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[03:22:59] <Licaon_Kter> conv: umm?
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[05:36:57] <compliance> Hello,
Need a help to debug ejabberd 20.07, eturnal 1.1.0. A/V connecting only, then disconnected. Already open corresponding port.
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[05:38:32] <Licaon_Kter> compliance: say that again
[05:41:40] <compliance> Need a help, why a/v doesn't work. I am using eturnal.
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[05:45:37] <Licaon_Kter> compliance: ok, so, `netstat -tupan|grep LISTEN` shows eturnal listening on 3478 udp and tcp?
Firewall is opened for 3478 udp and tcp and 49xxx-65000?
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[05:46:29] <compliance> Eturnal.yml
listen:
    -
      ip: "::"
      port: 3578
      transport: udp
      enable_turn: true
    -
      ip: "::"
      port: 3578
      transport: tcp
      enable_turn: true
Ejabberd.yml
mod_stun_disco:
    secret: "<secret>"
    services:
      -
        host: aa.bb.cc.dd
        port: 3578
        type: turn
        transport: udp
      -
        host: a:b:c:d
        port: 3578
        type: turn
        transport: tcp
      -
        host: aa.bb.cc.dd
        port: 3578
        type: stun
        transport: udp
      -
        host: a:b:c:d
        port: 3578
        type: stun
        transport: tcp
        
listen:
  -
    port: 5322
    module: ejabberd_c2s
    max_stanza_size: 262144
    shaper: c2s_shaper
    access: c2s
    starttls_required: true
  -
    port: 5323
    module: ejabberd_c2s
    max_stanza_size: 262144
    shaper: c2s_shaper
    access: c2s
    tls: true
  -
    port: 5369
    module: ejabberd_s2s_in
    max_stanza_size: 524288
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[05:48:05] <compliance> Firewall opened for 3578, tcp, udp. Also listening 3578 tcp, udp.
> ok, so, `netstat -tupan|grep LISTEN` shows eturnal listening on 3478 udp and tcp?
> Firewall is opened for 3478 udp and tcp and 49xxx-65000?
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[05:54:38] <Licaon_Kter> Didn't I say that Conversations won't read SRVs so it won't know 3578 is your non standard port?
[05:54:47] <Licaon_Kter> Why change that?
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[05:59:51] <compliance> Sorry dont know what you mean.
Is it means ejabberd listening port for a/v only can be set to 3478?
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[06:01:27] <Licaon_Kter> Try that first yes
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[06:01:47] <Licaon_Kter> eturnal in your case...
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[06:20:02] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: The port is communicated via 0215, i.e. by mod_stun_disco.
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[06:25:03] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: oh, didn't know that, I only remembered the not using SRV part so I thought....wrong
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[06:25:18] <Licaon_Kter> compliance: so, eturnal.log sees anything at all?
[06:29:22] <compliance> Cannot change to 3478,my snikket/coTURN listen at 3478. That's why i set eturnal port at 3578 :)
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[06:34:15] <conv> Licaon_Kter: trying to configure host to be example.com on server.example.com. keep getting ssl not found for upload.example.com which I think should be upload.server.example.com.
Could it be it doesn't matter? Or am i missing a configuration step?
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[06:39:13] <compliance> Is it possible to have a/v call with custom port 3x78, Holger? Maybe i missed some config?
I know eturnal can use custom port, another machine i have eturnal announced at 3578, and prosody listened at 3578. A/V call works.
> The port is communicated via 0215, i.e. by mod_stun_disco.
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[06:49:12] <Licaon_Kter> compliance: why not use coturn then?
[06:50:08] <compliance> Can I used it? coturn inside docker
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[06:55:21] <conv> Licaon_Kter: trying to configure host to be example.com on server.example.com. keep getting ssl not found for upload.example.com which I think should be upload.server.example.com.
Could it be it doesn't matter? Or am i missing a configuration step?
[06:55:28] <Holger> > Is it possible to have a/v call with custom port 3x78, Holger?
Yes. But yes what Licaon_Kter says, I see no reason to run two TURN servers.
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[07:00:42] <Licaon_Kter> compliance: if prosody can any program can, use the same secret lol
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[07:27:24] <conv> Seems the certificate not found error can be ignored as long as no s2s connections.
[07:27:46] <Licaon_Kter> conv: that's an odd conclusion
[07:28:44] <conv> Was going through some conversation on GitHub with similar issues from 2018. That was the conclusion
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[07:28:59] <conv> Is it wrong?
[07:29:26] <conv> > Licaon_Kter: trying to configure host to be example.com on server.example.com. keep getting ssl not found for upload.example.com which I think should be upload.server.example.com.
> Could it be it doesn't matter? Or am i missing a configuration step?
