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ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, October 15, 2019< ^ >
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[06:31:22] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Kris: any idea how a nodered  would look like?
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[06:32:06] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I've nodered installed ..means I need a bot reading this messages to forward it into mqtt right ?
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[08:08:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Nobody here who ever played with nodered?
[08:09:28] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I installed the xmpp node add-on .. I connected an account to my server  ..and this account listens to messages from my account
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[08:20:11] <madmalkav> Weird question: can I somehow make a chat that by default users can write messages but not read them except some handpicked ones?
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[10:13:59] <Ben> Hey buddies
[10:15:55] <Ben> If a user doesn't log in for a long time, how long will offline messages wait for them? Forever?
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[10:55:13] <zinid> Ben: yes
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[10:55:22] <Ben> wow
[10:55:35] <zinid> till the heat death of the Universe
[10:55:39] <Ben> but that wouldn't have anything to do with MUC's right
[10:55:44] <Ben> only direct messages
[10:55:46] <zinid> right
[10:55:59] <Ben> that's comforting
[10:56:35] <zinid> you can purge offline messages from time to time
[10:57:44] <zinid> I think there is an admin command for that
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[10:58:07] <zinid> you can also configure maximum number of offline messages per user
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[10:59:22] <Ben> oh that's interesting
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[10:59:51] <Ben> I don't expect it to be an issue, as my server has few users so I can monitor their activity at my leisure
[11:00:35] <Ben> although an interesting case I did encounter, when I logged into my jabber.org account some months ago after years of inactivity, and having hundreds of spam messages waiting for me
[11:00:55] <Ben> but haven't gotten any spam yet on my own server, knock on wood
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[11:19:45] <madmalkav> You can also disable offline messages module if you have MAM active
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[11:20:17] <Ben> I suppose all clients nowadays know how to rely on MAM?
[11:21:09] <Holger> Most of those that are still actively maintained, yes.
[11:21:38] <Ben> I pretty much only use Dino and Conversations, so I'm probably covered
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[11:28:02] <zinid> yes
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[11:29:13] <Ben> How do offline and mam play nice with each other? That seems tricky
[11:29:28] <zinid> it's tricky for a client only
[11:29:38] <Ben> I guess so
[11:29:41] <zinid> and there is a lot of drama on this topic among client devs
[11:30:04] <zinid> basically, every client implements some sort of heuristics
[11:30:07] <zinid> which sucks of course
[11:30:25] <Ben> So we should just do mam-only from now on
[11:30:46] <zinid> as long as your clients are mam-compatible - yes
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[11:31:20] <zinid> conversations resolves this by issuing "delete all offline messages" command to the server at login time
[11:31:33] <zinid> still, there can be race conditions
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[11:31:45] <Ben> So I just remove the offline module from ejabberd.yml and run ejabberdctl reload-config?
[11:31:50] <zinid> yes
[11:32:00] <Holger> Clients can use <stanza-id/>s to de-dup these days.
[11:32:09] <Ben> Any queued offline messages get deleted at that point right
[11:32:26] <Holger> Which makes it much easier than it was in the past.  But would be better if we could avoid dups altogether, of course.
[11:32:37] <Ben> Yeah you'd think ID's would make finding duplicates easy. Timestamps too probably
[11:32:53] <Holger> Timestamps always go wrong :-)
[11:33:15] <zinid> btw, there is a very nice new approach to timestamp
[11:33:22] <zinid> Hybrid Lamport Clock
[11:33:36] <zinid> the idea is very simple and we can actually use it in XMPP
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[11:35:24] <zinid> https://muratbuffalo.blogspot.com/2014/07/hybrid-logical-clocks.html
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[11:38:20] <zinid> we can exchange those timestamps in XEP-0198 nonzas and thus having a globally consistent timestamping
[11:38:28] <Ben> ok what about mod_stream_mgmt: resend_on_timeout: if_offline
[11:39:06] <Ben> if I disable mod_offline does that affect it
[11:39:40] <Holger> The setting basically has no effect then.
[11:39:56] <Ben> could I just remove the setting
[11:39:58] <Holger> Yes.
