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[07:31:03] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Use case is configurations that apply to all domains except for one. Would be nice if the global config would have to be specified only once.
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[07:32:33] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: yeah, that's what I was thinking too
[07:32:37] <Holger> zinid: I do like it from an admin perspective, I see no point in global settings overriding per-domain settings. But yes I understand why it doesn't work this way. No big deal.
[07:33:03] <zinid> Holger, I mean how is that globals overrid per-domain settings? I think this is a bug
[07:33:07] <zinid> can you show an example?
[07:33:18] <zinid> an example of the config file's snippet I mean
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[07:36:17] <Holger> ```
modules:
  mod_foo:
    something: true
append_host_config:
  "example.com":
    modules:
      mod_foo:
        something: false
```
[07:36:59] <zinid> currently it won't even work
[07:37:05] <Holger> At least in the past, this append_host_config block had no effect. I can test whether that's still the case.
[07:37:09] <Holger> Ah 🙂
[07:38:08] <zinid> ```
append_host_config:
  "domain.tld":
    modules:
      versioning: false
modules:
  mod_roster:
    versioning: true
```
[07:38:18] <zinid> Invalid value of option append_host_config->'domain.tld'->modules->versioning: expected map, got string instead
[07:38:25] <zinid> ah
[07:38:44] <zinid> weird
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[07:39:44] <zinid> ```
append_host_config:
  localhost:
    modules:
      mod_roster:
        versioning: false
modules:
  mod_roster:
    versioning: true
```
Invalid value of option modules: duplicated option: mod_roster
[07:40:09] <Holger> Ah.
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[07:41:33] <zinid> and you suggest what? I don't understand how to do that, write a special code for `modules` option only?
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[07:41:57] <zinid> and by the way I think `shaper` cannot be defined in (append_)host_config
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[07:42:29] <zinid> > Same for acl/access/shaper_rules
I, you said about shaper_rules, okay
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[07:43:31] <zinid> Holger, a few days ago we spent several hours try to understand (in production) why the option doesn't have an effect, then we realized it was redefined in some include file
[07:45:03] <Holger> zinid: Yes just keep it that way. I wasn't complaining, just asking whether it still works this way.
[07:45:06] <zinid> and that's the situation I would like to avoid in the future...
[07:45:46] <zinid> do you have a problem? I mean can you somehow rewrite the config?
[07:45:53] <Holger> And the proper error message is way better than the previous behavior where my append_host_config block was silently ignored, of course.
[07:46:29] <Holger> I can rewrite it, I just end up with potentially a lot duplication.
[07:46:44] <zinid> Holger, yes, except that I predict the admins' anger: "why this fucking shit doesn't start after upgrade, it used to work!!!111"
[07:47:03] <zinid> Holger, why duplications? Can't you use macros?
[07:47:19] <zinid> also, I can make it possible to use `include_config_file` in any place
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[07:47:35] <Holger> As I need to specify the mod_foo config for each and every domain as soon as one domain needs an exception. But yes macros help a bit.
[07:47:46] <Holger> Or that.
[07:48:04] <zinid> I mean
```
foo:
  include_config_file: "file.yml"
```
file.yml:
```
bar: baz
```
[07:48:29] <zinid> so this will result in:
```
foo:
  bar: baz
```
[07:48:32] <zinid> will it help?
[07:48:50] <zinid> ah, probably not, with redefinitions...
[07:50:12] <zinid> another way is to allow redefinitions, but generate a warning
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[10:26:14] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> zinid .136 any command...
> sudo -u ejabberd ejabberdctl status
```
{"init terminating in do_boot",{undef,[{ejabberd_cluster,call,['ejabberd@localhost',ejabberd_ctl,process,[["status"]],60000],[]},{ejabberd_ctl,start,0,[{file,"src/ejabberd_ctl.erl"},{line,95}]},{init,start_em,1,[]},{init,do_boot,3,[]}]}}
init terminating in do_boot ({undef,[{ejabberd_cluster,call,[ejabberd@localhost,ejabberd_ctl,process,[_],60000],[]},{ejabberd_ctl,start,0,[{_},{_}]},{init,start_em,1,[]},{init,do_boot,3,[]}]})
Crash dump is being written to: ...
