Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, September 19, 2019< ^ >
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[05:00:56] <perflyst> > I want to use a bot to parse messages so i can read from irc
there is biboumi, with this bridge you can join irc rooms via xmpp and can read/write
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[05:13:12] <j.r> > there is biboumi, with this bridge you can join irc rooms via xmpp and can read/write
Yeah I would also suggest to use IRC over XMPP and not the other way around
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[07:12:00] <bammes> Hi
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[07:12:50] <bammes> is there a way to upgrade the old mysql schema to the new one with the server_host fields instead of single databases for each vhost?
[07:14:35] <bammes> and regarding: "Normally any LDAP compatible server should work; inform us about your success with a not-listed server so that we can list it here."
[07:14:52] <bammes> 389ds (the redhat directory server) works as an ldap server
[07:16:04] <bammes> its the ldap server that comes with freeipa installations
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[07:58:50] <vanitasvitae> !info jabber.stingbyte.com
[07:58:51] <Servant> vanitasvitae: jabber.stingbyte.com is running since 11 weeks 6 hours 18 minutes 17 seconds
jabber.stingbyte.com is running Prosody version 0.9.11 on Linux
jabber.stingbyte.com has no contact addresses configured.
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[07:59:10] <vanitasvitae> !info jabber.cd
[07:59:11] <Servant> vanitasvitae: jabber.cd is running since 34 weeks 2 days 16 hours 5 minutes
jabber.cd is running ejabberd version 18.01.
jabber.cd has no contact addresses configured.
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[08:07:46] <Daniel> is there any news regarding the leavve before join message racing min_presence_interval group chat bug?
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[08:11:53] <zinid> no, I reported it to aleksey, then he asked me for more info and I forgot about it, lmao
[08:12:46] <Daniel> I had forgotten about it as well until I ran into it again when I was testing something else
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[08:13:05] <Daniel> I wonder if I should just stop with the leave before join
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[08:14:49] <zinid> hehe, yeah, I think with more or less updated servers it's not necessary anymore
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[08:15:35] <zinid> anyways, it's better to have bugs with unmaintained servers than with the maintained ones 😉
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[08:16:31] <zinid> I don't decline to fix the bug, just not in the priority
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[08:17:07] <zinid> I need to fix ACME first 😀
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[08:33:50] <perflyst> !info conversations.im
[08:33:50] <Servant> perflyst: conversations.im is running since 12 weeks 3 days 11 hours 26 minutes
conversations.im is running ejabberd version 19.05.13-conversations.im on unix/linux 4.19.0
contact addresses for conversations.im are
- abuse-addresses : mailto:abuse@conversations.im
- admin-addresses : mailto:admin@conversations.im
- support-addresses : mailto:support@conversations.im
[08:34:35] <perflyst> what is the jid of Servant?
will it work in pm too?
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[08:35:12] <edhelas> !info movim.eu
[08:35:12] <Servant> edhelas: movim.eu is running since 1 week 4 days 10 hours 46 minutes
movim.eu is running ejabberd version 19.08 on unix/linux 4.19.0
contact addresses for movim.eu are
- admin-addresses : xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu
- security-addresses : xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu
- abuse-addresses : xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu
- feedback-addresses : xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join
- support-addresses : xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join
[08:35:18] <edhelas> nice
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[09:47:31] <vanitasvitae> !info jabberhead.tk
[09:47:31] <Servant> vanitasvitae: !uptime jabberhead.tk resulted in: service-unavailable
jabberhead.tk is running ejabberd version 18.12.1-2.
contact addresses for jabberhead.tk are
- abuse-addresses : mailto:vanitasvitae@fsfe.org
- support-addresses : mailto:vanitasvitae@fsfe.org
- admin-addresses : mailto:vanitasvitae@fsfe.org
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[09:54:16] <edhelas> :(
[09:54:22] <Servant> edhelas: !uptime vanitasvitae resulted in: remote-server-timeout
!version vanitasvitae resulted in: remote-server-timeout
!contact vanitasvitae resulted in: remote-server-timeout
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[10:25:33] <Holger> !version vanitasvitae
[10:25:59] <Holger> Hmm.
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[11:57:19] <zinid> 14:56:05.671 [warning] Certificate in /home/xram/git/pkix/test/expired.pem (at line: 1) for localhost expires in less than 9 hours
[11:57:32] <zinid> a week of painful refactoring just to get this line correct
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[11:58:26] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> yay I guess
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[12:02:00] <zinid> I guess ejabberd should send a message to the admin in this case? That's what people want?
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[12:02:19] <zinid> (I mean when ACME is not used)
[12:02:29] <Holger> Probably.  But who's "the admin"?
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[12:03:08] <zinid> Holger, yeah, a new stupid option is needed?
[12:03:16] <zinid> `cert_admins`?
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[12:04:43] <Holger> Or `admins` in case we want to re-use it for other stuff?
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[12:05:02] <Licaon_Kter> The abuse addresses ?
[12:05:10] <Holger> Then again people will confuse it with `admin` ACLs used by other modules.
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[12:07:01] <Holger> `cert_admins`.
