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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[04:34:15] <djx> Well, if it's the same person I believe Nuestradamus is one of the main maintaners for implementing ejabberd as the XMPP chat module for Nethserver. I think he has a lot of experience with the difficulties of configuring ejabberd when compared with other servers. I also assume by his speech that English is not his first language.
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[05:29:39] <Licaon_Kter> djx:  👍
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[08:44:47] <zinid> > I think he has a lot of experience with the difficulties of configuring ejabberd when compared with other servers.
djx: what difficulties? he never told about them. he was always talking about scram shit
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[08:47:52] <Licaon_Kter> djx: not a language barrier either....they can russian and ~schtrudel~german too
[08:48:21] <djx> I don't know, and I had to look up what SCRAM is, but it would make sense. Nethserver is designed to make it easy to turn on modules, so they handle the configuration of user management to other things (like ejabberd) - so I guess that's why it's his focus.
[08:48:50] <djx> Well, I'm not saying it's a language barrier, I'm saying that if they're not native English speakers you can also assume that they have different cultural values and norms of what is rude and what is not :). Or, they're just a regular net person ;)
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[08:50:04] <zinid> djx, he is not rude, just plain stupid
[08:50:20] <zinid> maybe it's language barrier, but I doubt it
[08:50:35] <zinid> except in the case when he cannot read at all, just write, lol
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[08:52:48] <Licaon_Kter> djx: look at his issues...."get pet peeve, eg. SCRAM or Compliance"...open issues on ALL CURRENT XMPP PROJECTS ALIVE....ask to be implemented
[08:53:38] <Licaon_Kter> After 6 months do a checkup, if not implemented ask again "why not implement....the OTHER project already did"....oh....ignore the responses....
[08:54:09] <Licaon_Kter> Ok, I get it, nethserver needs working LDAP and SCRAM...but c'mon
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[09:04:36] <mightyBroccoli> I was working on a project of mine which utilizes the send_message xmlrpc api. I noticed that messages send via this are not stored in the archive even if the user has mam archive enabled.
Is that intentional?
[09:06:30] <djx> Well, I haven't seen all the comments so I don't know :) But so far I haven't seen him swear and call names, but the same can't be said for everyone else :X
[09:07:07] <djx> I do have a question though - are eJabberd and prosody more friendly than I originally thought? I saw in some ejabberd documentation about how to configure a module that basically said "It's the same as prosody <link to documentation>"
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[09:13:40] <daniel> mightyBroccoli: I think by default it might send type headline messages
[09:13:52] <daniel> I think you can change that to a different type
[09:14:08] <daniel> Possibly by using a different api end point
[09:14:22] <zinid> djx, I think what you're talking about is external http upload. We just took their protocol to improve compatibility. But then they just changed it and we're now incompatible. So said that was the last time I tried to be "friendly" with Prosody.
[09:14:42] <zinid> djx, nothing was stopping me from implementing hand-made upload protocol, it's trivial.
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[09:15:42] <mightyBroccoli> daniel, actually you can provide the message type, and none of them change this behaviour
[09:16:14] <zinid> mightyBroccoli, the message should at least land in user's archive
[09:17:07] <mightyBroccoli> is the users archive = the archive table?
[09:17:14] <zinid> yes
[09:17:27] <mightyBroccoli> ok then no it does not end up there
[09:18:05] <mightyBroccoli> in fact non of the send_* api endpoints messages end up there I tried all of them
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[09:31:24] <mightyBroccoli> Should I submit an issue for this.
[09:31:48] <zinid> mightyBroccoli, I just tested it and it works
[09:32:26] <zinid> > mod_admin_extra:send_message(<<"chat">>, <<"user2@localhost">>, <<"user1@localhost">>, <<"subject">>, <<"body">>).
ok
> mnesia:dirty_read(archive_msg, mnesia:dirty_first(archive_msg)).
[#archive_msg{us = {<<"user1">>,<<"localhost">>},
              id = <<"1574932855624476">>,
              timestamp = {1574,932855,624476},
              peer = {<<"user2">>,<<"localhost">>,<<>>},
              bare_peer = {<<"user2">>,<<"localhost">>,<<>>},
              packet = #xmlel{name = <<"message">>,
                              attrs = [{<<"to">>,<<"user1@localhost">>},
                                       {<<"from">>,<<"user2@localhost">>},
                                       {<<"type">>,<<"chat">>},
                                       {<<"id">>,<<"4857368523632362031">>},
                                       {<<"xmlns">>,<<"jabber:client">>}],
                              children = [#xmlel{name = <<"body">>,
                                                 attrs = [{<<"xml:lang">>,<<"en">>}],
                                                 children = [{xmlcdata,<<"body">>}]},
                                          #xmlel{name = <<"subject">>,
                                                 attrs = [{<<"xml:lang">>,<<"en">>}],
                                                 children = [{xmlcdata,<<"subject">>}]}]},
              nick = <<>>,type = chat}]
[09:32:51] <mightyBroccoli> I am using 18.09 could it be that this behavior got patched?
[09:34:23] <zinid> I don't think so, maybe it was broken and now fixed, who knows
[09:35:34] <zinid> from send_message() code I don't see why it wouldn't work
[09:38:27] <mightyBroccoli> I am quite confused now.
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[09:49:54] <mightyBroccoli> I retested this just to be sure and it does definitely not work at least in my setup.
could some weird configuration cause this?
[09:52:39] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: but you do that straight from ejabberd...
[09:52:44] <Licaon_Kter> mightyBroccoli: how do you send it exactly?
[09:52:54] <daniel> Mam archiving options for the recipient set to 'contacts'?
[09:54:07] <mightyBroccoli> Licaon_Kter, via the xmlrpc but I also tried directly via ejabberdctl
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[09:54:18] <mightyBroccoli> daniel, nope its set to all all
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[09:55:04] <Licaon_Kter> mightyBroccoli: wtf is a via xmlrpc? What program?
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[10:04:58] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I called it from Erlang console, yes, but it's the same as calling ejabberdctl
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[10:16:28] <mightyBroccoli> Licaon_Kter, I use the ejabberd xmlrpc, its a build in feature and I call it from a custom python wrapper.
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[10:19:12] <mightyBroccoli> I have to check some thing
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[10:32:08] <mightyBroccoli> ok I found the flaw. The client I was using did not register the archive preference correctly as I assumed. Which is why this whole mess started.
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[10:33:39] <Licaon_Kter> > custom python wrapper.
...was the answer, right, thanks
[10:34:40] <mightyBroccoli> Licaon_Kter, I though xmlrpc should suffice to explain :D sorry about that :D
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[10:35:56] <Licaon_Kter> That's the protocol....one can use many apps to do do that....also....if it works via erlang console maybe your app is b0rken instead yeah
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[10:38:47] <mightyBroccoli> > br0ken
I call those features.
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[10:47:50] <zinid> 51
[10:47:54] <zinid> *RXZ DВЧОЛЛЬ
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[10:48:12] <mightyBroccoli> zinid, joining the spam business.
[10:48:20] <mightyBroccoli> zinid, joining the spam business?
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[10:50:07] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: lil'zinid on the keys again
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[10:54:13] <zinid> sorry 😁
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[10:56:20] <zinid> she grew up to the point when she can reach the keyboard easily, and she loves pressing buttons
[10:56:36] <Licaon_Kter> Heh
[10:58:14] <mightyBroccoli> that is actually a good reason to spam :D
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