Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, April 3, 2021< ^ >
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[10:26:55] <elmar> May I ask something: I have a server running ejabberd on it. Let's say the host name is "example. com". Now I would like to install another xmpp-server on the subdomain "voip.example.com" on the same server with the same IP-adress. Is this possible? I tried to do this with a proxipass to port XXXX on the apache2-server for the port 5222 and the virtual host "voip.example.com". But I don't get any request on this new port XXXX when I send a message or try to logon. What is my mistake? Thank's for support.
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[10:35:16] <Holger> elmar, why I you trying to involve Apache?
[10:35:27] <Holger> The way you describe it this sounds very wrong.
[10:35:57] <Holger> ejabberd is an XMPP server, Apache (proxying) does HTTP instead.
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[11:28:41] <elmar> So, how can I redirect the subdomain "voip.example.com" to another port then 5222 on my server? My Target is to do a bridge where I redirect jingle requests (0166,0167,0176,0177,...) to account xxxx@clip.example.com to a sip phone service with the number xxxx. But I don't like to create an account for every phone number. So I would like to write a small second server on the subdomain that is doing this transport. Or is there a simpler way for this target?
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[11:30:19] <Licaon_Kter> ejabberd listens for all `hosts` on 5222, it will do the right thing for whatever host is asked by the client
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[11:30:33] <elmar> So, how can I redirect the subdomain "voip.example.com" to another port then 5222 on my server? My Target is to do a bridge where I redirect jingle requests (0166,0167,0176,0177,...) to account xxxx@voip.example.com to a sip phone service with the number xxxx. But I don't like to create an account for every phone number. So I would like to write a small second server on the subdomain that is doing this transport. Or is there a simpler way for this target?
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[11:32:16] <elmar> But how can I treat requests to xxxx@voip.example.com without creating this accounts on ejabberd?
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[11:40:55] <Alacer> elmar: Whats the need of another xmpp server....
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[11:43:51] <Alacer> Also voip.example.com can have traffic on another port lets say 5060
[11:44:52] <Alacer> if you are using sip for voip then ejabberd can be used for it as well so other xmpp server not required...
[11:45:09] <elmar> Alacer: I would like to do a phone call over a sip-agent. Therefore I would like to use the jingle protocol to a virtual user xxxx@voip.example.com. and forward the SDP to the sip provider.
[11:45:19] <Alacer> but sharing the purpose or hinting it may help
[11:46:08] <Alacer> Well elmar ejabberd has support for sip
[11:46:52] <elmar> so how can I connect to a sip provider? Eg netvoip.ch?
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[11:47:05] <Alacer> and same user of ejabberd with a different domain in ejabberd.yml can be used...
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[11:47:54] <elmar> How do I such a configuration to dial a number inside the xmpp client?
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[11:48:36] <Alacer> elmar: for ejabberd there is no need for a number but look at
[11:48:38] <elmar> And redirect to the phone provider?
[11:48:40] <Alacer> https://jmp.chat/sp1a/credits/
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[11:49:48] <elmar> Ok, I will have a look.
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[11:53:27] <Alacer> On an XMPP meet there was presentation to show how asterix was bridged to an xmpp server.. Just search for it on web
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[12:02:02] <Robbilie> so i got a question, does mod_push work with mucs? and if so, is there anything special to take care of? any additional subscriptions?
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[12:04:44] <Robbilie> its really weird, i sometimes get pushes but it seems to be really spotty
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[12:16:06] <Alacer> Robbilie: Push is dependent on Push Server/ Push Proxy...
[12:16:40] <Robbilie> yeah i have an app server, it just doesnt get pubsub events in most cases
[12:16:44] <Robbilie> rarely it does
[12:16:50] <Robbilie> i dont know what it depends on though
[12:18:27] <Holger> Robbilie, MUC is presence-based, you'll only receive notifications while the user is joined to the room.
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[12:19:17] <Robbilie> so why do i manage to get some pushes then? that shouldnt happen then, right? considering pushes are for when you are not reachable
[12:19:23] <Holger> Robbilie, one hack to work around that issue is using `mod_push_keepalive` which tries to keep the client's XEP-0198 session open for a long time after the client disconnected.
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[12:19:43] <Holger> If you're building your own closed solution, there's other non-standard solutions such as MUC/Sub.
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[12:20:16] <Holger> https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/xmpp-clients-bots/extensions/muc-sub/
[12:20:39] <Robbilie> i saw both options but im still confused on why i was even able to get some pushes at all
[12:20:41] <Holger> The MUC successor MIX will solve that issue properly, but that's not done yet.
[12:21:04] <Holger> Robbilie, probably because the client's XMPP session was still alive.
[12:21:09] <Holger> Esp. if you're using XEP-0198.
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[12:21:59] <edhelas> MIX will be there soon™
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[12:22:31] <Robbilie> ^ 😀
[12:23:05] <Robbilie> so right now my client disconnects when it goes into background
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[12:23:17] <Robbilie> that would probably mean mod_push_keepalive wont help, right?
