Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, November 14, 2019< ^ >
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[05:54:47] <kinetik> Is there a way to require a username/password for web registration? I tried using the same ACL as the admin page but it's still totally open.
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[06:02:28] <Licaon_Kter> kinetik: what web registration?
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[06:02:42] <Licaon_Kter> What do you mean open?
[06:03:09] <kinetik> I can go to the registration page without a password prompt and create a new user
[06:03:42] <kinetik> mod_register_web
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[06:04:15] <Licaon_Kter> kinetik: open registration...yes....so?  You want an user/pass so users can create user/pass..lolwut?
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[06:04:53] <Licaon_Kter> Do you want anyone on the internet to be able to create an account?
[06:04:54] <perflyst> i dont think you can lock this down via ejabberd
set some nginx before it and do the auth there
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[06:05:11] <perflyst> in the admin page you login with the admin xmpp user, right?
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[06:05:43] <Licaon_Kter> kinetik: if not, disable this' make accounts via the command line....or limit it to your IP
[06:06:07] <kinetik> Licaon_Kter: Yeah, it's a private server so I don't want anyone on the web to create an account
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[06:06:28] <kinetik> perflyst: that's correct
[06:07:22] <kinetik> perflyst: nginx is a good idea. I just wanted to see if there was anything built-in
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[07:26:22] <DeathStar> hi 2 all
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[07:26:51] <DeathStar> how i can migrate from old SQL schema to new? MySQL
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[07:40:16] <Licaon_Kter> DeathStar: umm https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/ ?
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[11:24:52] <pep.> Hi there. I was wondering if there's a reason why http upload links are so long? how much entropy do you get out of that? :p
[11:24:56] <pep.> https://upload.movim.eu/files/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/ZIatL5YQAX1LPaFi5fFikqRmt3w0DpQ1Pyh7tVAp/XMPP_newsletter.png.jpg for example
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[11:26:57] <Holger> That URL format is backwards-compat to Daniel's original component implementation, so admins could switch seemlessly.  Can be changed by the admin.
[11:27:23] <Holger> Not sure I want to switch the default as that could break things.
[11:27:24] <pep.> Why does it need backwards compatibility?
[11:27:29] <pep.> I mean..
[11:27:35] <pep.> urls are generated once and that's it no?
[11:27:57] <Holger> The initial component following /files/ is SHA1(username).
[11:28:51] <Holger> So the admin might implement quotas based on that, he might want to `rm -rf` the directory when the account is deleted (the module does that by default), and so on.
[11:29:38] <pep.> And the second? Just a random string?
[11:29:41] <Holger> Yeah.
[11:29:50] <Holger> That could be shortened without breaking stuff I guess.
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[11:30:02] <Holger> But I dislike the SHA1(username) part more :-)
[11:30:13] <pep.> I do as well
[11:30:17] <pep.> Now that you mention it
[11:30:29] <Holger> Pseudo-anonymity.
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[11:31:05] <Holger> I just fear the tracker issues a change would produce.
[11:31:33] <pep.> For the second part I don't see why
[11:31:34] <Holger> And well the client should hide the URL anyway.
[11:31:36] <pep.> The first one, sure
[11:31:51] <pep.> Holger, you mean a console client hides the url anyway? :P
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[11:32:16] <Holger> Heh, right mine doesn't either so I change this format on my servers ;-)
[11:32:46] <pep.> I'd like to change others' format :p
[11:33:35] <Holger> So we could do /1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/ZIatL5YQAX1LPaFi/XMPP_newsletter.png.jpg but is that really worth it?  Will still look ugly.
[11:34:08] <Holger> And will be less secure!!!!
[11:34:24] <pep.> I'm sure there's enough entropy.. ask youtube
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[12:52:28] <Holger> zinid: Seems we're using Logger's disk_log backend with "wrap logs"? (<http://erlang.org/doc/man/disk_log.html> ...)
[12:52:52] <zinid> we're not using disk_log
[12:53:16] <Holger> Ah ok misread the commit then.
