Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, April 9, 2020< ^ >
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[12:51:18] <perflyst> uh shiny new ejabberd docs, didnt noticed until now
[12:51:42] <perflyst> about ejabberd_stun, can i define a hostname? or i am forced to use turn. and stun.?
[12:52:27] <Holger> perflyst: What?
[12:52:45] <Holger> Who forces you to "use turn. and stun." (in what place)?
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[12:56:08] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: talk about stun/turn, where's 215? My server is not 110% compliant yet :((
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[12:58:25] <perflyst> well, lets say I already have a stun/turn server and SRV records for other programs where I can use a preshared secret key
now for upcoming call support (and for compliance tester of course like Licaon says ;) ) it is probably the best to use the built in sip because clients cannot auth to the turn server with a pre shared key...
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[13:00:18] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: It's at messaging.one!
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[13:00:24] <Holger> Well partly.
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[13:01:13] <Licaon_Kter> perflyst: is the load that high that you can't just set it as anon?
[13:01:15] <Holger> perflyst: So when you ask "can i define a hostname" you mean "how do XMPP clients receive auth credentials"?  I'm confused.
[13:01:27] <mss_cyclist> New documentation...
Is support for redis new or was either not documented or I just cannot remember.
[13:01:39] <Holger> mss_cyclist: It's not really new.
[13:01:54] <Holger> And I think it was documented.
[13:02:03] <Holger> And I see little reason in using Redis :-)
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[13:02:30] <mss_cyclist> Then somehow I must have managed to not have read it.
[13:02:51] <perflyst> well, lets say I already have a stun/turn server and SRV records for other programs where I can use a preshared secret key
now for upcoming call support (and for compliance tester of course like Licaon says ;) ) it is probably the best to use the built in stun/turn because clients cannot auth to the turn server with a pre shared key...
[13:03:02] <mss_cyclist> Holger: Why not use it? Is this too much overhead compared to RAM / Mnesia?
[13:03:54] <Holger> mss_cyclist: It will usually scale well enough but not as good as Mnesia and I see no advantage.
[13:04:21] <mss_cyclist> Then it will just make the setup more complex.
[13:05:03] <Holger> mss_cyclist: I mean Redis is very good at its job and I see good reason to use it for such tasks for other services who don't already have a native solution built-in.  But if you have Mnesia I don't see the point.
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[13:05:46] <mss_cyclist> Holger: Right. I should read more about Mnesia. (funny name for a DB actually)
[13:05:52] <Holger> Except maybe integrating the runtime data with your environment ...
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[13:06:57] <perflyst> > perflyst: So when you ask "can i define a hostname" you mean "how do XMPP clients receive auth credentials"?  I'm confused.
no, that is not what i meant
looks like what i meant is 215 and i found the issue + your pr on github
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[13:08:03] <Holger> perflyst: Though 215 will probably not solve the problem for your (non-XMPP?) "other programs"?
[13:08:14] <perflyst> yes i know
[13:08:51] <perflyst> but i expect that 215 has more weight than srv records?
[13:09:07] <perflyst> but i expect that 215 has more weight than srv records? for clients
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[13:10:01] <Holger> perflyst: Well I'd assume clients that implement 0215 would usually prefer that over DNS queries but that's obviously the client dev's decision.  In Jitsi Meet it's configurable ...
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[13:18:45] <daniel> perflyst, Licaon_Kter: the compliance tester deliberately isn't even live yet 😉
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[13:51:41] <Licaon_Kter> daniel: I can mvt dammit
[13:51:45] <Licaon_Kter> daniel: I can mvn dammit
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[13:52:34] <Licaon_Kter> > uh shiny new ejabberd docs, didnt noticed until now
Will the "old" one page stick? Holger
It was easier to grep around in one page only, now they're split all over
[13:53:22] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: No idea, I'm not involved at all.  badlop?  prefiks?
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[13:54:32] <badlop> yes, the old is in http://localhost:8080/admin/configuration/old/
[13:54:41] <prefiks> badlop did this, so you need to ask him
[13:54:45] <badlop> oh, sorry, that's the local url
[13:55:28] <badlop> the right link is at bottom of https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/
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[13:56:43] <Licaon_Kter> 👍
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[13:57:26] <badlop> btw, there's a cool search box in the top menu, try writting tls_
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[14:02:17] <mss_cyclist> badlop: wasn't that searchbox already present in the previous version?
[14:03:36] <badlop> yes, but i noticed it yesterday :)
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