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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[00:34:38] <daidoji> raver oh you're right it doesn't look like there's one for error.log https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/guide/managing#erlang-runtime-system
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[00:37:08] <daidoji> EJABBERD_LOG_PATH might just go to the directory where all the logs are stored.  Def not clear from the docs though
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[02:56:16] <compli.pro> Everytime updating certificate, do i need to restart ejabberd?
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[05:12:13] <Licaon_Kter> compli.pro: `ejabberdctl reload_config`
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[06:00:49] <raver> daidoji: so it is even not clear if it is the path to the log `directory` or `file` l had understand it is the absolute path to the log `file` 🙂
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[06:03:34] <wunderfitz> Somebody here understanding firewall/iptables config for ejabberd server?
[06:03:52] <wunderfitz> i had a look on the trashserver git repository
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[06:04:10] <wunderfitz> and he preroutes some ports with iptables
[06:04:13] <wunderfitz> ip6tables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 2a01:360:50e:1::254/128 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to-destination [2a01:360:50e:1::251]:3443
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[06:04:56] <wunderfitz> from here:
[06:04:57] <wunderfitz> https://github.com/ThomasLeister/trashserver.net-xmpp
[06:05:59] <wunderfitz> "we're providing TUNS on a custom port instead if 443 to circumvent permission issues with the "ejabberd" system user"
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[06:12:11] <wunderfitz> Does prerouting forward just everything from 443 to 3443 and therefore all other services on the Webserver must be adjusted to listen to 3443 as well?
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[06:57:15] <Holger> wunderfitz: If you want both web server and other services such as XMPPS on 443 you need some other solution.
[06:57:37] <Holger> wunderfitz: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368
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[06:59:00] <Holger> raver: Yes LOG_PATH is the directory. You can't move ejabberd/error/crash.log into separate folders.
[06:59:18] <Holger> raver: Crash dumps are something else.
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[07:04:25] <wunderfitz> > wunderfitz: If you want both web server and other services such as XMPPS on 443 you need some other solution.
Would you avoid that? I know standalone has highest security level but should this be standard? Im thinking about this because of wanting to share the server with/for others to convert to XMPP. At the moment I run a Nextcloud in parallel.
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[07:07:44] <Licaon_Kter> wunderfitz: there's no security benefit
A multiplexer like sslh or nginx would just redirect to the proper daemon
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[08:46:02] <wunderfitz> so using Apache I need to setup sslh
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[08:47:57] <Licaon_Kter> Or nginx :))
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[08:55:14] <wunderfitz> which is a better idea?
[08:55:31] <wunderfitz> or equal result
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[09:02:36] <wunderfitz> as I'm a xmpp noob, any recommendend complete wiki/tutorial for a webeserver configuration?
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[09:03:00] <wunderfitz> step by step, if available
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[09:10:34] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> ahhh...the one you are able to setup 🙂
I recommend sslh so go read that
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[09:10:43] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> and take a look at
https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/54d4656cc753b98e1dc0d81a59a73faa
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[09:20:48] <wunderfitz> thanks
[09:21:42] <wunderfitz> what do you have as  "restricted: true/false" in stun/turn? i see different values there.
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[09:23:11] <wunderfitz> I know  I can read this everywhere but some interactive troubleshooting from time to time pushes motivation
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[09:24:13] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> I have what where? Restricted what?
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[09:42:32] <wunderfitz> in ejabberd.yml under  modules: mod_stun_disco:
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[09:48:13] <wunderfitz> i saw different values on different configs i had a look at
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[09:48:30] <wunderfitz> restricted true sometimes restricted false
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[09:52:57] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> Didn't mess with it, so it's as default
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[10:20:50] <raver> Holger:  hmm am three files are created in the logs directory of ejabberd folder, and l simply made a symlimk to my real folder, but l'd like to rename the `error.log` and `crash.log` sothat it has the prefix ejabberd in it. I always have to look inside the files to know that they belong to ejabberd 🙂
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[10:21:04] <raver> Holger:  hmm all three files are created in the logs directory of ejabberd folder, and l simply made a symlimk to my real folder, but l'd like to rename the `error.log` and `crash.log` sothat it has the prefix ejabberd in it. I always have to look inside the files to know that they belong to ejabberd 🙂
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[10:36:55] <wunderfitz> did you create subdomains for the stun/turn service or does it run without?