```
Fixed in https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/53dacb382590ec9fc350c18754c04aa822bbaadf I guess?
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[10:41:07] <zinid> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], yes, I know
[10:41:13] <zinid> are you updating every minute? 🙂
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[10:56:03] <pme> zinid: pssst Licaon_Kter [cnvrs] is a very smart build bot :-D
[11:00:14] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> 5mins to update on the RPi1 so...no...not yet :))
[11:00:43] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Anyway, this happens on .137 which you asked me to test the language loading with
[11:01:27] <zinid> nah, you commit history is borked 🙂
[11:01:32] <zinid> you just compiled HEAD
[11:01:56] <zinid> and head is 126
[11:02:19] <zinid> !version zinid.ru
[11:02:20] <Servant> zinid.ru is running ejabberd version 19.05.130.
[11:02:21] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> I've re-cloned already when your head was older...WTF is going on?
[11:02:30] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Wait...
[11:02:32] <zinid> ah, so it's my history is broken
[11:02:54] <zinid> no idea why this is happening
[11:04:24] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Ok, no... .137 is ok....or at least ok in my cloned repo...
[11:05:22] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> HEAD is .140 now...brb
[11:05:50] <zinid> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], I already pushed the fix
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[11:08:44] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> > git describe --tags 2>/dev/null | sed 's/-g.*//;s/-/./'
```
19.05.142
```
HEAD
[11:09:15] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Will restart later and confirm
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[11:51:34] <Licaon_Kter> ```
Updating base64url from {pkg,base64url}
ERROR: 'update-deps' failed while processing /home/pi/ejabberd: {'EXIT',{function_c
lause,[{rebar_deps,source_engine_avail,
                                      [pkg,{pkg,base64url}],
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,783}]},
                          {rebar_deps,require_source_engine,1,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,462}]},
                          {rebar_deps,update_source,2,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,651}]},
                          {rebar_deps,'-update_deps_int/2-lc$^0/1-0-',3,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,707}]},
                          {rebar_deps,update_deps_int,2,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,707}]},
                          {rebar_deps,'-update_deps_int/2-fun-0-',3,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,737}]},
                          {lists,foldl,3,[{file,"lists.erl"},{line,1263}]},
                          {rebar_deps,'update-deps',2,
                                      [{file,"src/rebar_deps.erl"},
                                       {line,197}]}]}}
make: *** [Makefile:117: update] Error 1
```
HEAD fails to build
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[14:08:19] <Holger> I think I would just close #2924.
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[14:11:23] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Works for me, FWIW.
[14:11:26] <Holger> Pulling base64url from {git,"git://github.com/dvv/base64url.git",
                            {branch,"master"}}
Cloning into 'base64url'...
==> base64url (get-deps)
[14:13:36] <Licaon_Kter> Fixed in head already
[14:13:54] <Holger> Ah.
[14:13:58] <Licaon_Kter> That was with the jose update
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[14:15:42] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 19.05.144-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
[14:15:54] <zinid> yeah, this jose crap, for JWT support
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[16:04:03] <admin> help
[16:04:39] <Licaon_Kter> admin: take this life boat
[16:05:44] <admin> licaon honey I am not drowning
[16:05:49] <admin> but my server is
[16:05:49] <Licaon_Kter> admin:
> how can I configure my ejabberd server that will allow user to make permanent chatroom with limited user
> i tried default muc  options
[16:06:19] <admin> yes
[16:06:29] <admin> call me Shawn
[16:06:38] <admin> my server is chathut.xyz
[16:06:47] <Licaon_Kter> What does permanent mean? What does limited user mean?