[12:09:20] <zinid> yeah, this is ugly
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[13:44:51] <zinid> `<TYPE>image.png</TYPE>`
[13:45:12] <zinid> this is from https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3027
[13:45:23] <zinid> also, resource in <JABBERID/> 🙂
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[14:01:48] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> !info emevth.no-ip.biz
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[14:01:51] <Servant> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: emevth.no-ip.biz is running since 21 hours 25 minutes 34 seconds
emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 19.08.36 on unix/linux 4.19.62
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[14:52:35] <tyler> biboumi as an IRC chat bridge is just damn amazing.
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[14:52:41] <tyler> Thank you whoever suggested it months ago.
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[15:18:14] <edhelas> yup, biboumi is great
[15:18:54] <edhelas> Makes IRC on XMPP Great Again
[15:19:13] <edhelas> we should make red caps with that on it 🤔
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[15:24:54] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/MrBXDlgPpOVIa9fmwcOFyJMOnjF3m1q226KCkIPG/JbDmLrYlQeGvH0WjxW1MIw.jpg
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[15:26:39] <edhelas> <3
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[15:56:43] <zinid> two bald faggots hugging, very symbolic 😀
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[16:04:43] <Licaon_Kter> That's protocolist....
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[16:07:10] <marevalo> And hate speech (against bald protocols)
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[16:28:15] <perflyst> what is the best supported data backend for ejabberd? postgres?
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[16:31:30] <perflyst> and does ejabberdctl import_prosody uses the new or old database schema?
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[16:51:33] <zinid> perflyst, both mysql and postgres are fine
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[16:51:45] <zinid> perflyst, and import_prosody is backend agnostic
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[16:54:03] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, so if I commit ACME in master, will you use it?
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[17:32:13] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: maybe next week
I'm usually doing it via DNS so I'll have to setup nginx to handlu
[17:32:22] <Licaon_Kter> *handle it
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[17:38:13] <tyler> What mechanism is used... when I'm (gajim) chatting with someone (chat secure and converse.js)... that makes sure they get the message on both of their devices?
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[17:39:15] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, release is next week, hehe
[17:39:32] <Licaon_Kter> tyler: carbons 280
[17:39:36] <Licaon_Kter> zinid:  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:39:59] <zinid> tyler, what Licaon_Kter said: XEP-0280
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[18:15:31] <Licaon_Kter> zinid:
> release is next week, hehe
What's the hurry?
[18:15:47] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, because of regressions?
[18:15:56] <zinid> actually it's me who insisted
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[18:16:55] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: oh, for the other stuff, not acme per se
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[19:31:34] <Kris> How would I go about setting up a component only for a certain vhost?
[19:31:40] <Kris> https://dev.narayana.im/narayana/zhabogram
[19:31:57] <Kris> Looking into that one :)
[19:34:53] <jonny> Hey, does anyone know if each ejabberd instance in a Cluster can have his own separate Postgresql Database on the same machine?
...currently I have both connected to one Postgresql instance, running on one of them which is really bad. if it won't work I'm thinking about moving the Postgresql instance to a separate Server outside of the Cluster. (did look into Master Master Replication too with https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Bucardo) but as @Holger mentioned earlier this feels WAY overdosed for me :)
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[19:57:56] <jonny> Kris: interesting
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[19:59:37] <Kris> jonny just run postgres in a docker container
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[20:05:29] <jonny> Kris: I could try with docker but the separate machine hardware outside the cluster: https://www.pine64.org/devices/single-board-computers/rock64/
is limited and I tried to get around docker in private things. In my opinion in the end it's just another layer of complexity
[20:06:32] <Kris> Yeah, but one that saves a lot of complexity elsewhere
[20:07:08] <Kris> Overall a complexity negative win IMHO
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[20:10:00] <jonny> ... with loosing control of what's going on.... (ever seen a Java Spring Stacktrace :D )
but for testing purpose its really a handy thing for making sure to always test with same conditions for example
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[20:11:34] <Kris> Never had the feeling of loosing control. Docker is more or less like multiple servers connected through a network.
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[20:12:07] <Kris> But each server can be super simple and easy to understand
[20:12:09] <jonny> it uses cgroups under the hood
[20:12:18] <jonny> when I remind that correct
[20:13:00] <Kris> Yeah, of course under the hood it is quite complex, but so is the Linux kernel or a CPU etc.
[20:13:26] <jonny> so as long as the system is fine all is good...
[20:13:52] <Kris> That can be said for all of the above examples also
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[20:15:01] <jonny> I like docker dont misunderstand me
[20:15:31] <jonny> I just dont think its the answer to everything when it comes to scaling
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[20:25:22] <Kris> Sure, it is not of course
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[20:39:38] <zinid> > Hey, does anyone know if each ejabberd instance in a Cluster can have his own separate Postgresql Database on the same machine?
No. The point of the cluster is to *share* date. You cannot share data between two separate databases
[20:39:43] <zinid> *data
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[20:45:49] <jonny> I know, I was hoping that the sharing could be handled inside the ejabberd runtime (before inserting into db), if I would switch to mnesia and disable postgresql then it would be like that or am I wrong?
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[23:39:34] <zinid> jonny: mnesia will be shared, i.e. this is the same as using one SQL database
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