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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[01:23:40] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/k4NClbGOX2VRFE38IXxiIAWVYLvqHVXxJVlPM1om/lpCmI-fKTPyFVj3qkSieQw.jpg
[01:24:17] <TT> I think my config is correct
[01:24:33] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/L2dSO2uktJcvH6lVjNt7z1q0zoAZSqtNpN6rQTnt/K9bAZh0SRdSsJHcRoVQA8w.jpg
[01:24:48] <TT> SRV record added
[01:25:10] <TT> but still can only make calling inside a LAN
[01:25:21] <TT> STUN seems not working
[01:25:58] <TT> by the way firewall opened as well
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[01:28:40] <TT> Can anyone help? Thanks!
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[02:17:38] <Alacer> TT:  Configuration of Services Ports i.e - 3478, -5349 is wrong.. it is turn_ipv4:  something..
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[02:19:35] <Alacer> Make it like     turn_ipv4_address: "x.x.x.x"
[02:19:38] <TT> Alacer: Thanks, but that was on the tutorial, I am not an expert can only follow official tutorial
[02:19:55] <Alacer> Also in case of IPv6 you have to define it...
[02:20:10] <TT> Oh I tried IP too
[02:20:24] <Alacer> I suggest to have it all first configured and running on IPv4 then look for IPv6...
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[02:21:02] <TT> I did try all set to IP address
[02:21:03] <Alacer> TT:
> Oh I tried IP too
Did you try the way it is mentioned in example file...
[02:21:19] <Alacer> > Make it like     turn_ipv4_address: "x.x.x.x"
[02:21:37] <Alacer> turn_ip is Old Config...
[02:22:15] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/ZZgR7EP3LdTaZHRxg0l1VjznekgO9Hou4J4UHnRz/IMG_20210412_102151.jpg
[02:22:25] <TT> you mean this right?
[02:22:25] <Alacer> Follow this: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/master/ejabberd.yml.example
[02:22:37] <TT> change to IP address?
[02:23:13] <TT> Great!
[02:23:31] <Alacer> > change to IP address?
Follow the exmple.. There are two Major Gaps You have
[02:23:36] <TT> Thanks a lot, I will try this!
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[02:23:54] <Alacer> 1. in the Listening ports config
[02:24:44] <Alacer> 2. Your TLS certificate.. WebRTC needs valid TLS habdshake so it will never work on internet and LAN is Peer-Peer..
[02:25:06] <Alacer> So also get an SSL cert.. Use LetsEncrypt or what ever..
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[02:25:38] <TT> Ah! that's the issue, I don't have a valid certificate yet
[02:25:39] <Alacer> Ensure you have DNS
[02:25:49] <Alacer> Follow this tutorial
[02:25:52] <Alacer> https://gist.github.com/iNPUTmice/a28c438d9bbf3f4a3d4c663ffaa224d9
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[02:40:18] <TT> I don't have a valid certificate but this doesn't affect text communication, right?
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[02:40:40] <TT> Alacer: only calling connection is not abl e to be established.
[02:41:35] <TT> Because obviously I am OK to communicate with others by text msg.
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[02:42:53] <Alacer> Yes.. The Mechamism used for calls needs a Valid Cert unless you are on LAN..
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[02:43:55] <TT> Oh, I SEE, thanks, as a beginner, get certificate and config it, is a bit complicated for me.
[02:44:12] <TT> Still struggling on it.
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[02:45:47] <Alacer> TT: It is simple... User Certbot..Do you have a valid Domain Name Registered...
[02:46:04] <Alacer> and DNS records created..m
[02:46:08] <TT> Yes, teamsuccrss.space
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[02:46:23] <TT> DNS done
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[02:46:39] <TT> teamsuccess.space
[02:46:48] <Alacer> Are you running a web server on it or no
[02:47:02] <Alacer> I am just asking ...
[02:47:17] <TT> I have VPS running Ubuntu 20.14
[02:48:05] <TT> domain name refers to VPS IP
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[02:48:49] <TT> but I have totally newbee to Linux😂
[02:50:01] <Alacer> Ok.. Thats is making it exciting.. anyways...