By the way, I'm talking about this
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[09:21:03] <antranigv> Hey all! how are you?
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[09:21:32] <antranigv> is there any XMPP Push Notification App Server that you guys can recommend? ideally something that works with FCM.
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[09:23:46] <Licaon_Kter> antranigv: github.com/inputmice/p2
[09:24:23] <Licaon_Kter> conv: `host` is what exactly?
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[09:31:35] <edhelas> Licaon_Kter Holger is there many servers that have deployed push notification ?
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[09:35:12] <Licaon_Kter> edhelas: what do you mean? That's OOB for ejabberd default config...
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[09:59:38] <antranigv> Licaon_Kter: Any other options? or at least a documentation on how to make one :(
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[10:05:08] <Licaon_Kter> antranigv: what's wrong with that one?
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[13:58:28] <antranigv> Licaon_Kter: I don't understand, the push server is XMPP server?
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[13:59:09] <antranigv> All I want is, when the user gets a message and their offline, to get a notification via FCM/GCM/APNS
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[13:59:23] <antranigv> now I'm okay with writing my own push server, I even prefer it.
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[13:59:48] <antranigv> but I don't know what to send to ejabberd, and what will ejabberd send, and how will ejabberd know which server to send the payload to.
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[14:07:36] <Licaon_Kter> antranigv: your app (published on Play) has a hardcoded push server, the one you host, ejabberd magically registers with it
[14:07:47] <Licaon_Kter> > I don't understand, the push server is XMPP server?
Why would you care? Use it...
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[14:08:35] <antranigv> but I'm writing my own client
[14:08:42] <antranigv> I have no idea what to send to ejabberd
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[14:09:17] <antranigv> to be fair, all I want is to use Firebase to send notifications to users :D
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[14:11:49] <Licaon_Kter> Read again, also read https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0357.html
As a developer you can't say "I have no idea" :))
[14:12:06] <antranigv> Licaon_Kter: you always win :)))))
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[14:15:14] <antranigv> Licaon_Kter: okay now I get it, I use p2 as an XMPP PubSub, which has everything that I need (FCM key and link) inside it. now that I get
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[18:30:08] <karstensrage@tigase.im> hi
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[18:31:03] <Holger> Hi.
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[18:31:49] <karstensrage@tigase.im> what is the conference part of conferenc.process-one.net?
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[18:32:47] <karstensrage@tigase.im> im very new to xmpp, this is the first time ive used it in any capacity im aware of
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[18:36:00] <Slava Bendersky> Hello Everyone, is stun module should accept proxy protocol settings  ?
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[18:38:39] <Slava Bendersky> I get error unknown option on latest version for stuns/turns port 5439 listener
[18:39:09] <Licaon_Kter> Slava Bendersky: post log
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[18:42:45] <karstensrage@tigase.im> or is there a better place ask basic introductory questions?
[18:42:58] <Felix> karstensrage@tigase.im: the 'conference' indicates, that this address (JID) is a room, not a user :)
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[18:43:42] <Slava Bendersky> https://paste.centos.org/view/31387c18
[18:43:45] <karstensrage@tigase.im> my other question is that for a mobile game app, with private chat, game room chat and all chat is ejabberd a good solution to consider?
[18:43:54] <Slava Bendersky> That log
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[18:44:29] <karstensrage@tigase.im> @Felix
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[18:44:45] <Felix> karstensrage@tigase.im: xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join
Maybe this room, except you're interested in server-side related topics.
[18:45:07] <karstensrage@tigase.im> @Felix is conference a convention used by XMPP ?
[18:45:18] <Felix> Yes
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[18:46:28] <Felix> karstensrage@tigase.im: Just use my name, without the '@'. Otherwise I won't get notified ;)
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[18:46:46] <karstensrage@tigase.im> ok Felix
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[18:47:27] <karstensrage@tigase.im> so thats not something one would customize or change
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[18:47:38] <karstensrage@tigase.im> its either conference or a user
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[18:49:05] <Felix> karstensrage@tigase.im: You can change it on the server, but I wouldn't know any reason to do so.
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[18:49:30] <karstensrage@tigase.im> alright
[18:49:53] <karstensrage@tigase.im> and for the game chat solution ejabberd is appropriate?
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[18:50:14] <Licaon_Kter> karstensrage@tigase.im:
> my other question is that for a mobile game app, with private chat, game room chat and all chat is ejabberd a good solution to consider?
Yes, many games use XMPP like Fortnite
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[18:51:12] <karstensrage@tigase.im> in reading the documentation it suggested asking experts prior to starting, to avoid getting into a situation where trouble was present due to initial decisions
[18:51:14] <Felix> > and for the game chat solution ejabberd is appropriate?
