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[06:24:49] <EmleyMoor> Is there a way to make a substitution on all the nicknames in my roster? e.g. I want to replace the characters (F) with (FB) throughout
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[09:24:53] <jonny> Hi,
When I want to create a second Cluster for a running ejabberd
should I copy the ssl certificates over to the new instance? sothat the config can be exactly the same?
[09:25:31] <prefiks> in general yes
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[09:29:10] <zinid> jonny, it's highly recommended to keep the config the same on all nodes in the cluster
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[09:30:45] <jonny> so then you MUST copy the ssl certificates when you've used letsencrypt...
[09:31:01] <Licaon_Kter> jonny: rsync FTW
[09:31:05] <jonny> because you can't validate the Domains on the second instaqnce right?
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[09:31:14] <jonny> yep
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[09:49:30] <EmleyMoor> Any suggestions as to how I might do a "find and replace" in all the nicknames in my roster?
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[09:53:19] <Licaon_Kter> EmleyMoor: what db?
[09:53:26] <Holger> EmleyMoor: Assuming you're using SQL, easiest is probably editing the 'nick' column of the 'rosterusers' table directly (and then call `ejabberdctl clear_cache`).
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[09:54:16] <EmleyMoor> Er... whatever-would-be-the-norm... in any case I'll probably need further guidance
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[09:54:46] <Holger> If you didn't explicitly configure SQL you're using Erlang's built-in DB, Mnesia.
[09:55:01] <Holger> And switching to SQL would be a good idea regardless of your current issue ;-)
[09:55:53] <EmleyMoor> Assume Mnesia - and if switching to SQL is a good idea then a walkthrough would be appreciated
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[09:57:42] <EmleyMoor> https://www.ejabberd.im/forum/28980/migrate-mnesia-sqlserver/index.html adequate?
[09:57:46] <Holger> EmleyMoor: The main issue with Mnesia is that it's not designed for persistent storage of non-trivial amounts of data.  E.g. there's a 2 GB limit on the MAM table.  Switching might make sense especially if you might run into that one day.  Otherwise, I could also try to walk you through editing Mnesia's roster table.  But not now.
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[10:00:38] <EmleyMoor> I'm using a packaged ejabberd - how can I tell if it has MySQL support?
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[10:03:29] <Holger> Well worst case would be having to install an additional package.  E.g. Debian splits things up and you'd need `erlang-p1-pgsql` or `erlang-p1-mysql`.
[10:03:41] <EmleyMoor> Hmmm... mariadb suitable?
[10:03:45] <Holger> Yes.
[10:04:09] <Holger> EmleyMoor: As an alternative, if you ever wanted to look into XMPP programming, editing the roster might be a nice little project :-)
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[10:04:23] <Holger> Should be quite easy with e.g. https://docs.zombofant.net/aioxmpp/devel/api/public/roster.html?highlight=rosterclient#aioxmpp.RosterClient ...
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[10:58:21] <EmleyMoor> This has mostly worked but my roster appears to have vanished. Unless it's still tucked away in Mnesia somewhere, of course. If it is, how do I get in into mariadbL
[10:58:22] <EmleyMoor> ?
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[11:02:16] <zinid> what was worked?
[11:02:52] <EmleyMoor> That which I was discussing not so many minutes ago... migrating from mnesia to mariadb
[11:03:10] <zinid> I understand that, which way you choose?
[11:03:25] <EmleyMoor> Er, THE way.
[11:03:32] <zinid> I see
[11:03:48] <zinid> have fun then
[11:03:53] <EmleyMoor> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/databases/mysql/
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[11:04:40] <EmleyMoor> (I can't refer you to what was discussed some moments ago as it appears to have been destroyed at my end
[11:05:25] <zinid> but did you run export?
[11:06:42] <Holger> EmleyMoor, note you need to configure SQL _before_ running the export.  That's kinda unintuitive I guess.
[11:06:56] <zinid> really?
[11:07:06] <zinid> I don't think so if you export to a file
[11:07:11] <zinid> I believe I fixed that
[11:07:24] <Holger> Ah k, well it definitely _was_ that way.
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[11:07:36] <Holger> How do you decide what SQL engine to export for?
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[11:08:24] <EmleyMoor> Holger, Assuming that wasn't done right, is my roster lost or is it something I could recover from backups?
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[11:08:58] <Holger> EmleyMoor, unless you removed the Mnesia files, you can just revert the config to Mnesia and everything should be back.
[11:09:44] <zinid> EmleyMoor, what Holger said: just change default_db back to 'mnesia'
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[11:09:56] <Holger> zinid, ah, or is the SQL syntax generic.
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[11:11:15] <zinid> I think it's generic, but honestly we need to export in to CSV, because importing CSV in mysql/psql/sqlite is orders of magnitude faster
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[11:13:51] <EmleyMoor> Hmmm... no apparent change. Which files do I need to roll back to last night?
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[11:14:37] <Holger> EmleyMoor: The Debian-based distros put them into /var/lib/ejabberd.  If you didn't touch them it's probably some config issue.
[11:14:55] <zinid> what ejabberd version?
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[11:18:48] <EmleyMoor> Looks like it is beginning to come back. Now, how, for sure, do I transfer it to mariadb?
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[11:23:58] <zinid> ejabberdctl export2sql domain.com /tmp/ejabberd.sql
[11:25:31] <EmleyMoor> No file generated
[11:25:43] <zinid> any errors in the logs?
[11:26:03] <zinid> also, again, what ejabberd version?
