Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, December 16, 2019< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[09:12:56] <Arek> hi, how to use mod_mam with sqlite? I'm getting error like: https://pastebin.com/nki2qE1i
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[09:22:56] <zinid> Arek, `db_type: sql`
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[09:23:22] <zinid> and read the doc
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[09:28:52] <Arek> zinid: ok, works that way
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[11:39:23] <stefan_rpi> Hello
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[11:41:51] <stefan_rpi> hi zinid, we tried to set up buffers for mod_proxy65 to the values you suggested. But Transfer speed only increased from about 25k/s to 35k/s . ejabberd 18.12 runs on a raspberry pi with raspbian buster. do you have an idea, how to find out why this is so slow? http_upload is working much faster. It's not very important for me with mod_proxy65, but it would be nice if it worked faster...
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[12:08:53] <zinid> stefan_rpi, are you using any shapers?
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[16:51:35] <stefan_rpi> no, i don't have shapers activated for proxy65. in the lan, i get nearly 800kb/s now, over the internet, it's the formerly mentioned 35kb/s.
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[16:54:23] <Licaon_Kter> stefan_rpi: do you really need it?
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[16:55:03] <stefan_rpi> hmm one could ask if really need jabber at all .. ?
[16:55:42] <stefan_rpi> I didn't have file transfers until now, now it works good with http_upload. but i wonder why there is feature that seems not work very good. ?
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[16:57:10] <stefan_rpi> Do other users have the same problem? or is it a special configuration problem that I have?
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[16:57:17] <Licaon_Kter> stefan_rpi: there are a lot of features, some good, some not so....
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[16:57:38] <Licaon_Kter> stefan_rpi:
> hmm one could ask if really need jabber at all .. ?
Meh...c'mon
[16:58:36] <stefan_rpi> I mean, I'm proposing jabber to friends and family, but most of them laugh at it or even ignore it..
[16:58:41] <Licaon_Kter> I didn't see 65 mentioned in the last 4 years as something used for anything, and I've tried to test it with RTB and never worked
Hence my questions
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[16:59:18] <Licaon_Kter> You don't propose Jabber (or XMPP) you propose Conversations or Quicksy or Dino or whatever....
[16:59:36] <stefan_rpi> http_upload is the better choice, of course. works very good with conversations.
[16:59:45] <Licaon_Kter> You be sure the server is up to date and that's it...
[17:00:18] <stefan_rpi> files are encrypted on the server (omemo), so it's not a privacy issue for the users.
[17:00:35] <stefan_rpi> but it would be nice anyway, if one could have direkt file transfers.
[17:00:51] <Licaon_Kter> Not sure you've proposed the  SS7 (lol SMS) or IMAP or TCP/IP  so why bother with "protocols" now?
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[17:01:38] <Licaon_Kter> Direct for what? What happens when I'm in the subway ....how do you directly download it now?
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[17:02:52] <stefan_rpi> ‎[17:59:37] ‎stefan_rpi‎: http_upload is the better choice, of course. ...
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[17:06:29] <stefan_rpi> after all, I'm wondering why it doesn't work as i expected. If it is a general issue of that module, ok, then it's like it is, and i can wait if there will be a better version in the future. If it is a configuration issue, and i can alter some parameters on my pi to make it work better, i would like to try it. !
[17:06:51] <debacle> Is it possible to configure ejabberd in a way, that certain users are obliged to have a TLS client cert, while all others go fine by username/password? Or would I need to virtual hosts for that? One host with TLS client cert only, one with username/password? (Sorry, I'm an ejabberd noob!)
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[19:14:49] <zinid> debacle, no, it's not possible, so only different domains
[19:14:58] <zinid> you can create a feature request though
[19:15:22] <zinid> I think we have something like that for jwt already
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[19:18:09] <debacle> zinid, many thanks! I can probably live with the different domains. I just want to make sure not to burn a lot of time in something that would not work :-)
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[22:26:38] <Holger> debacle: The poor man's solution to set a random (or empty) password for the cert-only users is not an option? (It's not if the same auth backend is used for other services I guess …)
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[22:48:30] <debacle> Holger, I just need to be sure, that certain users can only login with client certificate, while other users must be able to login without client cert.
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[22:50:28] <Holger> Yes and if you scramble the passwords of those certain users, they'll only be able to login with a client certificate, no? 🙂
[22:52:01] <debacle> Holger, can the password than be read by the server admin?
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[22:53:45] <Holger> You mean the one the client might attempt to use on login?
[22:54:15] <Holger> Or the one stored in the auth backend?
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[22:54:47] <Holger> The latter obviously depends on whether your auth backend stores clear-text passwords.
[22:55:41] <Holger> But this discussion feels like it might be quicker if you describe the use case in more detail 😉
[22:55:46] <debacle> Ah, I only now begin very slowly to understand. You disable password login for certain users by broken passwwords.
[22:56:02] <debacle> Ah, I only now begin very slowly to understand. You disable password login for certain users by broken passwords.
[22:56:04] <Holger> Yeah, sorry if that wasn't clear.
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[22:56:45] <debacle> Yes, this sounds good!
[22:57:01] <Holger> Hah.
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[23:01:30] <debacle> I just need to be sure, that certain "users" (IoT devices) are really genuine. Because the IoT devices allow changing servers, username/password cannot prevent imposters. Only a asymmetrical method can prevent this, where you have some secret on the device, that is never known to any server. TLS client certs seem to be good for that. But on the other hand, there are other users (not IoT devices, but you and me) who just want to get the data easily without TLS horrors.
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[23:03:25] <debacle> It might make sense to have different domains anyway, because it gives more flexiblity in other aspects, too. Putting devices and users in the same domain looks somehow wrong to me, just from gut feeling.
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