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[02:17:24] <daidoji> to expose mod_time do I need to do anything to authorize that?
[02:17:39] <daidoji> or should I be able to call that as any jid?
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[04:19:23] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> `systemctl stop eturnal` takes 20secs, but starting takes 2
Debug logs don't help, it just outputs 4 lines in 1sec
Let me rephrase
Running `systemctl start` takes 2 secs to get back to the prompt
While `stop` takes 20 *to get back to the prompt*
As in...not sure if eturnal is at fault of systemd
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[04:38:03] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: journal contains `[warning] Log rotation requires newer Erlang/O
TP version, ignoring 'log_rotate_*' options`
but eturnal.log does not, why?
[04:38:23] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: journal contains `[warning] Log rotation requires newer Erlang/OTP version, ignoring 'log_rotate_*' options`
but eturnal.log does not, why?
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[04:40:05] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: debug log complains about `debug] PEM file doesn't exist: /run/eturnal/cert.pem (<0.424.0>@eturnal:clean_run_dir/0:456)` while I don't have a `tls` listener, maybe it should not...useless.
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[06:38:53] <Holger> daidoji, `mod_time` will return the time to any JID.
[06:39:42] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, the `log_rotate_*` warning is spit out before (well, while) file logging is initialized.  Could change that but meh.
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[06:44:48] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, I'd guess it's eturnal's fault, not systemd.  Maybe `eturnalctl stop` fails to talk to `eturnal` and hangs.  Hence my questions whether e.g. `eturnalctl ping` (or `version`) work.  Then again, if `loglevel debug` worked you already ruled that out.  Hrm.
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[06:47:09] <Licaon_Kter> Work when exactly? ping/version
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[06:47:59] <Holger> Just while it's still running, before you try to stop.
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[07:20:19] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Will try
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[07:32:49] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], or maybe shutdown just takes that long on RPi 🙂  On my slow-ish dev VM, `systemctl start` takes 0.009s, `systemctl stop` takes 2.813s.
[07:33:13] <Holger> Stopping ejabberd is faster?
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[07:44:48] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> I don't have ejabberd here to compare.
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[07:48:32] <Holger> eturnal is running on slower hardware than your ejabberd?
[07:48:54] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> yes Pi1 vs Pi3+
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[07:51:01] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: How long does it take if you start a plain `erl` shell and call `init:stop().`?
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[07:52:44] <Holger> Shutting down the VM cleanly (which eturnal and `init:stop().` do) is way more expensive than you'd expect. But 20s does sound … slow.
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[07:53:54] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> start ~4sec, stop() abou 6
[07:54:00] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> start ~4sec, stop() about 6
[07:54:59] <Holger> Hmmm k.  So I'm still at "20s might or might not be normal".
[07:56:38] <Holger> `eturnalctl` starts up its own VM to talk to eturnal, so we're at 4+6=10 already.  Another 10 for eturnalctl-specific shutdown still sounds much but maybe ...
[07:57:18] <Licaon_Kter> I'll test with eturnalctl directly to exclude systemd shenanigans
[07:57:46] <Holger> (Ah that's not quite true, the `eturnalctl` VM is a trimmed-down thing that should be faster than starting up `erl`.)
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[08:02:13] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> `-home /opt/eturnal -- -noshell -noshell -noinput -b` is the repetition normal/needed?
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[08:11:11] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Looks like the log_rotate warning appear when run from eturnalctl
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[08:11:30] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Maybe and some actual info to `eturnalctl status` like ejabberd has
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[08:14:37] <Holger> I'm deviating from ejabberd in that I'm using generic Erlang tooling to create the `eturnal` command (which `eturnalctl` just wraps around to do `su "$user"`).  I.e. that's like a generic `ejabberdctl` script for arbitrary Erlang software.  It ships a number of commands such as `status`.  `status` is meant to be called by Init systems just to check whether the software is running.
[08:15:42] <Holger> I can add custom commands though, like I did for `loglevel`, `reload`, and `version`.  So if there's info that would be useful I can add a different `info`/whatever command.
[08:16:29] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> right
[08:16:36] <Holger> The `-noshell` duplication is useless, hadn't seen that thanks.  Erlang tooling is the culprit here as well.  I'll have a look.
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[08:20:31] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> ```
time sudo -u eturnal ./eturnalctl stop
real    0m19,974s
user    0m6,336s
sys     0m1,444s
```
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[08:21:21] <Holger> Hehe ok.  We could track down where time is spent but if there's no errors I guess it's "normal".  Wow.
[08:24:09] <Holger> You should be able to use it without sudo if you `cp ~eturnal/.erlang.cookie $HOME` (and fix permissions of the file) BTW.
