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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[01:11:00] <raver> Ok the admin web Section is working again after upgrade to 20.03, but some links are broken.  When You click virtual hosts in the menu on the left, then click on a link of a virtual domain,  then the links in the main area are broken, they have not the domain name in the url. The links in the menu on the left are working fine
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[06:25:46] <Holger> raver: Hm yeah.  The first two are broken, the remaining do point to global (not specific to that domain) stats.  Not sure whether that was the idea.  Doesn't make much sense to have those links in the main area at all right?
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[06:26:34] <Holger> edhelas: Extra _namespace_ isn't really possible to configure :-/
[06:26:40] <Holger> edhelas: What's the use case?
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[07:11:53] <raver> Holger: Yes, l was always wondering why they are redundant..
[07:13:00] <Holger> I guess whoever added that just didn't know what else to put there ;-)
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[07:13:29] <Holger> So yeah we should just ditch those links and put some random text there or whatever.
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[07:28:02] <raver> You could integrate converse.js instead 😁✌️
[07:31:01] <Holger> I'm all for ditching the web admin crap, and I use Converse myself. But I would not want to integrate it. This isn't systemd.
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[08:02:41] <edhelas> Holger basically the idea would be to do some experiments to add only a namespace on a MUC component, the idea is => when you add a muc it check the component caps, if it finds it the client considers the other mucs in the component as part of the same "group"
[08:03:10] <edhelas> it's basically to mimic slack/mattermost/whatever "team" chat solution
[08:03:56] <Holger> Ah this was discussed during the summit ...
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[08:06:19] <edhelas> ah
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[08:12:51] <mss_cyclist> >I'm all for ditching the web admin crap, and I use Converse myself. But I would not want to integrate it. This isn't systemd.
👍️ I would rather not see converse.js integrated.
Keeping the web admin would be nice. Imho it makes administrating user somewhat more convenient than doing it with ejabberdctl.
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[12:31:47] <badlop> broken links in virtual hosts page, tracked in https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3200
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[12:47:02] <tyler> Same thoughts re: Converse - Pretty good stuff, but let ejabberd do what ejabberd does. If someone wants to package ejabberd and converse together, let 'em
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[14:33:19] <Steven Roose> I have a friend who has Cisco Jabber at work and we tried to see if it could connect to our ejabberd server.
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[14:33:33] <Steven Roose> Is Cisco Jabber considered compatible with ejabberd?
[14:34:00] <Steven Roose> I'm getting this error:
2020-03-26 10:01:59.438 [warning] <0.11499.24>@ejabberd_s2s_out:process_closed:160 Failed to establish outbound s2s connection konuro.net -> [their server, redacted]: Stream closed by local host: Bad value of attribute 'xml:lang' in tag <stream:stream/> qualified by namespace 'jabber:server' (invalid-xml); bouncing for 25 seconds
[14:34:31] <Steven Roose> can't see any actual xml
[14:35:27] <Holger> Steven Roose: No, the Cisco client only works with Cisco servers.
[14:35:46] <Holger> (While you can use a standard client with Cisco servers.)
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[14:59:03] <ij> @Steven Roose it already starts with service discovery in Jabber: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/jabber/11_8/cjab_b_planning-guide-jabber-118/cjab_b_planning-guide-jabber-118_chapter_0100.html
[15:00:40] <ij> so, it looks for cisco_uds SRV records… don’t think that you can convince the client to either use _xmpp-client._tcp or manually configure it to use ejabberd, but might be worth a try… but then again you would certainly miss some other points like jabber-config.xml server by tftp or http-tftpd
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[15:21:27] <Steven Roose> Holger, I'm not talking about using his client with our server, but me talking with his cisco jabber account (while he uses his client)
[15:21:40] <Steven Roose> but the s2s connection seems to fail
[15:21:52] <Holger> Ah.
[15:21:56] <Holger> That does work for me.