[16:07:11] <admin> permanent means chatroom will be permanent
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[16:07:34] <admin> default mod muc option dont have it
[16:07:49] <admin> limited user means a number of user will be allowed in muc
[16:07:58] <admin> like 20 or 30
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[16:10:41] <Licaon_Kter> admin:
> call me Shawn
Call yourself, edit your nick
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[16:11:37] <admin>   mod_muc:     access: muc_access     access_create: muc_admin     default_room_options:       allow_change_subj: false       allow_query_users: true       allow_private_messages: true       members_by_default: false       presence_broadcast: [visitor, moderator]       title: "New chatroom"       anonymous: false     access_admin: muc_admi
[16:11:43] <admin> how it doesn't work
[16:12:06] <admin> i added this module from web admin
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[16:14:07] <admin> :'-(
[16:15:06] <Licaon_Kter> What's the problem with the defaults?
[16:16:03] <admin> It can't permanent chatroom
[16:16:21] <admin> when creator leave the room its gone destroyed
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[16:17:53] <Licaon_Kter> Leave as in close the client?
[16:18:31] <admin> yes
[16:18:40] <lee> admin: the creator has to mark room as permanent otherwise it will be destroyed, the config on ejabberd permits rooms to be permanent but creators need to do there part
[16:19:24] <Licaon_Kter> admin: eg. Rooms created in Conversations are fine, but if you mangle the room settings in Gajim maybe you shoot yourself in the foot
[16:19:27] <lee> admin: otherwise server would eventually run out of resources if all rooms were never destroyed
[16:20:46] <admin> i tried to configure it through psi
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[16:21:09] <lee> admin: on gajim and psi you have options to set room title and other stuff including permanent
[16:21:41] <admin> make room make persistent
[16:21:59] <admin> when i click on apply it makes no change even its not closing the window
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[16:23:58] <lee> admin: register temp account on another server like conversations.im and try from clients there to understand process, then return to your own server and try again - if it fails then ejabberd config issue not client nor creator issue
[16:25:37] <admin> try to find the room chatroom@conference.chat.xyz
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[16:43:00] <admin> lee
[16:43:07] <admin> i fixed it
[16:43:11] <admin> one more issue
[16:43:32] <admin> how can I backup and restore entire ejabberd server?
[16:44:03] <lee> admin‎: woohoo  😅
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[16:44:41] <admin> like i want to transfer my existing configure and added user all other data another vps
[16:44:53] <admin> is it possible?
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[16:46:09] <lee> admin‎: yes possible, it involves a few steps: 1) extract ejabberd config see https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-api/#backup , 2) backup message store database depending on which one you selected during install
[16:47:03] <lee> admin‎: external SSL certificates and keys will also need separate backup
[16:47:20] <lee> admin: was ejabberd installed to virtual machine or bare metal?
[16:48:38] <lee> admin: if was to virtual machine then you can backup the entire machine even while its running (I have script example available)
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[16:51:29] <admin> lee for me its difficult to understand
[16:52:09] <lee> admin‎: what did you put ejabberd on - what hardware - real or virtual?
[16:52:18] <Licaon_Kter> admin: default database or postgres/mysql?
[16:52:25] <admin> virtual
[16:52:38] <admin> vps (deb8)
[16:52:47] <admin> default
[16:52:56] <admin> I didn't make any change
[16:53:17] <admin> beside i dont know how to make this advance level table
[16:53:24] <lee> admin‎: :( vps
[16:53:32] <admin> yes
[16:53:36] <admin> free trial vps
[16:53:42] <lee> admin‎: so a vps not a kvm ?
