Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, June 6, 2020< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[12:35:15] <adgtl> Hello
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[12:42:06] <adgtl> Hello folks
[12:42:06] <adgtl> Hello
[12:42:18] <Holger> adgtl, what's up.
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[12:43:05] <adgtl> What is better macOS client
[12:43:06] <adgtl> I don't like this Adium theme
[12:43:13] <adgtl> Also why my messages take time to appear?
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[12:43:22] <adgtl> I see my messages after some delay
[12:43:29] <Holger> I don't know.  Maybe try https://beagle.im ...
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[12:44:14] <Holger> If you don't need end-to-end encryption, you could also try https://swift.im/downloads.html ...
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[12:44:37] <Holger> Or a server that offers a web client such as https://conversejs.org ...
[12:45:21] <Neustradamus_> Psi and Psi+
- https://psi-im.org/
- https://psi-plus.com/
MUC: xmpp:psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru?join
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[12:47:06] <adgtl> Hello
[12:47:18] <adgtl> My messages from BeagleIM are not appearing here
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[12:48:07] <Neustradamus_> Tigase MUC Room: xmpp:tigase@muc.tigase.org?join
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[12:48:46] <Holger> (The Tigase people develop Beagle.)
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[12:48:57] <ij> no problem writing messages in Beagle here…
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[12:49:23] <adgtl> Hello
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[12:51:47] <adgtl> Hello
[12:51:47] <adgtl> I don’t see any message
[12:51:48] <adgtl> Where are my message
[12:52:00] <adgtl> Hello
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[12:52:15] <adgtl> It takes a minute to see my message to appear
[12:52:24] <adgtl> Why is it happening like that?
[12:52:36] <adgtl> Can someone confirm that you see my message?
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[12:52:47] <xorman> > Hello
> I don’t see any message
> Where are my message
> Hello
> It takes a minute to see my message to appear
> Why is it happening like that?
> Can someone confirm that you see my message?
[12:52:51] <adgtl> It took a while to speed things for messages appear here
[12:52:54] <adgtl> Wow!
[12:53:13] <adgtl> For first few times when I logged in.. my messages were not appearing here..
[12:53:27] <adgtl> May be as I as logged in from other app as well with same credentials
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[12:54:00] <adgtl> Anyway folks
[12:54:04] <Eelco> Not likely, you can be online with one account on different client
[12:54:10] <Eelco> clients*
[12:54:14] <adgtl> I am building a webapp for Multi User chat using ejabberd
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[12:56:35] <adgtl> My issue is that I don’t find necessary api for that… I need to
1. Create a room
2. Register user
3. Join this user to room
4. Send messages to this room
5. Register other users
6. Join those users to the same room
7. Everyone else can see messages sent by others
8. See who is currently logged in (presence)
[12:56:59] <adgtl> What are the ejabberd APIs to achieve this?
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[12:57:18] <Holger> ejabberd is an XMPP server, so you'd use XMPP for that. Which is not totally trivial I'm afraid.
[12:57:26] <Eelco> I think you should look at the WebSocket examples.
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[12:57:57] <Holger> (ejabberd has a REST API but it's not really meant as a full-blown API for messaging but rather for admin tasks.)
[12:58:15] <adgtl> :mod_muc_admin.create_room(“adult”, "conference.localhost", "localhost")
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[12:58:36] <adgtl> :ejabberd_auth.try_register(“adgtl”, "localhost", “me”)
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[12:59:09] <adgtl> What’s the api to create room?
[12:59:18] <adgtl> Also what’s the api to send message to room?
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[12:59:30] <adgtl> What’s the API to read messages sent to muc room?
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[12:59:53] <Holger> adgtl, my answer won't change just because you ignore it and ask again.
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[13:00:44] <adgtl> Holger: what’s link for those docs?
[13:00:44] <Holger> adgtl, it might be easier to base your work on Converse.js which has explicit support for embedding it into your own web thing.
