Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, January 29, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[09:12:40] <Licaon_Kter> 21.01 tagged, yay, gotta update
I'm still on the older 20.12.90 :( ;)
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[14:28:57] <CEO> Ok
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[14:51:11] <badlop> finally https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-21-01/
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[15:02:03] <agentcasey> I've only just started running my own xmpp server. The version I'm running is 18.12.-1-2 how seamless is it to upgrade to the latest version? I don't want to fiddle with my working instance and have to start over from scratch but running a recent version does seem appealing. I'm running my instance on a server running Debian stable so that accounts for the earlier version. Any thoughts?
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[15:03:17] <Licaon_Kter> agentcasey: sql or not?
[15:03:48] <agentcasey> not
[15:04:02] <Licaon_Kter> Then...just upgrade
[15:04:08] <Licaon_Kter> 20.12 is in backports
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[15:04:25] <agentcasey> Thank you.
[15:04:27] <Licaon_Kter> agentcasey: read the older release blog posts though
[15:04:34] <agentcasey> I will.
[15:04:35] <Licaon_Kter> For each version
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[15:05:17] <agentcasey> I will I wont rush into anything before I read the docs first.
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[15:10:31] <Alacer> badlop:
> badlop wrote:
> finally https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-21-01/
👍👏
[15:10:52] <Alacer> To the whole Process-One Team...
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[15:31:22] <paul> hi all, anyone here knows if the mam::Fin should also have a queryid attr? xep doesn't seems to say so but ejabberd sends one
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[15:38:27] <ben> i see in the release notes for 21.01 that there's a migration script for mysql for the new schema
[15:38:40] <ben> is it compatible with mod_admin_update_sql and running it with ejabberdctl update_sql ?
[15:38:46] <ben> or does that need to be run manually
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[15:40:00] <prefiks> you need to load it mysql command line
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[15:40:28] <prefiks> but before you do that you need to fill your domain name in that sql file
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[15:40:33] <CEO> K
[15:40:42] <prefiks> (it should complain if you don't do that)
[15:41:23] <CEO> Hey
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[15:41:39] <ben> i'm not running more than one domain on here but i figured it would be nice to update to the new schema
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[15:53:52] <CEO> Ok
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[15:56:03] <Licaon_Kter> CEO: test failed
[15:56:42] <CEO> s2s_in open works here but not for conversations channel.
[15:57:03] <CEO> Probably they require s2s_tls_in port open
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[15:57:36] <CEO> I don't want to leave both ports open. Will just use the tls one
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[16:01:35] <Holger> Sorry, Carlo.
[16:01:43] <Holger> Probably closed too many ports.
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[16:05:19] <CEO> Is there a migration guide to 21.04 ? I am currently on 20.04. Looking at the changelog I don't see mentioning any config change
[16:05:23] <Neustradamus_> mfoss: I recall that ejabberd 20.12 was not in planet.jabber.org
The 21.01 too.
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[16:35:46] <prefiks> CEO: i don't think there were any changes that require manual updates between those two versions
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[16:42:42] <Licaon_Kter> velkoz, leos: yes, your server works, what now?
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[16:47:07] <prospo> OK I tested what I needed thanks.
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[16:55:27] <prospo> Licaon_Kter: do I need both stun udp and tcp ports open? Either one works for calls for me. Is the tcp one fallback if udp doesn't work?
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[16:56:06] <Licaon_Kter> prospo: you sure TCP works?
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[16:58:56] <prospo> Licaon_Kter: I had all ports closed and audio calls couldn't connect. Opening either stun tcp or stun udp worked. Now I have both open in my firewall.
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[17:00:29] <prospo> Those are ports 5349 and 3478 in default config.
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[17:06:19] <Holger> prospo: Just UDP is enough, see the example config.  But you also need the high port range (49152--65535 by default), otherwise TURN relaying won't work.
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[17:14:36] <prospo> Holger: I don't use turn relaying, just stun. I have the tcp port for stun open as fallback but might use only udp as you say.
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[17:15:02] <Holger> Oh I see, yes for STUN that's good enough.
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[17:17:11] <prospo> Alright will close tcp stun and leave the udp one open.
[17:17:14] <prospo> Thanks
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[17:21:13] <prospo> Although the tcp one seems to have tls, which might make it more secure. And anyway stun just starts the connection, so performance would be the same between the two.
[17:21:36] <Holger> STUN via TLS makes no sense at all.