And ejabberd is a good XMPP server, so: yes ;)
[18:51:39] <karstensrage@tigase.im> ok
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[18:52:04] <karstensrage@tigase.im> this client is a little laggy in terms of showing the updates, is that a typical thing or just this client
[18:52:16] <Felix> What documentation do you mean?
[18:52:19] <karstensrage@tigase.im> using adium
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[18:53:33] <karstensrage@tigase.im> https://docs.ejabberd.im/get-started/
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[18:53:50] <karstensrage@tigase.im> "That's why, if you plan to reach huge volume, it is recommended to start asking advices from day 1 to an ejabberd expert <http://www.process-one.net/>. Initial mistakes in the solution design are harder to fix once the project is in production."
[18:53:52] <antranigv> there is still no good client for macOS :(
[18:53:59] <Felix> Updates means new messages?
I use Conversations and all messages are delivered and received instantly. I don't know Adium. It's a PC client, right?
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[18:54:11] <antranigv> Felix: it's a macOS client
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[18:54:28] <karstensrage@tigase.im> are the client libraries for IOS, for example, "good?"
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[18:54:35] <antranigv> yes!
[18:54:42] <antranigv> the libraries are really good!
[18:54:46] <karstensrage@tigase.im> ok great
[18:55:12] <antranigv> one day I should just sit and start making a new client for macOS.
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[19:02:13] <Wojtek> > there is still no good client for macOS :(
uhm - have you tried BeagleIM? Any issues enoutered (that we could fix or improve)? :-)
[19:02:42] <karstensrage@tigase.im> ill try it
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[19:06:38] <karstensrage> Hi from beagle
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[19:07:14] <karstensrage> Hi from BeagleIM
[19:07:23] <antranigv> karstensrage: hi! how is it?
[19:07:28] <antranigv> karstensrage: I'm using Psi+.
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[19:07:54] <karstensrage> Hi
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[19:08:50] <karstensrage> Hmm much more laggy
[19:08:57] <karstensrage> Or at least to get started
[19:09:01] <karstensrage> Now it seems ok
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[19:09:28] <karstensrage> Wojtek, crashed when I didn’t put the right JID for the server in
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[19:09:50] <karstensrage> And super laggy to get started but now seems very performant
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[19:10:01] <karstensrage> Nice UI though
[19:10:10] <ij> > And super laggy to get started but now seems very performant
no problems with performance over here
[19:10:57] <ij> >> there is still no good client for macOS 😟
> uhm - have you tried BeagleIM? Any issues enoutered (that we could fix or improve)? 😊
One thing: support for „/me“ would be nice ;)
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[19:16:08] <Wojtek> > Wojtek, crashed when I didn’t put the right JID for the server in
did you happen to get stacktrace (the log that is showed after application crash)? what do you mean "not right JID"?
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[19:16:43] <Wojtek> > And super laggy to get started but now seems very performant
what do you mean "super laggy"? slow to start or slow to draw windows? (it's using native macOS controlls so there shouldn't be any lagging)
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[19:17:42] <karstensrage@tigase.im> hold on work calls
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[19:18:03] <Wojtek> @karstensrage (and @ij ;-) ) bugs/feature request are welcome: https://github.com/tigase/beagle-im/ :-)
[19:18:59] <ij> @Wojtek you are asking for more issues? ;)
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[19:19:35] <ij> I thought I leave some for Holger :)
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[19:21:25] <Holger> 🙂
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[19:22:29] <Holger> After using Siskin for a few days it seems I'll end up posting way less than I expected 🙂
[19:23:14] <Wojtek> 👍
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[19:28:44] <Holger> I mean there's always room for improvement but I'm now looking at things such as reducing resolution of cat pics before uploading them, or whatever. First world problems. Last time I checked iOS clients I immediately stumbled over numerous issues that needed fixing to make message delivery reliable.
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[19:29:49] <Holger> To be fair I'm testing with OMEMO disabled. OMEMO is obviously good at making everything fall apart.
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[19:39:37] <antranigv> Hey holger, which clients do you use?
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[19:44:02] <Holger> antranigv: Conversations on Android, Dino on Linux, Converse.js on other desktop systems.
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[19:44:25] <Holger> And now testing Siskin/Monal on iOS.
[19:44:29] <ij> Indeed… sometimes I have real issues with OMEMO… while one client has no issues, the other can’t be convinced to use OMEMO… maybe I can provide some info on next weekend… need to thest with Beagle on my parents’ Mac….
[19:45:16] <ij> well, should be more something for the tigase muc, though
[19:45:36] <Holger> I'll try to test OMEMO as well but don't use it for my main account so can't test real world conditions that well.
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[19:46:50] <Holger> (And I don't want to enable it for the main account after teaching my ~200 contacts to switch it off for me 🙂)
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