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[10:47:10] <Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]> as you wish, without here
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[10:51:13] <wunderfitz> is ufw allow enough or is more sophisticated iptable config needed
[10:52:01] <Holger> raver: I think that's hardcoded, sorry. Never seen that request before 😉
[10:52:43] <Holger> wunderfitz, Licaon_Kter [cnvrs]: The one reason for subdomain might be 443 multiplexing by means of SNI.
[10:52:55] <Holger> Assuming libwebrtc does SNI (dunno).
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[10:56:56] <wunderfitz> > Holger‎
ok, sounds like reading about multiplexing first
[10:57:45] <wunderfitz> i would like to keep everything as simple as possible and therefore thought to try without any subdomain, SRV records or any multiplexing thats why
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[11:26:45] <Holger> Sounds good. You only need multiplexing to cope with very restrictive WiFis/networks that refect all traffic except TLS on port 443. So if you don't expect your users to run into such networks (regularly), just use default ports for the moment.
[11:27:20] <Holger> (And e.g. just offer STUN/TURN via UDP on port 3478 like in the default config.)
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[11:52:33] <wunderfitz> > Holger‎
thanks a lot for your support. are you actually "the holger" that helped Mike Kuketz for his hardened config? i like to read his blogs from time to time.
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[12:16:20] <Holger> Heh, yes that's me (I know him from a little XMPP-related contract work that we did together).  I'm not really a big fan of that ejabberd hardening article though 😉
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[12:19:38] <Holger> I'm not a big fan of such setup tutorials in general, because they're hardly ever kept up to date and then admins follow them years later and end up with outdated/bad config. And my hardening trade-offs would be quite different for normal public servers.
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[12:20:02] <Holger> But of course I didn't convince him 🙂
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[16:47:03] <wunderfitz> I have this error:
[16:47:05] <wunderfitz> [warning] No HTTP listeners for ACME challenges are configured, automatic certificate requests are aborted. Hint: configure the listener and restart/reload ejabberd. Or set acme->auto option to `false` to suppress this warning
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[16:48:33] <wunderfitz> and
[16:48:57] <wunderfitz> 18:43:04.202 [warning] No certificate found matching upload.***.net
18:43:04.203 [warning] No certificate found matching conference.***.net
18:43:04.203 [warning] No certificate found matching pubsub.***.net
[16:49:04] <Licaon_Kter> wunderfitz: and you want acme or not?
[16:49:13] <wunderfitz> i have lets encryot
[16:49:16] <Licaon_Kter> wunderfitz: and you want auto acme or not?
[16:49:21] <wunderfitz> do I need acme on top?
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[16:49:32] <wunderfitz> or am I not getting it right at all :D
[16:49:34] <Licaon_Kter> Acme is the protocol tha LE uses
[16:49:44] <wunderfitz> aight  😅
[16:49:45] <Licaon_Kter> You get your certs via what?
[16:49:57] <Licaon_Kter> Certbot? Other?
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[16:50:58] <wunderfitz> certbot
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[16:51:22] <wunderfitz> Auto is always good
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[16:51:47] <wunderfitz> so i need to install acme and then make it connect to ejabberd?
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[16:51:57] <wunderfitz> or remove certbot first?
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[16:58:57] <Licaon_Kter> No, acme is the protocol, both ejabberd and certbot use this protocol to get the certs you need
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[16:59:32] <Licaon_Kter> Read this
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3075
[17:00:18] <wunderfitz> i didnt see any acme settings at the config of trashserver.net, which I use as a template
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[17:00:30] <wunderfitz> thanks for the link
[17:01:02] <Licaon_Kter> You should use the example from the ejabberd git as a base
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[17:02:51] <wunderfitz> ok
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[17:40:05] <marc> What is the reason that init() of my module is not called? start() is called
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[17:42:34] <Holger> marc: init() would be called if your start e.g. a gen_server (e.g. via gen_mod:start_child() or whatever the name was).