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[17:21:44] <Holger> (libwebrtc doesn't even support it.)
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[17:22:06] <Holger> TURN via TLS (on port 443) can make some sense to circumvent restrictive firewalls.
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[17:23:19] <prospo> Oh I see
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[17:32:31] <prospo> Wanted tls mostly for encrypted communication with the stun server. I don't use webrtc currently
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[17:32:54] <prospo> Stuns or stun over tls works fine for my use case
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[17:34:25] <Holger> These sentences make little sense :-)
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[17:39:04] <Holger> The communication with the STUN server goes like this: Q: "Hey what's my IP address?"  A: "It's 192.0.2.42."  The attacker looking at the TLS-encrypted traffic can still see that IP address.
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[17:54:25] <prospo> Holger: I thought the address would also be encrypted. Then why the tls transport is used? Does it help some other way?
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[17:55:00] <Holger> > TURN via TLS (on port 443) can make some sense to circumvent restrictive firewalls.
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[17:55:47] <Holger> > Holger: I thought the address would also be encrypted. Then why the tls transport is used? Does it help some other way?
The address is encrypted. But not in the IP packet header 🙂
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[17:56:50] <Holger> > Wanted tls mostly for encrypted communication with the stun server. I don't use webrtc currently
You were talking in the Conversations room though, and Conversations uses libwebrtc.
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[17:58:07] <prospo> So calls with the conversations server wouldn't work. I just tried calls between two accounts in my server, using stun udp or tls
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[18:04:10] <prospo> By the way in which cases turn relaying is necessary?
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[18:06:07] <Holger> prospo: It's required whenever one client is behind a NAT/firewall that doesn't allow for connecting to that client.
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[18:07:05] <Holger> So it depends on the NAT type.  In practice, TURN is typically required if you're behind a mobile network.  Less often (but still sometimes) in typical home WiFi networks.
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[18:19:30] <prospo> So stun works only for asymmetric nat, and turn is needed for symmetric nat.
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[18:19:43] <prospo> So I need both.
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[18:45:26] <raver> Is there an SQL change for PostgreSQL from 20.12 to 21.02 for the new schema?
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[18:46:13] <raver> Would be cool to have link on the release page by the way
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[19:06:10] <prospo> Yes I am wondering that too
[19:06:46] <prospo> I am on 20.04 going to update to 21.02 and looking if anything changes in psql.new scheme, or config changes
[19:06:49] <badlop> Is there a SQL change for PostgreSQL from 20.12 to 21.02 for the new schema? <-- what does the announcement say?
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[19:09:36] <raver> https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/
... What do you mean?
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[19:10:24] <badlop> i mean https://ejabberd.im/
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[19:10:41] <Licaon_Kter> badlop, prospo, raver: no sql change
[19:10:52] <Licaon_Kter> It's 21.01 btw
[19:10:57] <raver> Licaon_Kter: 👌✌️
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[19:11:21] <badlop> Would be cool to have a link or hint on the release page by the way <-- right, each download should have a link to the corresponding announcement, to read the release notes
[19:11:39] <spla> I can't download 21.01 from process-one download page, access denied
[19:12:03] <spla> any of you can do it?
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[19:13:12] <ben> i've been getting that as well^
[19:13:25] <raver> I'll try soon using the installer accept
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[19:13:59] <badlop> ahh, there are typo errors in the URLs, it's 21.01, try
https://www.process-one.net/downloads/downloads-action.php?file=/21.01/ejabberd-21.01.tgz
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[19:15:31] <nova> I just finish setting up 20.12 and 21.01 out already 🤪
[19:15:38] <spla> badlop, yes! thanks
[19:15:40] <raver> So the links on that site aren't auto generated, crazy
[19:15:43] <ben> oh hah that would do it!
[19:15:58] <ben> the version number in the page title is wrong as well
[19:16:01] <ben> i'm guessing it'd be based on that
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[19:27:18] <raver> Done ☺️
[19:27:47] <raver> !info rimkus.it
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[22:02:58] <mfoss> Sorry for the version typo on the ejabberd downloads page, now fixed: https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/
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[22:16:31] <spla> mfoss, no worries and thank you for this new release
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[22:25:05] <mfoss> Thanks, I’m just the messenger, the real work is done by the amazing ProcessOne engineers :) here’s what’s new in ejabberd 21.01 https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-21-01/
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[23:27:21] <raver> mfoss: 👌👍
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