ejabberd - Sunday, January 5, 2020

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Sunday, January 5, 2020< ^ >

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[11:38:41] <edhelas> is there plans to add support for https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0411.html in ejabberd?
[11:41:41] <marc> Seems not soo complicated 😃 But zinid won't do it :(
[11:41:56] <marc> edhelas: why is this important?
[11:43:41] <daniel> It's already supported
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[11:52:59] <Kris> Ah Hi Daniel. Did you see this https://github.com/iNPUTmice/QuicksyServer/issues/1
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[12:01:34] <daniel> Kris, that issue prompted me to write: https://nitter.net/iNPUTmice/status/1212693381484290048#m
[12:03:05] <Kris> Ah, but that's actually a totally different thing...
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[12:04:52] <Kris> Also, is there an easy to use xep-227? Especially one that might work on servers where you are not the admin?
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[12:05:10] <Kris> Also, is there an easy to use script for xep-0227? Especially one that might work on servers where you are not the admin?
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[12:05:45] <daniel> no. but there can be
[12:06:38] <Kris> But it doesn't solve the easy to use "backup" identity or fallback issue that is implied in nomadic identity
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[12:07:30] <daniel> the idea is to keep your identity
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[12:09:00] <Kris> I agree with you that a central directory isn't ideal. But quicksy-Server could be a first reference implementation for a distributed methode
[12:09:35] <daniel> i don’t understand the need to reinvent dns
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[12:10:35] <Kris> daniel: I selfhost, but many do not (cannot). For them nomadic fallback identities would be really helpful
[12:10:46] <daniel> you don’t need to self host
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[12:11:03] <Kris> How?
[12:11:11] <daniel> there are a couple of xmpp providers that let you bring your own domain
[12:11:27] <daniel> just like there are email providers that let you do that
[12:11:44] <daniel> (actually i think most email providers do and it is sort of the norm)
[12:11:52] <Kris> Ah, OK. Almost the same. DNS configuration etc is also not really feasible for many
[12:12:08] <daniel> why not?
[12:12:24] <Kris> Will you mother do it?
[12:12:31] <Kris> Will your mother do it?
[12:13:03] <daniel> my mum’s xmpp address and email address are on my domain. so i guess the answer is yes
[12:13:18] <Kris> Yeah, my point exactly
[12:14:13] <Kris> So what will happen to all the quicksy users when you shut down the service?
[12:14:58] <Kris> Wouldn't it be great to have an easy way for them to migrate to another xmpp server?
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[12:15:35] <Kris> And for contacts to easily "follow" the connection to the new server?
[12:16:03] <daniel> well if you think that this is a problem go solve it
[12:16:24] <Kris> Fine :) I get your point
[12:17:10] <Kris> But you understand now that this isn't a "solved" problem in xmpp?
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[12:17:27] <daniel> it is solved in xmpp. it isn’t solved in Quicksy
[12:17:38] <daniel> and both of that is ok
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[12:18:12] <Kris> XEP-0227 solves maybe 20% of the issue
[12:18:15] <daniel> thats the inherit downside you get for having an easy to use quicksy
[12:18:28] <daniel> Kris, don’t focus on xep227; that's not the point
[12:18:31] <daniel> focus on dns
[12:18:59] <Kris> No fallback build in at all
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[12:19:28] <Kris> No easy following for 3rd parties eithet
[12:19:35] <Kris> No easy following for 3rd parties either
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