Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, June 4, 2019< ^ >
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[07:28:35] <Holger> WTF 19.05 won't bounce groupchat for offline users by default?
[07:29:16] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/3b16afeda78f45
[07:29:18] <Holger> Sigh.
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[07:29:46] <Holger> > muc will drop bounces anyway
MUC will not just drop them but kick the participant of course?
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[07:35:28] <Holger> Back in the days we had the bug that we didn't return an error if another resource was still online.  We ran into various weirdness with that behavior.
[07:38:27] <zinid> yeah, crap
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[07:46:20] <Holger> Hm actually the code is never triggered unless I'm overlooking something.
[07:46:39] <Holger> ejabberd_sm won't let type=groupchat through to mod_offline.
[07:46:45] <Holger> Smart ejabberd_sm.
[07:46:49] <Holger> I'll ask prefiks.
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[08:49:10] <Holger> (All clear now.)
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[08:50:33] <Holger> BTW how's MUC/Sub different from standard MUC when `user_mucsub_from_muc_archive` is enabled?
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[08:51:09] <Holger> Do subscribers still receive message notifications, just without body?
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[08:53:45] <Holger> And who invented that option name? I thought *I* am bad at names 😜
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[09:27:08] <Holger> Ah subscribers still receive them via offline of course.  Just borks multi-device notifications.
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[09:38:14] <zinid> I'm fed with this shit already, for example: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_offline.erl#L803
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[09:39:46] <Holger> Yes, it's ugly of course.
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[09:41:39] <zinid> that's typical code in eBE 🙂
[09:41:51] <zinid> it just sneaks from time to time into eCS 🙂
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[09:43:00] <Holger> Hehe yes you see at first glance that this code just exists because someone spent $$$ on it :-)
[09:43:47] <zinid> a few years later this code won't be needed so I will remove it during refactoring 😉
[09:43:59] <Holger> 👍
[09:44:23] <Holger> I sometimes do small ejabberd contracts and my patches looks similar (well sometimes).  They just don't sneak back into eCS :-P
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[10:32:06] <nz> Quick question, on a server already running for some time, turning mam completely off and then issuing "delete_old_mam_messages type all days 0" should produce the effect of all mam being gone, as if it had never been enabled in the first place ever, is that correct?
[10:32:45] <nz> Also, I know this is an API command, I'm still reading into how to issue it from cli, so the above syntax is an example
[10:33:37] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> `sudo -u ejabberdctl delete_old_mam_messages type all days 0` ?
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[10:35:01] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> zinid Your code is better 'cause of MongooseIM :))
https://dirkstrauss.com/visual-studio-intellicode/
> uses open source GitHub projects with 100 stars or more to generate recommendations for your code.
[10:35:41] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> _who's stealing from whom now?_
Payback time!!!
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[10:36:59] <zinid> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], wut? I don't follow 🙂
[10:37:35] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> you'll figure it out 😉
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[10:38:00] <nz> Oh, that simple? Was still reading the docs, I guess that answers it!
[10:38:13] <zinid> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], how ejabberd is related to that visual studio AI crap?
[10:38:24] <zinid> als, MongooseIM?
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[10:38:28] <zinid> *also
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[10:39:07] <zinid> I really don't understand
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[10:39:56] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> If you'd use it....the AI will help you write code.....the AI is trained on "open source GitHub projects with 100 stars or more"...hence...
[10:40:10] <zinid> ah, lol
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[12:47:09] <Holger> !version jabber.fu-berlin.de
[12:47:09] <Servant> Holger: jabber.fu-berlin.de is running ejabberd version 19.05.2-ZEDAT on unix/linux 4.9.0
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[12:51:13] <nz> Licaon_Kter what are you using http_fileserver for here: https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/54d4656cc753b98e1dc0d81a59a73faa? Are both http_fileserver *and* http_uploads substituted by nginx uploads as instructed by Holger's doc? Is docroot necessary on http_upload if using nginx? I only have put_url, thumbnail: true, max_size, external_secret.
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[12:51:58] <Holger> nz: You don't need `thumbnail: true` if you're not building a custom client.
[12:52:08] <nz> ok
[12:52:19] <Holger> nz: docroot is not necessary unless you're also using mod_http_upload_quota.
[12:52:44] <nz> good to know
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[12:53:24] <Holger> mod_http_fileserver is just a web server for static files, I think Licaon_Kter uses it to serve the Converse.js files or whatever.