[17:42:43] <Holger> marc: init() would be called if you start e.g. a gen_server (e.g. via gen_mod:start_child() or whatever the name was).
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[17:43:24] <Holger> I.e. there's no ejabberd code that calls init() directly, that's a callback typically called by OTP behaviours.
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[17:56:17] <marc> Hm, I guess don't fully understand how modules work :D
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[17:58:12] <marc> Holger, start_link() is also not called from ejabberd?
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[17:59:09] <marc> Because ejabberd_auth.erl exports start_link() and this in turn calls gen_server:start_link() which, if I understand it correctly, calls init()
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[18:08:21] <marc> Holger, ah, ejabberd_auth is no module... makes sense
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[18:23:41] <Holger> Right.
[18:24:45] <Holger> marc, those are the functions that will be called by `gen_mod`:
```
$ grep 'callback[s ]' src/gen_mod.erl
-callback start(binary(), opts()) -> ok | {ok, pid()} | {error, term()}.
-callback stop(binary()) -> any().
-callback reload(binary(), opts(), opts()) -> ok | {ok, pid()}.
-callback mod_opt_type(atom()) -> fun((term()) -> term()) | [atom()].
-callback mod_options(binary()) -> opts().
-callback depends(binary(), opts()) -> [{module(), hard | soft}].
-optional_callbacks([mod_opt_type/1, reload/3]).
```
[18:24:54] <Holger> Anything else is OTP stuff.
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[18:25:48] <marc> Holger, thanks!
[18:26:01] <Holger> https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/extending-ejabberd/modules/#how-to-write-a-custom-module
[18:26:19] <Holger> This would probably be helpful as well if it wasn't outdated 😉
[18:27:08] <marc> Holger, yep, I think what I want/need is no module but a gen_server like ejabberd_auth
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[18:28:42] <Holger> marc: A module can be both, `grep gen_server src/mod_*`.
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[18:29:26] <marc> Holger, when do I need something like ejabberd_auth?
[18:29:35] <marc> XEP-389 is my goal fyi
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[18:32:50] <Holger> marc: That should go in a module, like good old mod_register. The _auth_ modules implement an API which is really just needed for actual authentication, not for registration. (Your module will just call one or two ejabberd_auth functions to perform the actual registration.)
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[18:34:24] <marc> Holger, okay, I had a good old module but somehow I miss a state that I can pass between my module functions
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[18:34:35] <Holger> marc: You want a gen_server if you want to keep registration states in RAM. But maybe you want to throw everything into the DB anyway, to survive restarts (dunno).
[18:35:18] <marc> Holger, just a basic state that does not need to be stored in a db
[18:35:34] <Holger> Then a gen_server probably makes sense, yes.
[18:36:02] <marc> okay, good to know. Will try to make it as general module again :)
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[18:38:10] <Holger> marc, Erlang's gen_server docs fully apply, except that you want to start the process by calling gen_mod:start_child() (which transparently adds your process to a supervisor).
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[18:38:34] <Holger> You declare both behaviours:
```
-behaviour(gen_server).
-behaviour(gen_mod).
```
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[18:39:44] <marc> Holger: I see, thanks!
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[18:59:47] <wunderfitz> can somebody help me with the http redirecting for acme auto?
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[19:00:07] <wunderfitz> im stuck on configuring sslh
[19:00:11] <nuron> !info shreddox.eu
[19:00:12] <Servant> nuron: shreddox.eu is running since 4 minutes 39 seconds
shreddox.eu is running ejabberd version 20.07-1~bpo10+1.
contact addresses for shreddox.eu are
- abuse-addresses : xmpp:admin@shreddox.eu
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[21:38:28] <andy_2639> hi.
The Ejabberd 20.07 Windows installer is not linked on
https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/
but it can be downloaded via this url
https://www.process-one.net/downloads/downloads-action.php?file=/20.07/ejabberd-20.07-windows.exe
Is this Ejabberd 20.07 Windows installer production ready or are there still issues like mentioned in the Ejabberd 20.07 blog post?
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[21:41:26] <marc> Holger, awesome, works - thanks!
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[21:42:43] <Holger> marc: 👍
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