Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, July 16, 2019< ^ >
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[11:45:30] <rom1dep> > /opt/ejabberd/sbin/ejabberdctl reload-config
> Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@localhost: nodedown
If I'm indeed here, I doubt the node is down. How can I reload my conf?
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[11:49:07] <Licaon_Kter> Cookie permission issue?
Running as sudo or?
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[12:05:53] <Holger> And is `ejabberd@localhost` the correct node name? (You'll find it with `ps` on the `beam.smp` command line.)
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[12:36:28] <rom1dep> Holger: ejabberd@localhost seems the right name as it's just next to -sname in the command that ran it
[12:36:47] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: tried first as ejabberd user, then as root
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[12:46:34] <Holger> The remaining usual issues would be `$HOME/.erlang.cookie` (note ejabberdctl might perform an `su`) not matching ejabberd's or epmd not running (or restarted since ejabberd was started) or some packet filter or whatever denying the TCP access to epmd and/or the ejabberd VM.
[12:46:55] <Holger> (Can't post debugging commands as I'm on my phone.)
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[12:54:48] <rom1dep> > $ ll $HOME/.erlang.cookie
> -r--------. 1 ejabberd ejabberd 20 janv. 12  2018 /home/ejabberd/.erlang.cookie
[12:55:05] <rom1dep> date seems old :)
[12:55:38] <rom1dep> > # ll /root/.erlang.cookie    
> -r--------. 1 root root 20 déc.   1  2017 /root/.erlang.cookie
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[13:29:27] <Freyskeyd> Hello, I have some issue with mod_bosh, sometimes the stream:features aren't sent to the client, do you know any reason that i'm missing?
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[13:33:12] <Amolith> I just realised that ejabberd is on version 19.05 and I'm all the way back on 18.12. I should go 18.12 > 19.02 > 19.05, correct?
[13:33:38] <Alacer> Amolith: Wait for 1907... Better ...
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[13:36:43] <Holger> Amolith: You just update to 19.05 directly. If you use SQL, check the following page and go through the changes for both versions: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/#specific-version-upgrade-notes
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[13:39:01] <Holger> With 19.07 the risk of running into new bugs might be a bit higher as it brings somewhat invasive changes, so it's not necessarily "better" for production setups.
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[13:40:52] <Amolith> Holger, Ok ok. I've run into issues skipping releases in the past so wanted to make sure I wouldn't here. What are some of the changes with 19.07?
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[13:42:21] <Holger> The thing I had in mind was a new config parser. So not much user visible if your config is correct 🙂
[13:43:02] <Amolith> Haha I'm pretty sure mine is good 😉
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[13:44:44] <Holger> And no I really don't see how the additional hop via 19.02 could avoid any issues. Might've been that way in the past for certain versions, esp. with Mnesia.
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[13:50:47] <Amolith> I mean with other applications. I hadn't tried it with ejabberd yet
[13:51:10] <Holger> Ah.
[13:51:20] <Amolith> Namely Mastodon lol. I skipped a single version and nearly broke everything 😅
[13:51:35] <Holger> \o/
[13:52:10] <Amolith> Nearly though. I did end up getting it fixed
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[13:54:13] <Holger> Freyskeyd: And it's not just networking issues?
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[14:16:50] <rom1dep> wowh, indeed, the number of changes is significant for 19.07
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[14:20:59] <Freyskeyd> @Holger no it's not :x
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[14:48:19] <zinid> rom1dep, the number of bugs will be probably the same 😀
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[17:51:21] <zinid> lee, are you from Amdocs?
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[17:52:45] <zinid> Matrix team was sponsored by Amdocs, IIRC 🙂
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[17:55:33] <reset> Is 19.07 out/stable/released? Hmm
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[18:16:42] <lee> zinid: yes division of Amdocs called Open Networks
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[18:19:18] <zinid> reset, no
[18:19:38] <reset> Uh
[18:19:48] <zinid> lee, just strange to see someone from Amdocs using XMPP 😛
[18:20:35] <reset> zinid: he's a spy
[18:20:58] <lee> zinid: before my time and Amdocs only funded between 2015-2017: In 2015 a subsidiary of Amdocs was created, named "Vector Creations Limited", and the Matrix Staff was moved there.[11]
In July 2017 the funding by Amdocs was announced to be cut and in the following weeks the core team created their own UK-based company, "New Vector"[12], which was mainly built to support Matrix and Riot development
[18:21:37] <zinid> lee, yeah, I'm kinda aware 🙂
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[18:21:45] <zinid> now Amdocs is not interested in Matrix?
[18:21:57] <lee> Xmpp craving came from early days of Jabber (bought by Cisco and of course known as WebEx)
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[18:25:19] <lee> For me it's its XMPP or there is the door. Regarding Amdocs and Matrix not part of my division but considering I joined them in 2017 I have heard zip in over 2 years i. E. Dead/gone/forgotten
[18:25:36] <zinid> I see
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[18:27:39] <lee> So many different protocols have sprung from XMPP concepts, all bad or just broken like Facebook continued use of XMPP is non standard, same for Google (heard of firebase etc) and twitter just dropped it as was too open for their business model
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[18:34:32] <lee> zinid: majority of public just want "swipe left" style of interface and have no need to understand or use the raw power of XMPP
[18:35:19] <zinid> the majority (if we're talking about modern "programmers") want REST API, lol
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[18:42:38] <lee> Yes REST is good but is not a protocol, it's just an API mechanism
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[18:44:11] <lee> I have wrapped XMPP transports too many times with Restful APIs to m2m integrations...
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[20:50:53] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/2171abf5aeb84b04c26c86a1725027fa7ed48919
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