[16:53:45] <admin> just for testing
[16:54:21] <admin> its a kvm
[16:54:33] <admin> cloud debian 8 server
[16:54:55] <admin> https://zrh.cloudsigma.com/ui/4.0/novnc/vnc_auto.html?host=zrh.cloudsigma.com&port=443&true_color=true&path=vnc/7dd1546b-9b20-4fd4-88c5-2071989c06b4/&password=mafuhozaba
[16:55:02] <admin> click on that link lee
[16:55:12] <lee> admin‎: ok then follow manual step - perhaps you can migrate from vps to new host when ready - see https://www.ejabberd.im/migrate-host/index.html
[16:55:56] <admin> you can chk my vps
[16:57:53] <admin> cant i directly copy that backup folder from my current serve
[16:58:23] <admin> and then i will zip and after that i will transfer to new host in same direction
[17:00:21] <lee> admin: if you just need config and ssl certificates then yes should be okay - you will not keep messages or users that way
[17:00:36] <admin> They shut down Nimbuzz ! many users requesting me to make an app like nimbuzz :(
[17:01:04] <admin> i need users too
[17:01:19] <admin> leave config
[17:01:23] <admin> it can be edited
[17:01:26] <admin> but users
[17:01:39] <admin> i dont understand erlang
[17:02:07] <admin> maybe i can but i wont lose my brain anymore
[17:02:16] <admin> :'-(
[17:02:39] <admin> so nevermind config and other stuffs
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[17:02:59] <admin> user and chatroom databse is important
[17:03:03] <lee> admin‎: config via https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-api/#backup should include users but not messages
[17:03:21] <lee> admin: if so important why put on vps only to migrate?
[17:03:44] <admin> look I need to learn
[17:03:52] <admin> if i get some issue in my machine
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[17:04:08] <admin> maybe I have transfer it into a new one
[17:04:20] <admin> so I have to be educated first
[17:04:32] <admin> I can buy one year vps pack
[17:05:08] <admin> running on my pc it wld create a mess beside im a microsoftie
[17:05:45] <admin> playing with linux is not my forte
[17:06:32] <lee> admin‎: erlang is not linux but I understand
[17:06:55] <admin> ikr
[17:07:02] <admin> unix is linux
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[17:09:59] <admin> =-O
[17:10:33] <lee> admin: no unix is not linux either - unix is like Solaris, HP-UX, NetBSD/FreeBSD, Xenix, IRIX, macOS, AIX
[17:11:40] <lee> admin‎: linux is like Red Hat, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, Mint, Oracle Linux, Scientific Linux
[17:11:55] <lee> admin: but close enough ;)
[17:15:12] <admin> then what linux is?
[17:15:16] <admin> python
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[17:16:30] <admin> i am learning everyday
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[17:16:59] <admin> at least now i can create muc from my server . i can kick ban moderate participants
[17:17:19] <admin> yesterday I was asking to u for these
[17:17:28] <admin> thank you a lots Sir lee.
[17:18:08] <lee> admin:linux is linux - particular type of operating system - Linux is the kernel used by Ubuntu/Debian/CentOS etc, and have architecture but different user applications etc.
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[17:18:35] <admin> i see!
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[17:19:02] <admin> which gui is best and light?
[17:19:06] <admin> xfce?
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[17:21:11] <lee> admin‎: xfce or LXDE but some also say MATE
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[17:22:29] <admin> i mistakely installed gnome and now I am suffering
[17:23:01] <admin> since my server cloud based it gets stuck due to midlevel internet speed
[17:23:45] <admin> lee do you work for ejabberd?
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[17:24:22] <lee> admin: ejabberd community project, led by Process-One who provide enterprise edition and lots of extra features - and no I do not work for ejabberd
[17:25:10] <lee> admin: you can install xfce and remove gnome
[17:25:41] <admin> I will do that! thanks
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[17:26:37] <lee> admin: on ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ; reboot; sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop && sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell
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[17:26:48] <admin> lee is it possible to update a xmpp server with muc boosting? virtual coin to be premium user
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[17:26:56] <lee> admin: but google/bing can be your friend
[17:27:23] <lee> admin: boosting? from temp room to permanent room?
[17:27:24] <admin> and premium user will not be shown ads, color id
[17:27:40] <admin> for popular room
[17:27:52] <admin> for that I have to work on client or server?