[02:50:10] <TT> very limited knowledge just following the tutorial and done the installation of ejabberd
[02:50:33] <Alacer> Nope You need some DNS records....
[02:50:50] <Alacer> including SRV records...
[02:51:05] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/73PrHWVZAQ7eqxOLaAPdmK5JRwjK2zOIviXoldSi/tTPpLeiWSRCTLnO1C_UBrQ.jpg
[02:51:30] <Alacer> check https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Main_Page
[02:51:39] <TT> I did all DNS records especially the SVR following tutorial
[02:53:44] <TT> I think this part I did it right, I am missing of certificate of domain
[02:53:51] <Alacer> By the way IP of your registered Domain and the one through which you are sharing Images is different.. ???
[02:54:10] <TT> No, the same
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[02:55:14] <Alacer> image is on IP 47.104.254.55 this does not corelate to The A record against your Domaim
[02:55:40] <TT> Oh, that one is my testing VPS
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[02:55:54] <TT> my this account is not on it
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[02:59:04] <test> test
[02:59:35] <TT> OK, now I am using the account on testing VPS
[03:01:02] <Alacer> So which IP corresponds to the A record of your domain.. the Production VPS or Test...
[03:01:37] <test> Alacer: begin with 115.28
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[03:02:10] <TT> This account I am using is on the testing VPS
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[03:03:14] <Alacer> Ok
[03:03:39] <Test calling function guy> I know how to set DNS correct
[03:03:51] <Test calling function guy> but lack of knowledge to do certificate
[03:04:04] <Alacer> Well let me know what DNS records you setup
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[03:04:36] <Test calling function guy> https://teamsuccess.space:5443/upload/2d410d4122f8dd872d756069248ceb791092d953/abMIBacCxwU98Sca4vohqgOeNRE7BKEV9Dn4N6z4/AcnuH2BdS4OGCrilTv0iDQ.jpg
[03:04:38] <Alacer> for certificate use acme.sh or certbot or ejabberd has acme built in as well
[03:06:17] <Alacer> Test calling function guy: You want to have calling primerily.. messaging is just there ..
[03:06:45] <Alacer> well you need more records for ejabberd.
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[03:07:20] <Test calling function guy> Yes trying to setup a call function for my ejabberd
[03:07:32] <Test calling function guy> msging is working ok
[03:08:57] <Test calling function guy> I followed the tutorial setup 6 SRV records for ejabberd
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[03:09:29] <Alacer> Test calling function guy: ok
[03:10:21] <Alacer> 1. Why DNS for your hosting provider are there.. Also SRV records for Upload, MUC, etc are missing..
[03:12:37] <Test calling function guy> OK, in the tutorial it only mentioned I need to setup the 6 SRVs in my DNS
[03:13:06] <Test calling function guy> :https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
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[07:26:12] <mfoss> The beginning of the tutorial mentions that it assumes you have the setup from the previous tutorials.
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[07:49:34] <TT> mfoss: YES I did followed the previous tutorial to setup server
[07:49:52] <TT> YES
[07:50:47] <TT> mfoss: I did follow the previous tutorial setup the server and able to send messages properly
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[08:18:05] <mfoss> I can’t see from your screenshot, apart from _stun/s do you also have _turn/s and _xmpp/s records?
[08:18:50] <TT> mfoss: YES
[08:19:34] <TT> I think my problem is SSL certificate
[08:19:48] <TT> I am not sure how to get and install
[08:20:05] <TT> Trying to figure out now
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[09:33:31] <mfoss> Ok I will try to make a tutorial about working with certs. ejabberd supports Let’s Encrypt, but in my series I assumed using an existing cert from your domain used for the homepage website. In that case it is just a matter of copying the cert files into the ejabberd cert dir.
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[09:38:51] <TT> mfoss: That will be great! since lots of people interested in setup XMPP server are not professionals like me.
[09:39:18] <Holger> TT: What client(s) are you testing?
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[09:40:17] <TT> mfoss: I can only follow tutorials setup the server, without knowing I need cert to enable calling, and no idea how to do it at all
[09:40:24] <TT> Holger: conversations
[09:40:52] <Holger> TT: Modern clients such as Conversations, Siskin, and Movim don't use those SRV records for STUN/TURN lookup at all.