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[12:54:25] <nz> Ok, so I'll keep http_upload with these minimal 3 lines and completely eliminate http_fileserver as I do everything with nginx at this point
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[12:54:41] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Yes, Converse since I'm dumb and looks like I can't nginx redirect websockets (wtf is error 200 whaaaatt?)
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[12:55:47] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: I have this config, FWIW:
    # WebSocket
    location /websocket {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8084;
        proxy_http_version 1.1;
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection $connection_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Host $host;
        proxy_read_timeout 180s;
        proxy_send_timeout 180s;
    }
[12:55:49] <Holger> Works for me.
[12:55:54] <nz> Check out how I do this Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]
[12:56:34] <nz> https://github.com/openspace42/aenigma/blob/master/functions#L3279
[12:56:37] <Holger> Ah plus this in the http {} block:
# http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/websocket.html
map $http_upgrade $connection_upgrade {
    default upgrade;
    '' close;
}
[12:56:39] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> I'll try, on a first look it's the same as any other example, on another hand do any of you have SSLH in front oo?
[12:56:47] <Holger> No SSLH.
[12:57:05] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> I'll try non the less
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[12:59:29] <nz> I don't use nginx for websockets at all as that's directly handled by ejabberd_http on port 5443, then I use SSLH in front that demultiplexes xhXX.domain.tld to localhost:5444. However I do use nginx reverse websocket proxy for Tor and only for it, so that I only have to accept one self-signed tls cert for https://xxx.onion/xmpp [where converse is hosted] and therefore websocket_url is wss:xxx.onion/ws, in order to have everything under the same domain
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[13:00:49] <Holger> WebSocket on port 5444 has the downside it won't work in restricted WiFis/whatever.
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[13:02:30] <nz> but I have SSLH in front of everything 😉
[13:02:35] <Holger> Ah.
[13:02:47] <nz> the entire thing works on an ipv6-only network with only 443 open outbound
[13:03:20] <Holger> Ok.  Then only hope you don't have too many clients because SSLH scales horribly :-)
[13:03:47] <nz> aha, good to know, that applies both to sslh-fork and the other one as well?
[13:03:57] <Holger> It does the one thing it should do good---handle connections---very bad.
[13:04:06] <Holger> Yes both options are stupid.
[13:04:10] <nz> ok
[13:04:12] <nz> Any better one between | proxy_set_header Connection "Upgrade"; | and | proxy_set_header Connection $connection_upgrade; | ?
[13:04:22] <nz> i use the first one, the second one is from your config
[13:04:56] <Holger> It'll either fork n OS processes for n connections; or use select() on a single CPU, which is the worst choice for I/O multiplexing.  It should just use libev or something.
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[13:06:39] <Holger> Regarding your question, it's explained here: http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/websocket.html
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[13:07:31] <Holger> I.e. in practice 'Connection "Upgrade"' will be fine.
[13:13:16] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Ok, the second question, why not nginx: https://github.com/yrutschle/sslh/issues/228
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[13:14:48] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz I don't want nginx FOR websockets, I want it to host the damn Converse files and connect to ejabberd, but....it fails to pass the connection (better said I fail to setup it I guess)
[13:15:05] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: Not sure I got it, does it work without sslh?
[13:15:40] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Test each link with wget, one will be stuck...the nginx one...
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[13:16:10] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> *sslh=>nginx actually
[13:16:32] <Holger> They all work for me.
[13:16:38] <Holger> Ah!
[13:16:58] <Holger> Almost. 98% :-)
[13:17:27] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Yeah...the thing is that on small files it might finish as expected.
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[13:17:46] <Holger> So it works without sslh.  Then maybe do https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368#nginx
[13:17:47] <Holger> ?
[13:17:47] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Also it uploads fine.
[13:17:54] <Holger> sslh sucks.
[13:18:12] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> That's a thought yes.
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[13:21:58] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz
> git checkout tags/v4.2.0 && make dev && make dist )
Yeah because my server need 700Mb of npm+Node.js packages to build Convers.js....wtf?
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[13:22:52] <Holger> Yeah building Converse.js is fun.
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[13:25:01] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz so you remove the warning https://github.com/openspace42/aenigma/blob/master/functions#L3336
rsync the files https://github.com/openspace42/aenigma/blob/master/functions#L3346
then remove the warning again https://github.com/openspace42/aenigma/blob/master/functions#L3354
Wha?
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[13:39:21] <nz> > .e. in practice 'Connection "Upgrade"' will be fine.
great!
