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[08:41:33] <jonny> Is it normal that the  postgresql table muc_room is not synced between nodes in a cluster?
If the room didn't exist before, it is only created in the db where the user is connected to
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[09:01:22] <Holger> jonny: ejabberd never syncs data across different SQL instances.
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[09:02:53] <Holger> I.e. this would have to be set up on the SQL side.
[09:02:55] <jonny> So I guess I shouldn't have them connected to separate postgresql db's right?
... Beginning to understand why clustering over wan is bad 🙂
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[09:03:53] <jonny> Or should I just manually sync to slave nodes via cron?
[09:04:34] <jonny> Or what your mentioned
[09:04:52] <jonny> Bitte never gambled with postgresql clustering over wan...
[09:04:56] <Holger> > So I guess I shouldn't have them connected to separate postgresql db's right?
Right, unless those DB's cope with syncing.
[09:05:05] <jonny> *but
[09:05:36] <Holger> > Or should I just manually sync to slave nodes via cron?
It depends on what you want. "Should I buy a bicycle or a car?"
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[09:06:45] <jonny> I need a bicycle, but as a car mechanic my expectations of myself is having a Ferrari 🙂
And there is always something to learn new on the way 😁
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[09:09:23] <Holger> Hehe that's a bit how your questions sound indeed: You don't sound like you're setting up a cluster to solve a specific problem you have in mind, but to … set up a cluster. Which is perfectly fine of course, playing with that stuff can be fun. So the question is whether single Postgres node or master-slave or master-master is most fun.
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[09:19:30] <jonny> Single postgresql is bad because the preferred one has limited ports for exposing through the firewall
[09:20:12] <jonny> Have to read about pg clustering
[09:20:16] <jonny> 🙂
[09:21:06] <jonny> I would like to have local postgresql instances in the same machine where the ejabberd instances are running, and having them in a cluster just like ejabberd
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[09:21:28] <jonny> Will come back with more specific questions 🙂
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[09:25:24] <Holger> I'm not into Postgres much and not at all I into their new-ish master-master support. So no idea whether / how well this is supposed to work with ejabberd's Postgres support.
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[09:26:05] <Holger> I know that some sites (e.g. mailbox.org and blabber.im) do this with Galera/MariaDB.
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[09:27:59] <Holger> nz has recently set this up with Postgres I think, but dunno how much experience he already has with netsplit situations and such.
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[09:32:29] <zinid> jonny: if you absolutely want clustering I would look into cockroach db or yugabyte db
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[09:32:54] <jonny> Thx, I will read about that. If the async db's lead to problems I'll simply switch the second instance off for now
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[15:08:26] <lovetox> does ejabberd support tombestones on MUCs?
[15:08:44] <lovetox> seems it doesnt from my test, just want to make sure there is no config value im missing
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[15:17:22] <Licaon_Kter> Iirc this was implemented
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[15:18:18] <Licaon_Kter> Oh, postponed
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2546
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[17:50:57] <jonny> Holger: https://www.2ndquadrant.com/de/produkte/postgres-bdr/
reading this now 🙂
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[18:15:28] <Holger> lovetox: You can now get a similar effect by telling ejabberd to keep MUC MAM messages when the room is destroyed. It won't allow the room to be recreated until the archive is emptied.
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