[11:40:00] <Ben> but keep the module of course
[11:40:05] <Holger> Yes.
[11:40:20] <Ben> so it should read like mod_stream_mgmt: {}
[11:40:23] <Holger> Yes.
[11:40:27] <Ben> nice
[11:40:37] <Ben> yml confuses me but I can sort of guess by comparing it to the other entries
[11:40:40] <Holger> The setting makes no difference for MAM clients either way.
[11:41:33] <Ben> it probably goes back to the same issue of the client having to avoid receiving duplicate messages
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[11:42:48] <Holger> zinid: Never heard of "Hybrid Logical Clocks".  No time to read right now but opened in a browser tab ;-)
[11:43:27] <Holger> Ben: In case you're interested: https://www.ejabberd.im/faq/tcp/index.html
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[11:43:46] <Holger> Ben: That was written before MAM was a thing and explains the mess without it.
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[11:44:19] <zinid> Holger, basically the cheap time synchronization protocol: as long as local time is close to NTP time, peers are in "consistent time state" and all events can be considered to be ordered
[11:44:34] <Ben> Nice
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[11:46:20] <zinid> Holger, in regards to XMPP: every message can be timestamped and when a peer (server or a client, doesn't matter) receives the message, it extracts the timestamp from it and adjusts it's local time
[11:46:39] <Ben> Confusing but interesting topic. I just have to put my faith in the jabber devs
[11:46:49] <Ben> That all this will work ;)
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[11:47:53] <zinid> Holger, thus, for example, when a client receives two messages, it *always* knows which one happened before another one
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[11:49:38] <zinid> I need to find some time to rewrite internal timestamping between ejabberd nodes to HLC timestamps
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[11:50:42] <zinid> this is important when we need to resolve last-write-wins conflicts (like session conflicts)
[11:50:52] <zinid> currently it's quite flacky
[11:50:53] <Holger> Yeah.
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[11:55:02] <zinid> I find the idea of HLC elegant as fuck, I wonder nobody was able to invent it before 2014
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[11:55:17] <zinid> google even used expensive clock hardware, lol
[11:55:20] <zinid> now it's useless
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[11:58:41] <zinid> ah, cockroachdb recently switched to HLC for internal timestamping as well
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[18:05:18] <lovetox> zinid, that would be great
[18:05:46] <lovetox> this would allow us even on clusters to have a order attribute on mam messages
[18:07:37] <lovetox> this would make any mam client implementation much more easy, i could just request stuff all around, and never worry about fucking up the order of messages in my database
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[19:00:53] <Ben> Hell yeah
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[19:23:39] <sandra24x> hi XMPP ! i installed ejabberd on ubuntu, when i try sudo ejabberdctl status i don't get anything (it says i can install it) but when i try ./bin/ejabberdctl live it says the node is already running, any clue what the issue would be ?
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[19:30:59] <zinid> sandra24x, you can only attache to running ejabberd node using the same user
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[19:31:24] <zinid> or copy .erlang.cookie from ~ejabberd to /root
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[19:31:34] <sandra24x> you mean my ubuntu username has to be the same as the one in the conifg ?
[19:32:08] <zinid> sandra24x, I mean there is .erlang.cookie file, it's located in every user's directory and it must match the one located in ~ejabberd home directory
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[19:32:23] <zinid> this is kinda authentication
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[19:33:20] <zinid> also, it depends on how you installed ejabberd (from the package, binary installer, sources, etc)
[19:33:21] <sandra24x> i understood how to get it to work but is it because my username was user1@mycomputeer and that when i installed it i chose user2@somehost ?
[19:33:35] <zinid> no
[19:33:44] <zinid> if I understood the question correctly
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[19:33:59] <sandra24x> i installed from binary after giving permissions rights (followed guide on website)
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[19:34:51] <sandra24x> i wanted to know why when i installed the binary it did not work. I was wondering whether because I was logged in on my ubuntu as user1@mycomputer and during the install I used user2@somehost ?
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[19:35:45] <zinid> ah, yes, probably
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[19:36:03] <zinid> make sure you installed from the same user and use it then from the same user
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[19:40:02] <sandra24x> mmm but what if i want to tie it to a domain name ?