[12:53:40] <Holger> I'm trying to understand what kind of rotation we now support.
[12:53:50] <zinid> we're using http://erlang.org/doc/man/logger_std_h.html
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[12:54:10] <Holger> And if we support not rotating at all, and just reopening the logs after external rotation was performed.
[12:54:10] <zinid> Config = #{max_no_bytes => LogRotateSize,
               max_no_files => LogRotateCount,
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[12:54:24] <Holger> k thanks.
[12:54:25] <zinid> we rotate by size
[12:54:57] <zinid> external rotation is not possible, because there is no way currently to tell the logger to reopen the log
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[12:55:14] <zinid> so all rotation is performed by logger_std_h itself
[12:55:24] <Holger> Sigh.
[12:55:51] <zinid> well you can del_handler/add_handler in order to reopen the log
[12:56:03] <zinid> but you will obviously lose some log messages
[12:57:02] <Holger> I'll look into it.  Would've thought others will be unhappy as well if OTP doesn't support clean reopening at all.
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[13:00:45] <zinid> well, I looked into the code, and it looks like the patch wouldn't be terribly complex
[13:00:55] <zinid> however, I don't know if the OTP team would accept it
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[13:08:04] <Holger> Looks like there's some code already.
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[13:10:17] <Holger> E.g. if we'd set the `file_check` option it would just recreate the file if an external tool rotated away.  As lager did it.  But O
[13:10:38] <Holger> But I'd want to avoid the stat() calls if possible.
[13:11:05] <zinid> yeah, stat() on every write is no good
[13:11:07] <Holger> There's logger_std_h:filesync/1 which might do the right thing.
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[13:11:45] <Holger> (Need to follow the spaghetti code to understand whether it ends up calling filesync/3 in 'sync' mode, in which case it would do the right thing indeed.)
[13:11:57] <zinid> this will also degrade performance, and the reason we introduce new logger is for performance reasons
[13:12:01] <zinid> so it's kinda detrimental
[13:12:03] <Holger> Yes yes.
[13:12:28] <Holger> I would just like to call logger_std_h:filesync/1 when the admin does `ejabberdctl reopen-log` or something.
[13:12:29] <zinid> but I agree to introduce the option
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[14:57:07] <Holger> !version messaging.one
[14:57:08] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 19.09.56-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[15:50:22] <perflyst> !version movim.eu
[15:50:23] <Servant> perflyst: movim.eu is running ejabberd version 19.08 on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[16:17:20] <edhelas> perflyst stop stalking my server 😱
[16:17:57] <perflyst> edhelas: btw, why is only nl.movim.eu working and the other two broke?
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[16:26:06] <edhelas> perflyst because the admins that are managing those instances didn't checked ;)
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[16:26:13] <edhelas> de.movim.eu is back
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[16:26:38] <perflyst> do you host nl.? or do you not host any of them?
[16:27:20] <edhelas> i host nl
[16:27:21] <edhelas> yes
[16:27:28] <edhelas> it's the most updated and available one
[16:27:33] <edhelas> there's always master on it
[16:27:38] <perflyst> the server of fi. seems to be down completely for days
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[16:53:31] <marc0s> hi, i'm starting to play with the ejabberd/ecs docker image and when i run the `ejabberdctl register admin localhost secret` i get an `Error: cannot_register` result, debug logs tell no errors... any hint on something i might be missing?
[16:54:29] <marc0s> i'm starting with a really minimal configuration so i should probably need to add something more to it https://h.tenak.net/ikaxefiqam.yml
[16:54:42] <marc0s> thanks in advance :)
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[17:14:24] <zinid> well you cannot register users with anonymous auth, I think
[17:15:07] <zinid> and I would highly suggest using https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example
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[17:15:30] <zinid> and reduce it, instead of building the config bottom-up
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[19:10:45] <marc0s> > and reduce it, instead of building the config bottom-up
will follow that path, zinid. I tried from scratch for educational purposes. And will use internal auth and check then. Thanks!
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