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[01:11:10] <Alacer> >I'm still pondering with putting loopback on the default blacklist.  You don't really want to allow clients to relay traffic to the TURN server's loopback interface.  I just fear sslh users crying when the traffic that appears to originate from 127.0.0.1 is blocked by default ...
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[01:11:18] <Alacer> It seems time for another testing...
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[01:12:09] <Alacer> I used SSLH with ejabberd_stun using locahost in config...
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[04:51:02] <Alacer> > Holger Wrote:
> I'm still pondering with putting loopback on the default blacklist.  You don't really want to allow clients to relay traffic to the TURN server's loopback interface.  I just fear sslh users crying when the traffic that appears to originate from 127.0.0.1 is blocked by default ...
Holger: Licaon_Kter : Checked. So by default the ejabberd_stun listening for TURN on 5349 without 'turn_blacklist' does work with sslh confign using 'localhost'. when mentiined 'turn_blacklist: 127.0.0.0/8 , the localhost in sslh does not work and then the IPv4  of the Server was specified and it worked. Also please let me know that now for IPv6 we can specify turn_v6_ip similar to turn_v4_ip ?
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[06:12:17] <Alacer> So the default could be loopback also blacklisted with option to whitelist loopback or keep it this way... and in documents recommend blacklisting loopback
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[06:16:35] <Holger> Alacer: Thanks a lot for testing!
[06:17:12] <Holger> Alacer: Yes with the current code you can specify `turn_v6_ip`.
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[06:26:14] <Alacer> Thanks
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[08:11:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Hallo
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[08:37:29] <raver> Moin :)
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[08:44:17] <raver> I'm not sure whether my OAUTH login works at all. all Clients except Nextcloud OJXSC are working well with SCRAM-SHA1, but when I try to login from nextcloud via bosh I get following result: https://termbin.com/l60g (ejabberd trace.log) anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[08:44:47] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> My whole fucking network here is freaking out 🤣
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[08:50:58] <mfoss> Holger: I had a longer thought about turn_ip naming convention and was wondering if at this stage it would be a problem to have parameters `turn_ip` and `turn_ip_v6` like I mentioned earlier? My thinking is twofold: keep backward compatibility in an unchanged manner (so we don’t have both turn_ip and turn_v4_ip as valid params) and keep naming convention as in IPv6 and not v6 IP. What do you think? I’m asking now before we solidify this in the next release.
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[08:54:25] <mfoss> My thinking could be wrong though, this is not a super important thing. Just thinking how to make things easier for users in the small steps.
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[08:59:56] <Licaon_Kter> mfoss: +1
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[09:03:12] <Holger> mfoss, I didn't quite get the second part about the "naming convention as in IPv6 and not v6 IP".  We have that convention elsewhere?
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[09:05:28] <Holger> mfoss, regarding the part about backward compat and having two valid option names, note there's lots of prior art, we changed quite a few option names (or removed options) and have magic to handle that gracefully:
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/ejabberd_config_transformer.erl
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[09:09:11] <Holger> mfoss, if we stick to `turn_ip` I'd be slightly concerned it's a little ambigous/unintuitive to new users.  "Can I add a v6 address there?"  Also, specifying a `turn_ip` and a `turn_v6_ip` just looks a bit inconsistent/ugly in my eyes, but yes that's just cosmetics.
[09:11:25] <ChaosKid42> Holger: Tried latest HEAD today in my docker-configuration using v4 and v6. Seems to work like a charm.
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[09:11:55] <Holger> ChaosKid42, cool, thanks!
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[09:13:37] <jeybe> It doesn't matter if the ejabberd server is reachable under a subdomain instead of the second level domain specified as host in the ejabberd config, does it? One just have to set the right dns entries, without special config in ejabberd? (So for example, a ejabberd server reachable under xmpp.example.net could serve example.net by just setting the correct srv records)?
[09:14:06] <Holger> jeybe, right, that's the point of SRV records.