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[19:40:48] <sandra24x> i thought the 'localhost' part is my domain
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[19:41:20] <sandra24x> what happens if my ubuntu user name is user@randomfunname and i want ejjbard to be tied to domain.com ?
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[19:42:33] <zinid> I'm lost
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[19:42:58] <zinid> seems you're confusing local user system accounts with XMPP accounts registered at ejabberd
[19:43:06] <zinid> or maybe I don't understand something
[19:43:35] <sandra24x> so i used to pay for a vps but it was too expensive just for running xmpp and getting friends and family to use xmpp
[19:43:46] <sandra24x> so i decided to install ubuntu and run ejabberd
[19:43:57] <zinid> too expensive? 5$ a month?
[19:44:09] <zinid> whatever 🙂
[19:44:45] <sandra24x> one salary for three mouths ! 🙂 let's say that's it's not an essential need
[19:45:09] <zinid> that's true
[19:45:48] <sandra24x> i installed ubuntu with ejabberd and i wanted my domain to be linked to ejabberd
[19:46:11] <zinid> so? put your domain name in `hosts` option of ejabberd.yml
[19:46:19] <zinid> hosts: mydomain.com
[19:46:30] <zinid> hosts:
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[19:46:45] <sandra24x> oh and that's what i was wondering i don't need to install any apache2 whatsoever right ?
[19:46:52] <zinid> no
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[19:47:25] <sandra24x> yes the config file i was going to update it when i got ejabberd started but i think as you mentioned maybe it's a local user issue
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[19:48:05] <sandra24x> but the question is when i run the binary and it asks for a domain it has nothing to do with my domain name right ?
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[19:48:27] <zinid> why? it asks you about the domain name that will be put into `hosts`
[19:48:42] <zinid> then it asks you to create an admin account
[19:48:56] <zinid> which means an XMPP account that will have admin priviledges on ejabberd
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[19:50:26] <sandra24x> so the xmpp domain is my domain during the install ? it will add it in hosts ?
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[19:51:39] <sandra24x> edhelas not quite so, i was hoping the ejabberd binary to handle everything
[19:52:00] <sandra24x> i.e i enter the domain name and that's it 😃
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[19:52:14] <sandra24x> but i know the yml config gile
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[19:52:40] <edhelas> if only it was that easy :p what will happen if you put whitehouse.gov.us in the domain, stealing the official domain of the WhiteHouse :D ?
[19:52:55] <sandra24x> i am a big hacker yea 😉
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[19:53:25] <edhelas> you first have to configure your DNS to point it properly to your local ip, redirect a few ports, get a certificate and then configure all that in your ejabberd config
[19:53:25] <sandra24x> i know I  have to link my domain on my registrar to my computer
[19:53:37] <zinid> sandra24x, ejabberd cannot handle DNS for obvious reasons
[19:53:58] <sandra24x> i just don't know how much extra setup outside of ejabberd i have to do
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[19:54:10] <sandra24x> registrat i know -> ip
[19:54:22] <sandra24x> ejabberd -> domain name
[19:54:25] <edhelas> it's similar of what you have to do to setup a web server
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[19:55:01] <sandra24x> but this sort of things or done with apache etc. if it's not installed how ejabberd can handle it ?
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[19:55:22] <zinid> sandra24x, handle what?
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[19:55:42] <zinid> DNS is something that doesn't depend on whether it's apache or ejabberd or postfix
[19:55:47] <sandra24x> port redirects for example
[19:56:04] <zinid> no daemon can handle port redirects
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[19:56:07] <sandra24x> i know the registrar points my domain to my local computer
[19:56:50] <sandra24x> but where am i supposed to setup the port redirects, just router would be enough i guess ?
[19:57:01] <sandra24x> then ejabberd would manage the rest ?
