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ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[06:36:49] <Holger> marc: Yes resumption is faster, though I'm not sure that matters much to the end user.  I doubt it's a measurable difference on the battery but I don't know.
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[06:39:45] <Holger> marc: Main advantage in practice I see is that this makes sure (mobile) clients remain joined to rooms, which means that groupchat notifications continue to trigger push notifications.  Which is why mod_push_keepalive bumps up the resumption timeout to some large value for push clients specifically.  (And then resets it to the normal timeout once a push notification was triggered.)
[06:40:08] <Holger> MIX (and/or MUC-Push) will make this unnecessary.
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[07:01:10] <marc> Holger: ah, interesting
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[11:02:55] <Holger> !version messaging.one
[11:02:56] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 19.05.200-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
[11:02:58] <Holger> 200!
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[11:41:58] <zinid> !version zinid.ru
[11:41:59] <Servant> zinid.ru is running ejabberd version 19.05.200.
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[11:42:07] <zinid> ohoho
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[13:17:00] <jonny> is it possible in ejabberd to create link previews when they are posted? e.g. like in telegram
[13:18:07] <jonny> ....or is it a client feature?
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[13:19:26] <Holger> Client feature.
[13:19:39] <Holger> ChatSecure does that, for example.
[13:19:50] <jonny> ah does it work with xmpp?
[13:20:16] <jonny> using conversations on phone, but it seems it has not that feature..
[13:20:32] <Holger> How's that related to XMPP?  The client checks the message for URLs, queries them and shows you something.
[13:20:36] <Holger> Unless I misunderstood you.
[13:20:42] <Holger> Right, Conversations doesn't do this.
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[13:23:03] <jonny> yep right
[13:23:12] <jonny> so I'll try chatsecure :)
[13:23:36] <jonny> I meant does chatsecure speak xmpp
[13:24:22] <Holger> Yes.
[13:24:36] <Holger> ChatSecure is an iOS client, though.
[13:24:44] <jonny> aah using android only
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[13:24:55] <jonny> no apple crap in my family :)
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[13:24:59] <Holger> And Conversations is way better in most other regards anyway 🙂
[13:25:15] <jonny> yes it's the only feature I really noticed missing
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[14:36:27] <Alacer> jonny: You can use PiX-Art based on Conversations and it has this feature...
[14:36:44] <jonny> Cool thx
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[14:37:17] <Alacer> Its available both in Play Store and Fdroid
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[14:38:20] <j.r> Holger: but generating the preview on server side makes some kind of sense because of IP leaking and so...
[14:38:42] <j.r> But it will require a XEP to do this...
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[14:40:19] <Holger> Hmm, not sure, different clients might want differently formatted previews and so on.
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[14:41:13] <Alacer> j.r: what about s2s Comm abd certificates Compatibility from an XMPP server to a Web Server
[14:41:15] <j.r> Holger: isn't there this preview standard to define what will be shown in a preview card defined by the HTML of the site?
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[14:41:32] <j.r> > j.r: what about s2s Comm abd certificates Compatibility from an XMPP server to a Web Server
Alacer: I don't understand
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[14:41:49] <Holger> j.r: I'd think an HTTP proxy would be better to hide IP addresses.  Could be service-discovered by the client and also used for HTTP upload.  Because we don't have enough full-blown non-XMPP services in ejabberd already 🙂
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[14:41:58] <Holger> j.r: Ah, wasn't aware.
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[14:42:57] <j.r> > j.r: I'd think an HTTP proxy would be better to hide IP addresses.  Could be service-discovered by the client and also used for HTTP upload.  Because we don't have enough full-blown non-XMPP services in ejabberd already 🙂
That would also be an option.... but I think it would also require some kind of XEP...
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[14:44:37] <Alacer> j.r: Well for Web Link preview through server as Holger said a Web Proxy may be required and what about https link or links with files etc... So Client approach has a disadvantage of exposing IP which could be catered using lets say TOR but Server side will be a little complicated...
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[14:47:47] <j.r> Alacer: yeah that's why meant preview generation by server... but that will not work with e2e... so the best would be providing a proxy by the server...
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[14:49:23] <Holger> > but I think it would also require some kind of XEP...
Yes, but a very trivial one for the service discovery.
[14:49:34] <j.r> > Yes, but a very trivial one for the service discovery.
Yeah
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[16:41:49] <Alacer> When 1907 is expected to release?? Thx
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[16:58:12] <zinid> Alacer: no idea, the situation is a bit complicated
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