Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, February 3, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[13:55:31] <madmalkav> Are you aware of any command line xmpp client that supports file upload?
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[15:23:19] <ta> Like profanity/poezio/mcabber (all TUI) or like xmppc (CLI)?
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[16:06:32] <ta> the latter can be found here: https://codeberg.org/Anoxinon_e.V./xmppc (not the unmaintained github repo of the same name)
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[16:07:12] <ta> it does not have http upload, but the developer is quite active and might be pursuaded to implement it :)
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[21:05:02] <gooya> Hi! I was just wondering, how do you enable both scram-sha512 and scram-sha256 in the ejabberd config? Currently when I test my server in the xmpp IM Observatory it only displays scram-sha512 and scram-sha512-plus. But gajim doesn't support scram-sha512 SASL authentication mechanism and therefore I can't connect using any other client then conversations..
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[21:05:25] <gooya> Hi! I was just wondering, how do you enable both scram-sha512 and scram-sha256 in the ejabberd config? Currently when I test my server in the xmpp IM Observatory it only displays scram-sha512 and scram-sha512-plus. But gajim doesn't support scram-sha512 SASL authentication mechanism and therefore I can't connect using any other client except for conversations..
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[21:47:09] <Neustradamus_> Gooya: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/SASL_and_SCRAM-SHA-1(-PLUS)_/_SCRAM-SHA-256(-PLUS)_/_SCRAM-SHA-512(-PLUS)_/_SCRAM-SHA3-512(-PLUS) + https://github.com/scram-xmpp/info/issues/1
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[21:48:18] <gooya> I saw another server which runs ejabberd as well and it supported both scram-sha256 and scram-sha512
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[22:02:58] <Neustradamus_> ejabberd supports better SCRAM since 20.12
"We also improved the supported authentication methods with the addition of SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS, SCRAM-SHA-256(-PLUS) and SCRAM-SHA-512(-PLUS)."
- https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-20-12/
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[22:05:15] <Neustradamus_> gooya: About Gajim, please go: xmpp:gajim@conference.gajim.org?join and you can comment here:
- https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/issues/112
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[22:07:37] <Holger> gooya: It depends on your password storage. With plain text passwords, all SASL mechanisms can be supported. With scram hashes, only SASL PLAIN and the corresponding SASL SCRAM mechanisms are supported.
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[22:08:02] <Neustradamus_> I have listed all XMPP clients, librairies, servers in previous GitHub and wiki.xmpp.org links...
[22:08:25] <Holger> gooya: E.g. if you have SHA-256 hashes, ejabberd can only offer SASL SCRAM-256 and SASL SCRAM-256-PLUS.
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[22:08:44] <gooya> Thank you for your interest in my issue. I really appreciate your help. I checked the links that you've just send. However I'm aware of ejabberd supporting sha512 but the problem is that I need to configure both sha256 and sha512 on the server side to be able to use gajim. I also saw a post about gajim working on sha512 implementation on their client.
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[22:09:19] <gooya> https://xcherry.tech:5443/upload/32f7179d9a90142e8841e4463a7ab0578d606e92/zO30gNuk8PZE2MnBsElesOxEJlNLNheQ4vV78OIl/Qrtxky1uR6inq2Idxwn2qQ.jpg
[22:09:19] <gooya> > gooya: E.g. if you have SHA-256 hashes, ejabberd can only offer SASL SCRAM-256 and SASL SCRAM-256-PLUS.
Thank you for clarifying. But how does someone achieve this with ejabberd?
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[22:09:26] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: why do you need BOTH at the same time for Gajim?
[22:09:33] <Holger> gooya: Reread what I wrote?
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[22:10:16] <Holger> gooya: A server can offer all mechanisms if the passwords are stored inplain text.
[22:10:23] <Holger> gooya: A server can offer all mechanisms if the passwords are stored in plain text.
[22:10:29] <Holger> Which is the default.
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[22:10:48] <Holger> gooya: Just use SHA-1 or SHA-256.
[22:10:54] <Holger> Better SHA-1.
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[22:11:40] <Holger> This is quite precisely the incompatibility mess I've always been so excited about.
[22:11:41] <gooya> Oh my bad thank you for explaining. I had a really hard time figuring out what the problem was. Currently I'm already using sha512, how do you downgrade to a lower SASL mechanism?
[22:12:03] <Holger> Force everyone to reset their password.
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[22:12:10] <Holger> Yes this is a big mess.
[22:12:23] <Holger> And a good reason not to implement this stuff 😕
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[22:12:52] <gooya> Do you happen to know the comment for this? 😅
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[22:13:16] <gooya> > Force everyone to reset their password.
> Yes this is a big mess.
> And a good reason not to implement this stuff 😕
Beginners mistake 😥
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[22:13:49] <gooya> I shouldn't have switched to sha512 in the first place
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[22:14:17] <Holger> To be fair it's probably quite trivial to add 512 support on the client side (if they support SCRAM already).