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[08:24:56] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Then again
```
time sudo -u eturnal ./eturnalctl daemon
real    0m16,901s
user    0m8,627s
sys     0m1,620s
```
...so maybe it's not an issue, just a perception one...systemctl returns faster to prompt
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[08:26:33] <Holger> Real Erlang men just add a `setcookie $COOKIE` argument to the command to avoid all that `su` foo BTW (<https://github.com/erlware/relx/issues/803>).
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[08:28:04] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> f that, I'm running all the other 99% of admin commands with sudo, ain't gonna change now
[08:29:17] <Holger> 🙂
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[08:35:27] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> regarding the cookie in ps, your system should have `hidepid` setup for procfs and such 😉
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[08:36:33] <Holger> Yeah, still a bad default I think.
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[08:54:57] <Holger> Licaon_Kter [cnvrs], https://github.com/erlware/relx/pull/807 ...
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[09:47:20] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> ```
time sudo -u eturnal ./eturnalctl ping
pong
real    0m3,267s
user    0m2,235s
sys     0m0,562s
```
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[09:47:50] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> kinda the same time for `version`
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[13:19:34] <Holger> If you think eturnal is crappy try MongooseICE.
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[13:21:17] <Holger> Single password, config via environmental variables, single password for all clients, and so much marketing …
[13:21:28] <Holger> Config via environmental variables, single password for all clients, and so much marketing …
[13:21:41] <Holger> Config via environmental variables, single password for all clients, UDP-only, and so much marketing …
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[13:40:40] <Licaon_Kter> Sounds good to me lol
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[13:41:49] <Holger> Config via environment variables, single password for all clients, UDP-only, and so much marketing …
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[17:55:01] <Holger> !version messaging.one
[17:55:02] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 20.04.69-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[18:05:29] <Alacer> Holger, Licaon_Kter: Well Yesterday when waa wrking with eturnal om x86-64 VM it was not taking 20 secs... I didn't time it but 20sec is too lomg to get unnoticed... may be a sec or 2..
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[18:40:35] <Licaon_Kter> Alacer: lol, yeah, good job, compare my Pi1 with anything else ;))
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[19:40:20] <Alacer> P1 is the 8088 of Pis... 😉
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[22:23:21] <daidoji> A question about mod_time example.
[22:23:45] <daidoji> I've enabled it in the config, get no errors
[22:23:53] <daidoji> and I'm trying to query it as in the spec
[22:24:01] <daidoji> but its failing saying "no module supports this query"
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[22:24:39] <daidoji> then when I look at the example, I see the `process_local_iq` only has 'type = get' but it doesn't seem like it has the other stuff in the spec listed
[22:24:46] <daidoji> so how does the stanza get to that module?
[22:25:13] <daidoji> for reference here: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/src/mod_time.erl#L57
vs https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0202.html#examples
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[22:36:53] <Holger> Ah the module is missing service disco indeed.
[22:37:00] <Holger> How did you query it exactly?
[22:37:27] <daidoji> I tried two different ways.  One by sending via gajim console and another by calling it from conversejs code that I wrote myself
[22:37:32] <Holger> Did you use `to=example.com`?
[22:37:42] <daidoji> I did not
[22:37:56] <daidoji> the example looked like jids so I just used my jid in the to and from attributes
[22:38:04] <Holger> That's what you need to do to address the server.
[22:38:46] <Holger> The example assumes you're querying another client, not a server.
[22:39:01] <Holger> Server JIDs have no user@ part.
[22:39:04] <daidoji> really?  The whole spec is written as if I'm querying a server though
[22:39:09] <daidoji> <iq from="daidoji@i7laptop.com" id="time_1" to="daidoji@i7laptop.com" type="get" xmlns="jabber:client"><time xmlns="urn:xmpp:time"/></iq>
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[22:39:20] <daidoji> so I should change the to to just "i7laptop.com"?
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[22:40:01] <Holger> Yes.
[22:40:17] <daidoji> oh okay, yeah that worked thanks
[22:40:18] <Holger> And I don't see what you mean about the spec assuming server communication.
[22:40:24] <Holger> 👍
[22:40:25] <daidoji> oh that works thanks
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[22:41:16] <daidoji> Holger oh you're right.  I guess I just assumed it was server time only
[22:41:18] <daidoji> but its any entity
[22:41:19] <daidoji> my bad
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[22:43:38] <Holger> I guess querying other clients is actually the more common use case. Some clients show what time (zone) the contact has.
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[22:44:11] <daidoji> ahhh, I see.
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