[09:14:32] <Holger> jeybe, you just run into issues with clients that fail to resolve SRV records; e.g., Tor.
[09:14:53] <Holger> mfoss, anyway, I don't want to decide this.  Maybe ask the others for opinions?  Back in the days Evgeny said you guys have an internal room, maybe ask there?  Or I could just ask Mickaël.
[09:15:09] <mfoss> Holger: by the naming convention I meant that everyone says IPv4 or IPv6, so turn_v6_ip should probably be called turn_ip_v6, right? But you are correct having a turn_ip_v4 explicitly instead of just turn_ip will imply there are v4 and v6 available with separate parameters.
[09:16:17] <jeybe> Holger‎, thanks
[09:16:34] <jeybe> So Tor users would have to set the correct hostname manually and it'll be fine?
[09:16:50] <Felix141> Yes
[09:16:54] <Holger> mfoss, ah, yeah, was pondering with `v6_ip` vs. `ipv6` (or `ipv6_addr`) myself.  So that's unrelated to the question whether to stick to `turn_ip`, right.
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[09:18:08] <Holger> mfoss, I went for `v6_ip` to keep it kinda consistent with the listener's `ip` option.  It's an *ip* (address), it's not a *v6*, if you know what I mean 🙂
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[09:19:15] <mfoss> Holger: yes, right. Sorry, it only shows I don’t feel the ejabberd naming convention yet :)
[09:19:21] <Holger> mfoss, but I have no strong opinion on this part at all.  I kinda find both `v6_ip` and `ip_v6` ugly.  It would need to be `ipv6_address` to make it non-ugly in my eyes, and then it's quite inconsistent with `ip`.
[09:20:28] <Holger> mfoss, nah it's not like I feel I'm right and you're wrong.  As I said right away this was the part of my patch I was most unsure about myself 😉  Shall I ask mikl for an opinion?
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[09:21:41] <mfoss> Holger, sure, ask him when you have a moment. But now I feel you were right all along to have `turn_v4_ip` and `turn_v6_ip`.
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[09:22:44] <Holger> 🙂  k, will do.
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[14:41:13] <Martin> Hmm strange, I have 3 clients with different prio’s connected to server, but now I had that all client did receive messages sent to that user.
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[14:41:28] <Martin> 3 clients from same user
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[14:43:22] <Holger> Martin, if you ask that way I guess those clients didn't enable carbons?
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[14:43:55] <Martin> No
[14:44:03] <Holger> Martin, what `type` of message?  `chat`, `normal`, `headline`, `groupchat`?
[14:44:08] <Martin> chat
[14:44:41] <Holger> Cannot happen 🙂
[14:45:03] <Holger> No idea.  If you can reproduce it we can try to look into it of course.
[14:46:12] <Martin> Yes I was also thinking that :P
[14:46:26] <Martin> Happy I connect the new version as component :P
[14:46:30] <Martin> That works a lot better
[14:47:11] <Martin> I can’t see prio via admin interface I think?
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[17:05:55] <Holger> Martin: You can via `ejabberdctl`.
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[17:24:28] <Martin> Ah ok, check it the next time when that happens
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[18:08:00] <iobug> hi guys!
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[18:09:19] <iobug> what exactly is the mod_pubsub?! It is required to setup DNS record for it?
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[18:14:37] <Holger> iobug: Short answer is "no, except possibly if your users use some 'social' clients such as Movim".
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[18:16:00] <iobug> I am using Movim too, but how it "utilize" my life?
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[18:16:33] <Holger> iobug: PubSub is an XMPP extension to implement publish-subscribe use cases which e.g. Movim uses for microblogging but can also be used for various other things. And is used internally for things such as publishing avatars, but doesn't require a DNS record for that.
[18:16:51] <Holger> iobug: Maybe ask in the Movim room?
[18:17:06] <Holger> xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join
[18:17:22] <iobug> Thanks Holger!
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