[17:28:10] <admin> Nimbuzz had these features
[17:29:02] <admin> on ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ; reboot; sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop && sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell@@ thanks alot
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[17:29:17] <lee> admin: all possible but ejabberd is the platform providing XMPP not money maker
[17:29:35] <admin> :D
[17:29:51] <lee> admin: there may be extra plugins for ejabberd from community to help free/premium features but ads. color you will have to add yourslef
[17:30:37] <admin> every  im has these features
[17:30:50] <admin> literally they are making money
[17:32:08] <marevalo> > They shut down Nimbuzz ! many users requesting me to make an app like nimbuzz :(
Time to create newbuzz.im :-)
[17:32:39] <admin> marevalo no
[17:32:46] <lee> admin: good luck
[17:32:46] <admin> chathut.xyz
[17:33:07] <admin> I already created that im :D
[17:33:21] <admin> it will replace Nimbuzz
[17:33:39] <mrDoctorWho> Nimbuzz still alive?
[17:34:02] <admin> its dead
[17:34:35] <admin> don't mock Nimbuzz
[17:34:43] <admin> they made ejabberd famous
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[17:35:07] <lee> admin: ejabberd was famous anyway - just not to the general public
[17:35:21] <admin> lee i see!
[17:35:46] <lee> admin: and is used in commercial companies, game studios and other chat systems without people knowing or seeing ejabberd - hidden secrets...
[17:35:54] <admin> backend is not for general public
[17:36:08] <admin> yeah
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[17:36:18] <admin> :D
[17:36:24] <admin> fortnite?
[17:36:43] <admin> seems they have made their own server
[17:37:03] <marevalo> I think there's no orange Conversations fork... At least the colour is free }:)
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[17:38:03] <admin> marevalo i didnt get u sir
[17:41:25] <marevalo> Old style XMPP humor...
[17:41:53] <admin> Ok :)
[17:42:10] <admin> mare where are u from?
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[17:44:27] <admin> where everyone using  Conversations 2.5.3+fcr but not xabber
[17:45:31] <lee> admin: personal choice but conversations better for most people with omemo encryption
[17:48:21] <marevalo> And without OMEMO...
[17:49:04] <marevalo> admin: just please federate your service with the global XMPP network...
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[17:51:12] <admin> lee do you work for ejabberd?
[17:51:19] <admin> share me ur linkedin
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[18:18:13] <Licaon_Kter> marevalo:
> I think there's no orange Conversations fork... At least the colour is free }:)
_Convursations IPv6_ is orange iirc
[18:19:04] <marevalo> Licaon_Kter: oh my god, it's full of forks...
[18:22:07] <lee> admin: I do not work for Process One, not part of ejabberd development community either
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[20:55:18] <Licaon_Kter> Stop command used 1 core at 100% for 10 minutes...wtf... With .137
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[20:57:06] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: funny
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[20:57:21] <Licaon_Kter> Ok, restarted, but now status command just sits there
[20:57:30] <zinid> probably coincidence
[20:57:38] <zinid> ah
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[20:58:07] <Licaon_Kter> In debug how do I print what version I have?
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[21:00:49] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: ejabber_option:version().
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[21:01:00] <zinid> *d
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[21:01:26] <Licaon_Kter> In theory I'm on HEAD .144
[21:01:56] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: I cannot help today as I am AFK, tomorrow only
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[21:03:26] <Licaon_Kter> No worries, the server works, just that `ejabberdctl` looks b0rken
Eg. `reload_config` doesn't do anything either, no errors in logs either
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[21:04:33] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: reload_config should at least report in the log about the config being reloaded
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[21:06:13] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im:5444/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/O6nTC45B4MFpnpo02jy8vqwdz39qY9YrNjFptD0D/seyF1e4aTbGPCm9wN4A1Lw.jpg
[21:06:45] <zinid> meh
[21:06:49] <zinid> some shit
[21:07:06] <zinid> wonder what commit has borked that
[21:07:58] <Licaon_Kter> Your .137 or older
[21:08:11] <Licaon_Kter> Brb git bisect to the rescue
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