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[13:01:02] <adgtl> I am using https://github.com/processone/ejabberd
[13:01:13] <adgtl> I am also using https://github.com/discord/romeo
[13:01:44] <adgtl> But Romeo XMPP client seems to be missing many APIs for my usecase
[13:02:02] <adgtl> Also I really didn’t find any API to read messages sent to muc group chat
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[13:03:53] <adgtl> Folks, can you point me to right docs?
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[13:05:21] <Holger> TBH I'd recommend against using XMPP.  It's an XML-based Internet protocol, not a simple HTTP API thing which you seem to be expecting.
[13:05:23] <adgtl> Eelco Hello can you point me to right docs?
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[13:05:45] <adgtl> Holger This I am building for a client
[13:05:51] <adgtl> I am already late for delivery
[13:05:55] <Holger> Sounds bad.
[13:06:05] <adgtl> I am using Elixir Phoenix for web app and for chat I need to use ejabberd
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[13:06:23] <adgtl> I am not finding any info about APIs to use to create group chat with users
[13:06:46] <adgtl> Holger I understand, but it’s about building something and delivering
[13:06:48] <Holger> That's because there are no "APIs to use".
[13:06:54] <adgtl> Client won’t care if I give any reasons to him
[13:07:02] <adgtl> Holger then what’s there?
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[13:07:48] <Eelco> adgtl, https://github.com/processone/xmpp-websocket-client
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[13:07:59] <Holger> adgtl, maybe you have a little time to help me with my own problem?  I need to build and deliver a car for my client until this evening.  The client won't care about the reasons for this beind impossible.  Help me now.
[13:08:11] <Holger> I promised my client this will be no problem.
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[13:09:38] <adgtl> Hello
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[13:10:21] <adgtl> Holger thanks man
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[13:10:40] <adgtl> Folks anyone know the APIs for the use cases I have sent above
[13:10:51] <Holger> > then what’s there?
ejabberd is an Internet server that implements the XMPP protocol.  Like Apache is an Internet server that implements the HTTP protocol.  When you're building a web browser to talk to Apache, you need to read the HTTP standard.  When you're building an XMPP client to talk to ejabberd, you need to read the XMPP standard(s), e.g.:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6121
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html
[13:11:29] <Holger> > Folks anyone know the APIs for the use cases I have sent above
Stop spamming this room or we'll ban you.
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[13:12:14] <adgtl> I am not spamming.. you said that you can’t help so I asked others.
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[13:12:17] <adgtl> Thanks for links
[13:12:27] <Holger> I didn't say I can't help.
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[13:12:34] <Holger> I responded to all your questions.
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[13:12:43] <daniel> Now I'm kinda wondering how easy it would be to build a car from scratch
[13:12:46] <adgtl> okay.. but that’s for reminding me that ejabberd is implementation of protocol
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[13:13:11] <Holger> I even told you that the easiest solution might be following my suggestion above, i.e. to base your work on Converse.js.  And even that is anything but trivial.
[13:13:31] <adgtl> Holger: If you know Discord folks, they are contributing to this Elixir client named Romeo - https://github.com/discord/romeo
[13:13:47] <adgtl> And in programming languages, we rely on client libraries to follow a protocol
[13:14:05] <adgtl> We don’t write our own HTTP clients.. we use the ones tested and most contributed
[13:14:22] <adgtl> I am talking about Elixir XMPP client library for ejabberd server
[13:14:45] <Holger> Thanks for explaining me how programmers work.
[13:14:50] <adgtl> Also I need help in identifying APIs for my use case and if ejabberd supports those.
[13:15:11] <Holger> If you had asked about an XMPP library rather than an API, you might have gotten a different response.
[13:15:26] <adgtl> Here is a frank feedback - https://www.ejabberd.im/ is missing so much documentation. I wish I contribute to it someday.
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[13:15:29] <Holger> For Elixir, I'm not aware of a good XMPP client library though.
[13:15:42] <Holger> What documentation is missing specifically?
[13:15:51] <Holger> The one for the API that doesn't exist, you mean?
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[13:15:58] <adgtl> But right now I need more docs how to implement multi user chat.. I am still not able to figure out how to read messages sent to group chat room..
