Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, December 17, 2020< ^ >
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[06:40:07] <riau.pro> I installed ejabberd-20.07.deb using 'dpkg -i' cmd,is it safe to upgrade ejabberd by using 'dpkg -i ejabberd-20.12' cmd?
[06:46:27] <Licaon_Kter> Backup and try, leave feedback :)
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[06:57:03] <riau.pro> Which folder need to be backup? I am using mnesia backend
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[06:57:51] <Licaon_Kter> Everything :)
You should know... var/lib/ejabberd your config, dunno
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[07:30:31] <riau.pro> thank you, Licaon_Kter
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[11:41:17] <Neustradamus_> mfoss: New: There is SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS too ^^
-> https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-20-12/
[11:41:54] <Neustradamus_> There was only SCRAM-SHA-1 previously.
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[12:08:12] <ThUnD3|rGr33n> Neustradamus_: what client does it use ?
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[12:12:39] <robox> Is there such thing as throttling in ejabberd? I'm testing my application on my server and it seems ejabberd banned me for sending to many stanzas. How can I clean those bans and raise the limits?
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[12:16:23] <Holger> robox: There's no such banning (only traffic shaping).  Except maybe mod_fail2ban for registrations.
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[12:50:15] <Neustradamus_> ThUnD3|rGr33n: https://github.com/scram-xmpp/info/issues/1
[12:50:33] <Neustradamus_> Search "XMPP client"
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[13:06:51] <Alacer> For SIP & TURN still Plain Auth Mechanism will work or with 20.12 SCRAM can be used....
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[13:16:26] <prefiks> Alacer: it will probably not, at least i didn't touch those two modules
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[13:17:56] <edhelas> prefiks even if it's not really what I need, thanks for the precisions on the ticket https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3428 :)
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[13:20:32] <prefiks> yeah, you can set different config for modules per top level host, but indeed there is no way to have different options per internal module host
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[13:34:00] <Alacer> prefiks:  So I have to Play per Host ID for Auth.. But if user has same password, with SIP and SqlDB admin can look at it
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[13:37:20] <prefiks> Alacer: sip specification has just one authenticaiton mechanism, and i believe it needs to be available in plain form for it to work (i think it work similar to xmpp digest-sha1) so not really anything that we can do here
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[14:00:16] <Alacer> prefiks:  Thx..
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[15:48:13] <Holger> Yes, SIP auth requires clear-text passwords.
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[16:47:16] <Alacer> Holger: Thanks.. Yes SIP on another host name.. and Auth in PlainText is a little problem if user wants same Password cause Nomal Users tend to...
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[16:48:40] <Alacer> But SIP on ejabberd is a special case as well... But by the way I have kep Plain and run Both WebRTC & SIP with Same ID using Plain Auth in parallel for same uaer on same/diff. devices...
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[17:23:30] <Holger> > Holger: Thanks.. Yes SIP on another host name.. and Auth in PlainText is a little problem if user wants same Password cause Nomal Users tend to...
Well strictly speaking it's only a problem if (a) users re-use passwords _and_ (b) admins give attackers access to passwords 🙂
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[17:31:00] <Holger> Attackers who control the XMPP server can often get access to passwords anyway, e.g. during registration or password change, or by enforcing SASL PLAIN. So I think the NEVER STORE PLAINTEXT PASSWORDS IN 2020 panic mode is a bit misleading.  All else equal, it's obviously preferable to store hashes.  But this blind binary-all-or-nothing judgement of security-related decisions goes on my nerves.
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[17:36:32] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: so you say, _use Signal_?
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[17:37:55] <Holger> Because no passwords?
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[17:52:47] <Licaon_Kter> Because _no servers_ :))
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