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[12:24:27] <Holger> Robbilie, it will help as long as you (1) enable XEP-0198 and (2) don't close the *XMPP* session before disconneting TCP.
[12:25:22] <Holger> Robbilie, e.g. the iOS clients Monal and ChatSecure go that route.  (And Conversations on Android, but that tries to remain connected anyway.)
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[12:26:57] <Holger> But yes right now this is one of the uglier corners of XMPP.  MUC was designed to be presence-based before mobile networking was a thing.
[12:27:50] <Robbilie> if i just force sub the muc members using mucsub, will mod_push pick that up?
[12:29:31] <Holger> I'm not 100% sure TBH 😂️
[12:29:39] <Holger> Can check for you later.
[12:30:16] <Robbilie> that would be much appreciated, ill try messing with the keepalive, but the mucsub approach sounds saner than hoping that the stream is kept alive while the websocket is closed
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[12:30:42] <Holger> (I wrote `mod_push` but I have no experience with MUC/Sub.  Except with a customer who does generate groupchat push notifications this way, but I modified things for them anyway and I'm not quite sure about the behavior out of the box.)
[12:31:10] <Holger> Yes MUC/Sub is saner if you're building a closed solution.
[12:33:56] <Robbilie> ill try mucsub rn, its just the single iq it seems
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[12:36:27] <Robbilie> ok well custom xml node building it seems
[12:37:16] <Holger> Robbilie: The part I'm unsure about from the top of my head is whether mod_push will deem the MUC/Sub stanza worth a notification. I think you can tell mod_mam to store MUC/Sub notifications (probably not done by default) and as a side effect, _that_ might trigger mod_push to notify. But I'd really have to look.
[12:37:48] <Holger> It's all totally straightforward right? 🙂
[12:39:19] <Holger> Ah do you support multiple devices per user?
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[12:40:14] <Holger> If you don't, MUC/Sub push notifications might just work out of the box after all. Might.
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[12:48:32] <Robbilie> i support multiple devices per user, even though it should be an edge case
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[13:43:11] <Robbilie> hm for some reason the result of the mucsub iq looks wrong
[13:45:00] <Robbilie> the response from the server is missing the item i subscribed to
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[13:49:42] <Robbilie> <iq xmlns="jabber:client"
    id="69d604d9-4a49-4e0b-8d2a-555eb589044b"
    from="fb0e76ef-5787-47eb-95d6-5eab264b5afa@localhost"
    to="78cc5fc3-1a96-421e-9d0d-d32395ac8a05@conference.localhost"
    type="set">
    <subscribe xmlns="urn:xmpp:mucsub:0" nick="61e2e59c-07db-48c6-9e57-dc94681a2eb1">
        <item node="urn:xmpp:mucsub:nodes:messages"/>
    </subscribe>
</iq>
<iq xmlns='jabber:client'
    xml:lang='en'
    to='fb0e76ef-5787-47eb-95d6-5eab264b5afa@localhost/61e2e59c-07db-48c6-9e57-dc94681a2eb1'
    from='78cc5fc3-1a96-421e-9d0d-d32395ac8a05@conference.localhost'
    type='result'
    id='69d604d9-4a49-4e0b-8d2a-555eb589044b'>
    <subscribe nick='61e2e59c-07db-48c6-9e57-dc94681a2eb1' xmlns='urn:xmpp:mucsub:0'/>
</iq>
[13:50:02] <Robbilie> am i missing something or shouldnt the subscribe response contain the item too?
[13:50:09] <Robbilie> https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/xmpp-clients-bots/extensions/muc-sub/
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[13:56:39] <Robbilie> interesting
[13:56:42] <Robbilie> now i get pushes
[13:56:46] <Robbilie> twice though
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[14:08:05] <Robbilie> the twice seems to be on me, although its still super unreliable
[14:08:34] <Robbilie> actually
[14:09:07] <Robbilie> i do get two notifications on my app server, one looks like mod_push triggered, the other one is lacking a lot of stuff
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[15:51:50] <Robbilie> i am probably also gonna run into another issue, the pubsub push stuff, if my app server is horizontally scaled aka replicated, then all instances will receive the task to push a push notification :thinking:
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[16:01:05] <Robbilie> Holger, are the mucsub messages looking correct or would this be an indication as to subscription not working?
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[16:40:40] <Robbilie> the ejabberdctl subscribe_room command also doesnt return anything, even though its documentation states it would, weird
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[19:57:55] <Robbilie> in an odd turn of events, pushes now work better on ios than on android for me…
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[21:31:39] <Robbilie> so this mucsub thing fells like a bug, muc_room_subscribers in the db has "nodes" listed as []
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[21:43:13] <Robbilie> okay so i was really dumb, its not <item node="urn:xmpp:mucsub:nodes:messages"/> bzt <event node="urn:xmpp:mucsub:nodes:messages"/>
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[21:43:16] <Robbilie> still, doesnt help
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[21:45:48] <Robbilie> it seems i do get "pushes" at the app server, but they are not "compliant" to the mod_push stuff
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[21:55:20] <Robbilie> which leads to marker updates triggering push notifications which is hillarious
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