[13:16:01] <Holger> The *admin* API calls are documented here: https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-api/
[13:16:10] <adgtl> I also don’t know how to see currently logged in user in the group chat
[13:16:23] <Holger> You could try to abuse that API for your use case, but you will fail.  It's not an API for your use case.
[13:17:00] <adgtl> Holger, where to see each and every API documented for :mod_muc?
[13:17:01] <daniel> If your goal is to extent Romeo you need to read xep45
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[13:17:22] <daniel> And probably the two rfc to get a basic understanding of xmpp
[13:17:40] <Eelco> Or create your own API since you are hell bent on using one.
[13:17:43] <daniel> The three links Holger gave you are the documentation
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[13:18:31] <adgtl> Holger, but I am confused, I am implementing something which needs user or dev APIs.. I keep coming across admin APIs but do we need to rely on admin APIs?
[13:18:36] <adgtl> okay
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[13:18:59] <Holger> > but I am confused
I figures as much.
[13:19:06] <Holger> *figured
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[13:21:22] <Holger> If you're building a *web* client I don't see why you'd use Elixir rather than JavaScript in the first place.
[13:22:02] <Eelco> adgtl, Have you checked https://conversejs.org/docs/html/index.html ?
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[13:22:50] <adgtl> Okay.. here is story, client has production chat app (like Slack) but for health people / doctors, they use Ruby on Rails and client thinks moving to ejabberd would help them to scale better. What I am doing is Phase 1 to prove that ejabberd might work for their use case.
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[13:23:25] <adgtl> Client wants to move from Ruby on Rails to https://www.phoenixframework.org/
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[13:23:31] <adgtl> And that’s why they want to use Elixir
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[13:23:53] <adgtl> I am myself a Elixir developer and I can use JS. But as Discord etc use Elixir as client, I want to use Elixir as well
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[13:24:42] <adgtl> Converse looks interesting
[13:24:45] <adgtl> thanks
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[13:25:06] <adgtl> I can inspire from some other language XMPP client for ejabberd and port that to Romeo
[13:25:22] <adgtl> Hope things I sad cleared doubts
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[13:27:44] <Holger> You'd use Rails or Phoenix for dynamic server-side stuff.  For a web chat client, I'd want to talk to the chat server directly rather than introducing the additional hop of talking to your Phoenix code.
[13:28:32] <Holger> I.e. I would do `browser <-> ejabberd` rather than `browser <-> Phoenix <-> ejabberd`, because that additional hop buys you nothing but additional trouble.
[13:28:51] <Holger> Hence my confusion of why you're not just using JavaScript, like Converse.js and others do.
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[13:42:39] <adgtl> That’s great. I understand that.
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[13:43:22] <adgtl> But using Elixir has some advantages as we could have server state and do certain things on server and have this client which uses websocket to communicate to Phoenix
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[13:46:05] <Holger> Ok, you have been warned 🙂
[13:46:34] <Holger> And yes you _can_ do it that way of course.
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[13:48:15] <Holger> Next config option naming drama ahead! `protocol: udp|tcp|tls`. Or `transport` rather than `protocol`? Or something else?
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[13:49:24] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: why rename?
[13:50:25] <Holger> Renaming was so much fun!
[13:50:37] <Holger> No it's for my TURN thingy, not for ejabberd.
[13:51:51] <Holger> I figured I'd avoid the separate `tls` option.
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[14:00:35] <ij> holger: I would say: transport. Protocol is more like http, xmpp, smtp and such
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[14:01:42] <Licaon_Kter> `nu-sturnER` ? Yeah transport sounds good
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[14:08:06] <Holger> 👍 Thanks.
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[14:09:04] <Holger> ij: Does Beagle lower-case my nick?
[14:09:31] <Holger> Conversations doesn't highlight me that way.
[14:09:45] <ij> nope… only when I manually type it because users always complain when I use @nick ;)
[14:10:07] <Holger> Ah.
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[20:06:49] <adgtl> Holger: https://github.com/hedwig-im/hedwig_xmpp opened my eyes
[20:06:51] <adgtl> It uses Romeo https://github.com/hedwig-im/hedwig_xmpp
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