[11:26:53] <EmleyMoor> No obvious errors in logs
[11:27:07] <EmleyMoor> 18.12.1
[11:27:20] <Holger> `systemctl cat ejabberd|fgrep -i tmp`
[11:28:06] <zinid> what means obvious? there shouldn't be any errors
[11:28:10] <EmleyMoor> PrivateTmp=true
[11:28:17] <Holger> That's the problem.  Try dumping to `/var/lib/ejabberd/dump.sql`.
[11:28:26] <EmleyMoor> zinid, If they are errors they are not obviously so
[11:28:39] <zinid> EmleyMoor, errors are in error.log
[11:28:52] <Holger> Anybody reads my messages? 🙂
[11:28:58] <zinid> I read, yes
[11:29:44] <EmleyMoor> OK, got it
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[11:30:27] <zinid> I recently played with ejabberctl and wow, that's pure shit. I don't know how admins are using it, it's fucking shame to have such poorly written piece of software
[11:30:29] <Holger> Do we export to old/new schema?
[11:30:41] <zinid> no input check, no error checks, no error reporting
[11:31:36] <Holger> Yes it's crap.  You do get errors returned by the ejabberd calls though.  If they do return errors.
[11:32:47] <EmleyMoor> So, now I need to load this in...
[11:33:04] <Holger> EmleyMoor, first you need to import the schema.
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[11:33:17] <EmleyMoor> Holger, That's already done
[11:33:20] <Holger> Question is, which one!  (Hence my question above.)
[11:33:27] <Holger> Ah.  Hope you got the right one :-)
[11:34:04] <EmleyMoor> That which was supplied with my package. Only mysql.sql file on the entire system
[11:35:55] <EmleyMoor> ...
[11:36:15] <Holger> Probably fine.  I have no time to check things right now, sorry.
[11:36:30] <zinid> Holger: and it's exporting to which schema format? the new one? 😁
[11:36:46] <Holger> Dunno, I asked above.
[11:36:58] <zinid> okay
[11:37:07] <Holger> It's using the SQL macros so probably depends on config?
[11:37:40] <zinid> dunno 😀
[11:37:53] <zinid> I am AFK, cannot check
[11:37:56] <Holger> So it might make sense to suggest specifying `new_sql_schema: true` before the export.
[11:38:31] <Holger> zinid: I met the Tigase guy on Tuesday BTW, and one of the things he was proud of was that Tigase uses separate DBs per host ;-)
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[11:38:49] <Holger> "I believe no other server does that."
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[11:39:30] <zinid> Holger: did you ask him what to do with the tables that don't depend on a virtual host?
[11:39:43] EmleyMoor is trying to import the data now... and has crossed everything
[11:39:50] <Holger> Reasonings were easier load balancing, easier ditching of a vhost, stuff like that.
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[11:40:10] <Holger> zinid: Don't we just have those for SQL being used as a *memory* DB backend?
[11:40:26] <Holger> zinid: But yes I remember you mentioning that as one reason for the schema change.
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[11:40:52] <zinid> Holger: yes, but probably in a few other places
[11:41:18] <Holger> If we have actual persistent data that's not host-specific then I see the problem, yes.
[11:41:29] <zinid> also sometimes you need to perform an SQL query across all hosts
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[11:41:57] <EmleyMoor> At least I don't have the tail of a cat getting under my fingers at the moment
[11:42:02] <Holger> If we don't then I guess admins could still configure host-specific `sql_database` via host_config?
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[11:42:21] <Holger> If we do such things will obviously break, yes.
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[11:48:04] <EmleyMoor> It's taking a while but I'm not surprised
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[11:48:29] <Holger> Unless you have tons of data it shouldn't really take long.
[11:48:44] <Holger> But I'm AFK for a while as well now.
[11:49:50] <EmleyMoor> Is there any way to make the importing "verbose"?
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[11:53:01] <EmleyMoor> Nearly a 17 meg dump file
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[13:10:53] <EmleyMoor> After updating nicks in my roster, how do I make the changes take effect in ejabberd?
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[13:11:36] <Holger> How did you update the nicks?
[13:11:46] <EmleyMoor> Holger: Directly in the database
[13:11:52] <Holger> `ejabberdctl clear-cache`, and reconnect your clients.
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[16:46:59] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/3f7d9e3ad6e63b43da5670090c8f72329f536f3e
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[16:49:37] <Licaon_Kter> 19.07 will be huge
[16:50:35] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, by the way, I found there is no Romanian translation in ejabberd, shame on you
[16:50:35] <Holger> RIP, Riak.
[16:51:03] <Holger> He's just afraid that'll make his startup time even worse.
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[17:00:38] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: FU
[17:01:16] <Licaon_Kter> Looks like I need to buy the .ro domains for xmpp and jabber to make that a worthy investmentwin my time to translate.
[17:01:32] <Licaon_Kter> Those are, misteriously, not yet taken....go figure...
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[17:03:21] <zinid> they are probably doomed
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[17:33:41] <zinid> Holger, will you have some time to look at mod_stream_mgmt/mod_push options? I changed ejabberd to accept flexible timeout in all options except the ones in your module. Basically you need to set econf:timeout/1 and get rid of timer:seconds(), but it's a bit tricky for me, and easy to fuck up because that's not my code and there is some interaction betweem mod_stream_mgmt and mod_push
[17:34:25] <Holger> zinid: Yes okay I'll look.
[17:36:03] <zinid> thanks
[17:36:27] <zinid> if you're not gonna make it by 19.07 release, let me know, I'll handle it myself
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[18:41:55] <Holger> zinid: Ok.
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