[15:22:08] <Steven Roose> I'm getting this error:
2020-03-26 10:01:59.438 [warning] <0.11499.24>@ejabberd_s2s_out:process_closed:160 Failed to establish outbound s2s connection konuro.net -> [their server, redacted]: Stream closed by local host: Bad value of attribute 'xml:lang' in tag <stream:stream/> qualified by namespace 'jabber:server' (invalid-xml); bouncing for 25 seconds
[15:22:11] <Steven Roose> what would that error mean?
[15:22:17] <Holger> Hah.
[15:22:20] <Holger> I remember.
[15:22:22] <Steven Roose> would his server have something odd wrong?
[15:22:35] <Holger> Cisco bug I stumbled over myself.
[15:22:42] <Steven Roose> oh
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[15:22:50] <Holger> There's a workaround in recent ejabberd versions now.
[15:22:55] <Steven Roose> oh really?
[15:23:08] <Steven Roose> meh, ejabberd working around cisco bugs 😕 but well
[15:23:17] <Steven Roose> any chance cisco is going to fix that?
[15:23:21] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/xmpp/commit/af3a46e918cbad64a
[15:23:36] <Holger> I didn't bother (figuring out how) to ask them.
[15:23:45] <Holger> ij: Your job! :-)
[15:23:46] <Steven Roose> do you know if a company uses @<company>.com, do they host the cisco jabber server? or is cisco jabber a cisco-provided SaaS?
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[15:24:12] <Holger> You can host the Cisco Jabber server yourself.
[15:24:16] <Holger> (Co-workers of mine do.)
[15:24:58] <mss_cyclist> Steven Roose: You could use the servant to check which service the <company>.com uses.
[15:24:59] <Servant> mss_cyclist speak your mind.
[15:24:59] <Holger> Steven Roose: What ejabberd version are you running?  19.x should have the fix ...
[15:25:25] <Holger> !version zedat.fu-berlin.de
[15:25:46] <Holger> !info zedat.fu-berlin.de
[15:25:56] <Servant> Holger: zedat.fu-berlin.de is running jabberd version 5.9.2.53979.
[15:25:56] <Servant> Holger: !uptime zedat.fu-berlin.de resulted in: service-unavailable
zedat.fu-berlin.de is running jabberd version 5.9.2.53979.
zedat.fu-berlin.de has no contact addresses configured.
[15:26:10] <Holger> "jabberd"!
[15:26:13] <Holger> That's Cisco.
[15:26:17] <Steven Roose> !version konuro.net
[15:26:18] <Servant> Steven Roose: konuro.net is running ejabberd version 18.12.1.
[15:26:23] <Steven Roose> there yah go
[15:26:31] <reset> !version katadikos.gr
[15:26:32] <Servant> reset: katadikos.gr is running ejabberd version 19.02.
[15:26:41] <Holger> Steven Roose: Ah, so just before the fix.
[15:26:50] <reset> Hmm and i thought i was a lot behind on versions
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[15:28:25] <mss_cyclist> reset: technically spoken: you are
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[15:34:16] <ij> @Steven Roose I would recommend to open Cisco TAC cases for every incompatibility with Cisco XMPP software and explain your „business case“…. if there is no business case then Cisco won’t fix that bug
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[15:34:24] <ij> !version aida.de
[15:34:25] <Servant> ij: aida.de is running jabberd version 5.9.2.54426.
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[15:36:20] <ij> !version costa.it
[15:36:22] <Servant> ij: !version costa.it resulted in: remote-server-timeout
[15:36:31] <ij> oh my…
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[23:57:55] <bdx> > I've 2 bots running which responses to messages from users, but now they get 2 replies 😛
Isn't this a use case for XMPP components? You have a number of options. If the bots can talk to each other, they can negotiate who is going to reply. If they cannot, or they do not get a reply within a reasonable time, then a collision avoidance algorithm could help (if bots can detect the replies from other bots).
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