Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, October 1, 2019< ^ >
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[08:20:04] <zinid> jackal development is almost halted: https://github.com/ortuman/jackal/commits/master
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[08:24:14] <Daniel> very surprising
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[08:38:17] <zinid> 🙂
[08:38:27] <zinid> no XMPP serva in Go 🙁
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[08:39:54] <Steven Roose> zinid, jackal
[08:39:56] <Steven Roose> ah
[08:40:03] <Steven Roose> nooooo
[08:40:04] <edhelas> he's just doing the 0060 integration, PR incoming in 15 months
[08:40:26] <zinid> edhelas, XMPP will be dead by that time, he should be hurry
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[08:44:27] <edhelas> :p
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[09:01:48] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: isn't it dying since like always?
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[09:21:56] <edhelas> aren't we all dying slowly in the end ?
[09:24:34] <Licaon_Kter> Tru'
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[11:28:04] <Neustradamus> About Jitsi and XMPP, you can look tickets: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi/issues/created_by/Neustradamus.
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> zinid: isn't it dying since like always?
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[13:20:51] <Holger> zinid: The ejabberd_shaper validators use econf:pos_int(), but 0 can be a valid shaper value, no?  So you see a problem with changing that to econf:non_neg_int()?
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[13:21:29] <zinid> Holger, 0 is not a valid value, I tried it and shaper module has crashed
[13:21:49] <zinid> there is zero division in that case
[13:22:03] <Holger> Sigh.  My use case is setting `max_offline_messages: 0` for an API user.
[13:22:09] <zinid> ah
[13:22:31] <zinid> and how do we know whether it's a shaper or some limit?
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[13:26:56] <Holger> Well prefiks obviously decided that both are the same thing :-)
[13:27:11] <zinid> no, it was created before him 🙂
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[13:29:00] <Holger> Those limits were access rules before his changes, no?
[13:29:08] <Holger> Whatever.
[13:29:14] <prefiks> no that was shaper
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[13:31:50] <prefiks> i think we should allow passing zero here in validator and fix shaper to not crash on zero
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[13:32:17] <Holger> Hrm, I always configured `max_user_offline_messages`, `max_user_sessions` as an `access:` rule
[13:32:56] <zinid> prefiks, yes, probably
[13:33:31] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/18.01/src/mod_offline.erl#L190
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[13:34:24] <prefiks> both shaper_rules and access_rules land in single table, but before we didn't even check what you did put in it, so you were able to put anything in it
[13:34:38] <Holger> I only stumbled over this right now while moving these things from my old-style `access:` rules to `shaper_rules:`.
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[13:34:57] <Holger> Yes I didn't mean to say it was better before :-)
[13:35:02] <prefiks> yeah and i think we should fix that to allow it
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[14:57:45] <zinid> fixing validator is simple (use `non_neg_int()`), but not sure about shaper code, and what to do in the case of '0'
[14:58:18] <zinid> and too lazy/busy to check it out 😉
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[15:02:27] <prefiks> i will fix shaper, also not sure what to do, probably just make it 1 in shaper
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[15:03:12] <zinid> maybe just disable shaper in that case?
[15:03:17] <zinid> using 1 sounds weird
[15:03:35] <zinid> I think when people set '0' don't expect it will work as '1' LOL 🙂
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[15:04:19] <Holger> 0.001
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[15:05:02] <zinid> yeah, same level of confusion 🙂
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[15:06:16] <zinid> I vote for just disabling the shaper
[15:06:37] <zinid> this "approach" is used everywhere in C after all, why are we worse? 🙂
[15:07:11] <Holger> I was just going to suggest 0 == infinity for shapers.
[15:07:22] <zinid> yup
[15:07:38] <zinid> division by zero is infinity!
[15:07:45] <Holger> :-)
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[15:08:33] <zinid> and we don't even need to fix the shaper code, just update the validator
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[15:09:11] <zinid> yconf:and_then(yconf:non_neg_int(), fun(0) -> infinity; (Other) -> Other end)
[15:09:26] <Holger> Yup.
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[15:10:38] <zinid> ah, better vise-versa, so `make options` will derive the type
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[15:11:59] <zinid> rate => econf:pos_int()
[15:12:07] <zinid> ah, so we don't accept infinity 🙂
[15:12:10] <zinid> traps are everywhere
[15:12:23] <zinid> ah no, we accept
[15:12:27] <zinid> I'm just blind 😉
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[15:14:26] <zinid> #{rate => econf:pos_int(),
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[15:14:39] <zinid> not sure they can be zeros
[15:15:01] <zinid> or infinity
[15:15:01] <Holger> Those are old option names?
[15:15:10] <zinid> no, those are new parameters!
[15:15:20] <zinid> introduced by prefiks 😉
[15:15:41] <zinid> not documented of course 😉
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[15:15:53] <Holger> Oh.
[15:16:18] <zinid> plain old integers are still accepted
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[16:50:49] <Servant> Steven Roose: 404.city is running ejabberd version 18.12.1-2 on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[19:02:11] <reset> fook 404city
[19:03:26] <reset> Oh hi Daniel 🙃
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[19:59:16] <zinid> https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/1177997999177224193
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[20:01:42] <Licaon_Kter> https://twitter.com/AtlasanityShibe/status/1177998618273468421 the app is down
THE APP!!!!!
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[20:01:57] <perflyst> nitter.net plsss
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[20:02:00] <perflyst> somehow ejabberdctl incoming_s2s_number always reports 0 with 19.09
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[20:02:12] <Licaon_Kter> perflyst, so fixed? 😀
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[20:02:14] <perflyst> outgoing_s2s_number is in normal range, and it looks like everything is just working as normal...
[20:02:23] <Licaon_Kter> psql?
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[20:02:30] <perflyst> yeag
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[20:02:35] <perflyst> yeah
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[20:02:45] <perflyst> kontalk.net fixed? no
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[20:03:17] <perflyst> kontalk.net fixed? no. just didnt had time to log the things again and it doesnt really has any prio
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[20:08:44] <zinid> what are you talking about? 😀
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[20:10:56] <perflyst> eh, i am confused now, just read the tweets now
1. wanted to say you should use nitter instead of twitter.com for better privacy
2. ejabberdctl incoming s2s is somehow broken
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[20:18:10] <zinid> oh, that shitty ejabberdctl...
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[20:18:30] <zinid> I always forget people are using it 😁
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[20:20:28] <zinid> (ejabberd1@zinid.ru)1> ejabberd_s2s:incoming_s2s_number().
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(ejabberd1@zinid.ru)2> ejabberd_s2s:outgoing_s2s_number().
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[20:20:31] <zinid> indeed
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[20:26:55] <zinid> found a bug
[20:27:02] <zinid> it was introduced in 19.08 btw
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[20:29:21] <zinid> perflyst, here is your fix https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/7fc272918ac926ab895e89988fd757418d592530
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[20:30:20] <perflyst> thx, i upgraded 18.12 to 19.09
i use ejabberdctl in zabbix for graphs
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[20:33:51] <zinid> I wonder why nobody complains about new configuration validator and deprecations 🙂
[20:33:57] <zinid> ah, except Holger
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[20:34:17] <zinid> seems like he's using some obfuscated configuration with zeros everywhere 🙂
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[21:10:38] <Kris> any troube to expect from updating the ecs docker image from 19.08 to 19.09, or should it be smooth sailing?
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[21:18:02] <Kris> Seems to have worked
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[21:32:20] <zinid> Kris: it's mostly bugfixes
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[21:33:55] <Kris> so you seem to have found someone to update the Dockerhub images again?
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[22:12:48] <zinid> I personally didn't 😁
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