[13:41:07] <nz> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs] you use websocket right? is that what's failing?
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[13:43:27] <nz> only way I know to use converse entirely locally without any of their cdn assets
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[13:45:01] <oli> Holger: why does sslh suck?
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[13:45:24] <Licaon_Kter> nz:
> only way I know to use converse entirely locally without any of their cdn assets
Yes...but copy that from CDN and call it a done
[13:46:05] <nz> that would be a potential security issue with open source freaks who want to build things locally, what if their CDN was compromised? *puts tinfoil hat on*
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[13:49:33] <nz> good catch about the dual comment removal, congrats on your first issue posted and solved on aenigma! 😉
[13:50:16] <nz> Do you recommend the custom conversejs options you're using here? https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/54d4656cc753b98e1dc0d81a59a73faa
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[13:52:05] <Holger> oli: What I wrote above.  It's very bad at handling concurrent connections, which I would've thought is kinda core functionality for it.  And the code is naive towards failure cases.
[13:52:52] <oli> Holger: maybe haproxy would work, too
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[13:53:11] <Holger> No idea.
[13:53:58] <oli> it does support alpn and it does support plain tcp connections
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[14:12:54] <zinid> haproxy will work obviously, we use it to load balance millions of connections
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[14:19:53] <oli> zinid: for running xmpp and https on the same port?
[14:20:20] <zinid> no 😁
[14:21:02] <zinid> I just meant haproxy is much more reliable than sslh
[14:21:24] <zinid> but I think you can multiplex is haproxy, why not
[14:21:27] <oli> i'm sure it is
[14:21:33] <oli> more reliable
[14:21:34] <zinid> but I think you can multiplex with haproxy, why not
[14:22:17] <oli> sslh is much easier to setup for simple multiplex stuff
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[14:22:33] <oli> or config is easier to understanf
[14:22:49] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz Yes, refresh the gist as I updated index.html with XEP-0198 support (now in HEAD...soon in version 5.0 I guess)...see that .css patch has changed to dist
[14:23:06] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> *path
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> that would be a potential security issue
I wasn't paying attention, so you recommend Gentoo as a server? No...well....
[14:25:48] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> nz
> you use websocket right? is that what's failing?
The handover from sslh to nginx to ejabberd..I guess
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[15:51:49] <nz> Licaon_Kter great thanks, can i steal that?
[15:52:23] <nz> where's that fake gif about a guy losing it when installing gentoo?
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[15:53:15] <nz> > The handover from sslh to nginx to ejabberd..I guess
If it's something that you've had lingering there for some time and don't have time to look into it, I'd be happy to do so myself. I've been playing around a lot with those 3 services now.
[15:54:21] <Licaon_Kter> Don't care that much lol, will try anyway asap
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[16:39:41] <zinid> Holger, do you know what this code is doing? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_pubsub.erl#L2362
[16:39:57] <zinid> Holger, it's borked: #ps_subscription{} record required `jid` field
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[16:43:03] <zinid> > xmpp:encode(#ps_subscription{}).
** exception error: no function clause matching jid:to_string(undefined) (src/jid.erl, line 152)
     in function  xep0060:encode_pubsub_subscription_attr_jid/2 (src/xep0060.erl, line 4088)
     in call from xep0060:encode_pubsub_subscription/2 (src/xep0060.erl, line 4061)
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[20:13:01] <EmleyMoor> The admin pages of ejabberd on my system seem to be "unpopulated". The left menu contains "Virtual hosts" clicking on it shows "Host", "Registered Users", "Online Users", but there is no other data. What could be wrong?
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[20:33:05] <zinid> EmleyMoor, maybe something wrong with the web_admin ACL?
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[21:02:51] <emleymoor> Just found another thing not working since my upgrade: clients (e.g. gajim) cannot publish bookmarks to pubsub - what have I missed in my setup?
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[21:09:19] <zinid> emleymoor: compare your config with the default one in GitHub repo
[21:09:45] <zinid> mostly modules section
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[21:15:56] <emleymoor> Can't see any difference that can't be accounted for...
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[21:16:30] <emleymoor> (the only one in mod_pubsub came that way from Debian)
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[21:21:55] <rom1dep> > It's very bad at handling concurrent connections, which I would've thought is kinda core functionality for it.
Holger: using it in forking mode maybe? IIRC that's still the default on debian
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[21:34:15] <emleymoor> I really need a config valid for 18.12 that only needs me to amend my hostname, certfiles and add connections for gateways, that should leave everything else "working as intended"
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