[22:14:45] <Holger> But seems Neustradamus_ didn't talk lovetox into it yet?
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[22:15:02] <Holger> gooya: And Gajim could still do SASL PLAIN.
[22:15:11] <Holger> Or do you forbid that?
[22:15:16] <Holger> In the server config?
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[22:16:02] <gooya> > Do you happen to know the comment for this? 😅
I remember there was a comment to force all users to change their password but I'm not totally sure which comment it was..
And yes I disabled plain as an authentication mechanism
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[22:16:24] <gooya> With plain enabled gajim is working as expected
[22:16:35] <Holger> Ok.
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[22:17:23] <Holger> If you want compatibility with various clients, you basically have to decide whether to either store plaintext passwords or allow SASL PLAIN login.
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[22:17:55] <Holger> If you don't want either but still want to remain compatible with most, store SHA-1 hashes.
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[22:18:43] <Holger> Now that you already have SHA-512 hashes, path of least resistance might be to allow SASL PLAIN.
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[22:20:49] <Holger> That way you give modern clients the chance to insist on SCRAM-512.  Other clients can use SASL PLAIN and live with the (mostly academic, if you ask me) attack vectors.
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[22:23:29] <gooya> Okay thank you for clarifying. I'm not completely sure yet if I will allow SASL plain connections or change the auth mechanism to SHA-256. But I think with all of your information I will be able to make a well-decided choice on which one to choose from.
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[22:25:51] <gooya> Just to make sure SASL plain can't intercepted by MITM attacks right?
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[22:28:27] <Neustradamus_> I have reuqested the feature into ejabberd, to have possibility to have several SCRAM at the same time : SCRAM-SHA-1/256/512 and with or without PLAIN
When there is a new user, all hash are here
Old users have only the previous HASH
When an old user reset the password, all HASH are here
An option in configuration to force one SCRAM.
And at a moment, the admin will change to a new SCRAM easily
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[22:29:53] <gooya> > I have reuqested the feature into ejabberd, to have possibility to have several SCRAM at the same time : SCRAM-SHA-1/256/512 and with or without PLAIN
> When there is a new user, all hash are here
> Old users have only the previous HASH
> When an old user reset the password, all HASH are here
> An option in configuration to force one SCRAM.
> And at a moment, the admin will change to a new SCRAM easily
+1
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[22:30:30] <Holger> > Just to make sure SASL plain can't intercepted by MITM attacks right?
No, assuming you're enforcing TLS, which you most probably have. The additional security you get from enforcing SASL SCRAM is for the case where the attacker steals your private key.
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[22:33:30] <Holger> > When there is a new user, all hash are here
Old users have only the previous HASH
So Gajim works for some users and not for others.  You get a support nightmare for zero security gain.
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[22:33:37] <Holger> > When there is a new user, all hash are here
> Old users have only the previous HASH
So Gajim works for some users and not for others.  You get a support nightmare for zero security gain.
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[22:35:32] <Holger> You will never get rid of having to store the 'old' hashes.  Except make on tiny family and friends servers.  If I'm right with this assumption, there's not even a theoretical security gain in also storing 'newer' hashes.  Absolutely none.
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[22:37:03] <Holger> The only path forward I see is giving *new* server installations the choice to use a new password hash ago.  Which ejabberd now does.  Which leads to enough confusion already.  Let's not add even more on top.
[22:38:41] <Holger> And no your brilliant idea of simply asking all users to change their passwords at some point is definitely not a path forward, except maybe on those family and friends servers.
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[22:39:44] <Holger> XMPP is all about interop.  And now we already fail at logging in.
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[22:53:18] <gooya> > And no your brilliant idea of simply asking all users to change their passwords at some point is definitely not a path forward, except maybe on those family and friends servers.
It certainly isn't a brilliant idea, but for now I'm using the server just for family and friends until everything is configured how I would like it to be.
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[22:56:17] <Holger> gooya: I didn't mean you 🙂
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[22:56:38] <gooya> 😅🙏😊
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[22:57:13] <gooya> I would really like to contribute to ejabberd in some way but unfortunately I don't have any code skills
[22:57:20] <Holger> This is just a never-ending discussion with Neustradamus_ regarding the question whether there's a sane upgrade path for SCRAM mechanisms or not.
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[22:59:11] <gooya> Is it possible to make a contribution by making a translation to Dutch or something else which doesn't acquire code skills?
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[23:01:45] <Holger> Absolutely! 🙂
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[23:02:43] <Holger> gooya: https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/extending-ejabberd/localization/
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[23:07:59] <gooya> Thank you for sharing, I will start working on the translations later this week.
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[23:08:45] <gooya> There seems to be a lot of work that still need to be done
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