so 19.02 was launched only with Mnesia mqtt tables?
Eh...don't have an usecase for mqtt hence not paying attention.
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[11:19:14] <rom1dep> https://code.tamytro.org/_admin/gists/lLcT94WASAmu4VugvKPS
huh, that's... new
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[11:19:56] <rom1dep (alt)> have no idea where I fucked up
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[11:22:34] <rom1dep (alt)> updated with {crash,error}.log
[11:23:51] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep (alt): was that on stop then start?
It didn't start at all?
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[11:25:16] <rom1dep (alt)> it's started, but name resolution crashes
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[11:25:56] <rom1dep (alt)> I'll try clean ffdx/distclean one more time
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[11:29:10] <rom1dep (alt)> might have been a vcs fuckup, in fact, I had merge markers here and there
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[11:35:08] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep (alt): umm why?
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[11:36:30] <rom1dep> Because I checked out a new revision from a dirty working directory without paying attention, I can only blame myself
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[12:30:32] <Licaon_Kter> Eh
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[13:27:10] <Licaon_Kter> > ejabberd 19.05.5 is running in that node
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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[13:30:05] <rom1dep> at least I did achieve something ^^
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[13:34:35] <rom1dep> 🤯
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[13:35:39] <rom1dep> looks like movim got message reactions recently. Looks like they are shown as unrelated emojis in every other client.
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[13:54:12] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: my node...lol
Too bad the kernel update went nowhere and had to backtrack to 5.1.1
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[13:54:26] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: is that a XEP?
[13:54:49] <404.city> Guys, did I write the instructions correctly? https://github.com/E-404/Manifestos/blob/master/1.md
[13:55:17] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: no idea
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[13:56:22] <Licaon_Kter> 404.city: no...wait....who is still accepting selfsigned on s2s? (On non .onion context)
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[13:58:45] <404.city> Licaon_Kter, 99% servers
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[16:04:56] <j.r> 404.city: your provided config for ejabberd is deprecated...
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[16:21:16] <zinid> you don't even imagine how many stuff the next ejabberd version will deprecate 🙂
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[16:21:53] <j.r> zinid, oh a bit of funn incomming xD 😉
[16:21:59] <j.r> *fun
[16:22:23] <reset> > you don't even imagine how many stuff the next ejabberd version will deprecate 🙂
Sounds scary
[16:22:32] <zinid> yeah, but you don't need to immediately do anything, old stuff is still supported
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[16:23:43] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: depreciate XMPP finally? Going full MQTT?
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[16:25:07] <zinid> nah, going full Matrix
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[16:26:00] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: wow, nice, finally a monolithic protocol to save us all
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[16:26:39] <zinid> 65.1% monolithic
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[16:30:14] <Licaon_Kter> > warning] <0.1124.0>@ejabberd_s2s:opt_type:730 The value 'required_trusted' of option 's2s_use_starttls' is deprected and will be unsupported in future releases. Instead, set it to 'required' and make sure mod_s2s_dialback is *NOT* loaded
Typo _depreciated_ aside... Why not dialback?
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[16:31:12] <poVoq> Would be fun though if with ejabberd there would be finally a usable home server for Matrix :)
[16:31:55] <Licaon_Kter> I bet zinid can whip a better than synapse implementation in one weekend
[16:31:58] <zinid> poVoq, I actually don't want to do them a favor
[16:32:33] <poVoq> Ahh... stop the hate 🤣
[16:33:29] <zinid> why hate? That's pure engineering question 🙂 Why can't they write a performant server?
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[16:34:25] <Licaon_Kter> Wtf, docs. doesn't have info on `mod_s2s_dialback` ?
[16:34:41] <zinid> that dude who is developing Synapse, he is always participating those stupid Youtube pr0n videos they release every week or so, bragging how much progress he did in the previous week, lmao
[16:34:54] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, who is reading docs?
[16:35:04] <Licaon_Kter> I am dammit
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[16:35:20] <zinid> stahp doing that
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[16:35:59] <Licaon_Kter> Did everyone stop thinking and reading and ended up copy/pasting bad advice from StackExchange???
[16:36:46] <zinid> of course, what a stupid question
[16:38:12] <Licaon_Kter> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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[17:42:02] <marek> I see this in my logs, is this ok:
[info] push.monal.im rejected notification for xyz@xyz.xy (2D5A815E-XYZX-XYXZ-BC50-730B311C5983) temporarily: Ratelimit reached (resource-constraint)
[17:42:06] <marek> ?
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[17:45:29] <zinid> no idea, Holger?
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[17:47:01] <Holger> ma1uta: What the message says.
[17:47:08] <Holger> marek I mean.
[17:47:34] <Holger> marek: This is the `push_appserver_rate_limit` documented here: https://github.com/tmolitor-stud-tu/mod_push_appserver#configuration-options-mod_push_appserver
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[17:48:56] <Holger> marek: Not a problem in practice, the previous push message will have woken Monal.
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[17:52:43] <marek> Holger‎, thx, probably a device was started after a period of time of being offline
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[17:56:10] <Holger> I get those quite often.  The rate limit is ... a bit too aggressive.
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[18:04:53] <zinid> report the "bug" to the server maintainer?
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[18:05:19] <Holger> I did, he doesn't want to change it. 🙄
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[18:05:37] <Holger> Whatever, doesn't break functionality.
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[18:08:34] <zinid> okay, I hope he has real reason for this
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[18:21:43] <Holger> No.
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[18:51:29] <poVoq> Didn't he recently blog about prosody spamming push notifications and thus effecting battery on iOS?
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[18:53:29] <poVoq> https://monal.im/blog/why-do-i-have-so-many-accounts/
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[20:42:58] <zinid> excellent comment from HN, all you need to know about full-stack devs:
> As a "full stack" web developer, I can count on one hand the number of times I've looked at a browser's source code. Same for databases. I understand the basics of DNS, IP, TCP, UDP, BGP, but not the details. And my knowledge of common ISAs is laughable. And I have essentially no knowledge of hardware: physical CPUs/GPUs, displays, fiber optics, etc.
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[21:34:16] <marek> > excellent comment from HN, all you need to know about full-stack devs:
Hahaha, really nice
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