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[19:58:19] <sandra24x> ok starting to make sense so ejbaerd just opens a port
[19:58:39] <zinid> yes, it accepts connections on the port, that's it
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[19:59:33] <sandra24x> great, i still have to figure out because i don't think my ip is 100% static, so likely i will have to rely on some sort of dynamic ip service
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[20:01:09] <sandra24x> but i come back to my initial issue, if during the install the xmpp domain is my domain name why do i run into this issue of ejabberd not found, i.e my username on the local computer not matching whatever i entered during install seem to be causing an issue
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[20:01:54] <zinid> you MUST install and use ejabberd from the same system user, otherwise you will face various problems
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[20:02:11] <zinid> "use ejabberd" means running ejabberdctl
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[20:02:32] <zinid> it's irrelevant to the domain name
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[20:04:08] <sandra24x> i installed it while logged under user1@computer1 but during the install i used user2@computer2 are you saying that both have to match ? i.e use user1@computer1 twice ? or during installed user1@domain.com
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[20:06:31] <sandra24x> yea sorry it's this user@computer on ubuntu that is confusing , i am not sure if my ubuntu has to be user@domain since it seems to be affecting the install
[20:06:51] <Ben> well for what it's worth I installed ejabberd on freebsd as a system package and what it did was install ejabberd with a system user by the same name, so ejabberd@myhost is a user I can su to and play with ejabberd as much as I want. I didn't realize how simple that was at first, but apparently I was also able to use ejabberdctl as root without any issues
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[20:07:42] <Ben> maybe when run as root it ends up working as the ejabberd user anyway
[20:07:56] <zinid> seems like some package magic
[20:08:05] <Ben> very magical
[20:08:10] <zinid> very, yes
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[20:08:51] <Ben> what do normal people do?
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[20:09:14] <zinid> package maintainers can do various magic, if they put more that 1 minute of thoughts into the problem
[20:09:15] <edhelas> they use Slack
[20:09:19] <Ben> I imagine it's a best idea for ejabberd to have its own user
[20:09:49] <zinid> slack is for faggots
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[20:10:26] <edhelas> 500ms delay between enter button and display on screen, you can't beat that
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[20:12:13] <sandra24x> i will be back tomorrow with more questions 🙂 thanks for your help
[20:12:22] <zinid> edhelas, between what and what? button click and click displayed? 🙂
[20:12:58] <zinid> that's how modern cool javascript clients work
[20:13:10] <edhelas> yeah basically in the JS ui, between the moment you send the message and it does the full trip to the server
[20:13:28] <edhelas> I saw some 500ms, average is like 200ms
[20:14:39] <edhelas> i'm also playing with mattermost, feature wise it's not wonderful, seriously
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[20:14:56] <zinid> I don't even know what it is
[20:15:01] <edhelas> and the performances are also really meh
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[20:15:10] <zinid> sounds like another thing for faggots
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[20:15:22] <edhelas> https://mattermost.com/
[20:15:33] <edhelas> it's like Slack, but… actually it's like Slack
[20:16:21] <zinid> > Mattermost is a flexible, open source messaging platform that enables secure team collaboration
yeah, very clear
[20:16:33] <edhelas> "secure" => no E2EE
[20:16:40] <edhelas> secure == TLS on HTTP ;)
[20:16:44] <zinid> where did I see that? Ah, on another 100000+ projects around the internetz
[20:17:12] <Licaon_Kter> edhelas: on premise e2ee is not a MUST
[20:17:24] <edhelas> yup
[20:17:32] <zinid> > Matrix is an open source project that publishes the Matrix open standard for secure, decentralised, real-time communication
[20:17:48] <edhelas> but TLS is at least the MUST for 100% of messaging systems
[20:18:19] <Licaon_Kter> It's *good enough* for my needs, then again I build Converse daily and still cry :(
[20:18:42] <zinid> do you cry like a girl?
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[20:18:51] <Licaon_Kter> TLS yes, users go outside of LAN, lol
[20:19:00] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yup
[20:19:25] <Licaon_Kter> This month was hard, I can't even see messages anymore  ಥ_ಥ
[20:19:26] <edhelas> "cry in javascript"
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[20:19:56] <Licaon_Kter> `npm cry`
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[20:20:15] <Licaon_Kter> _600Mb deps_
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[20:21:44] <zinid> a compact disc of deps
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