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[09:43:46] <Holger> TT: What you need to make Conversations use TURN:
1) The default config: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/21.04/ejabberd.yml.example
2) Set `turn_ipv4_address` to your server's external IPv4 address in that default config.
3) Make sure UDP port 3478 and the UDP port range 49152-65535 is accessible on that IPv4 address by the client.
Done.
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[09:44:06] <TT> Someone told me my problem is I don't have a valid cert
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[09:44:36] <Holger> Valid certs are always good but TURN is the one thing were the cert is irrelevant, sorry ;-)
[09:44:36] <TT> without a valid certificate the connection can't be established
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[09:45:27] <TT> Ok, so without a cert, I should still be able to make calling over internet?
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[09:45:30] <Holger> Without a valid cert, your client might (or might not) refuse to connect to your XMPP server; remote servers might (or might not) refuse to talk to you; you might have trouble uploading catpics; and whatnot.
[09:45:35] <Holger> But TURN should work fine.
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[09:45:51] <Holger> (The default config only uses UDP, not TLS at all; and it makes sense that way.)
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[09:46:11] <Holger> TT: Yes.
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[09:46:24] <TT> but wired thing is text is fine, calling inside a LAN is fine
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[09:46:38] <TT> if calling over internet never work
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[09:47:05] <Holger> Then you missed one of the three steps I told you above.
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[09:47:36] <Holger> You're either not using the default STUN/TURN config or the UDP ports aren't accessible on your `turn_ipv4_address`.
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[09:49:14] <Holger> I'm aware the tutorial makes additional config suggestions, thought might be interesting to some users but may confuse others.  E.g. you should just be using `mod_stun_disco: {}` as in our default config, unless you have a good reason for more complex configurations.
[09:49:16] <TT> I opened the 3478 and 5349 on firewall
[09:49:24] <Holger> That won't do the trick.
[09:49:28] <TT> following the tutorial
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[09:49:39] <Holger> See my step (3) above.
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[09:49:50] <TT> Oh
[09:49:53] <Holger> I'm sorry but please just follow my three steps above for the moment.
[09:49:55] <TT> OK WILL TRY IT
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[09:50:09] <TT> THANKS!!!
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[09:50:16] <Holger> Thank me once it works ;-)
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[09:50:32] <TT> SURE
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[09:50:44] <TT> will feedback on this
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[09:55:33] <Licaon_Kter> TT:
> I opened the 3478 and 5349 on firewall
And the high range 49xxx-60xxx ?
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[09:55:41] <TT> Holger: this works with ver 20.04 right? strange thing is I can never install 21.04 successfully but 20.04 always work
[09:55:52] <TT> Licaon_Kter: YES I did
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[09:56:12] <Licaon_Kter> TT: why 21.04 fails to install?
[09:56:18] <Licaon_Kter> TT: why does 21.04 fail to install?
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[09:56:45] <TT> only says exit with error, I can try again
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[09:57:04] <Holger> TT: 20.04 was the first release to support this, there's been some improvements since then.  If you really want to stick to 20.04 you'd want to apply one or two config changes after all.  But better update to 21.04 first.
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[09:57:47] <TT> I AM TRYING 21.04 again
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[10:02:21] <Licaon_Kter> TT:
> only says exit with error, I can try again
How do you install? Which platform?
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[10:06:02] <TT> Ubuntu 20.04
[10:06:13] <TT> a VPS
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[10:08:24] <TT> shit, my office internet down, going back to home to setup, will feed back in 30 minutes
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[10:42:08] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/S3EHBLSvu8Gg6X9oHHYMTXRqu5IdI2xZpOaumVYn/Of5SdSZ2S-S-1CHraeoVHg.jpg
[10:42:40] <TT> Holger, Licaon_Kter: never successfully install ver 21.04
[10:43:51] <TT> I install 21.04 by using wget download and install, following the tutorial
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[10:44:41] <TT> just change download link to ver 21.04
[10:44:58] <TT> but same way install ver 20.04 all ok
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[10:51:45] <Licaon_Kter> What does the log say for 21.04?
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[11:06:43] <TT> Licaon_Kter: how to look the log?
[11:06:55] <TT> I am total new to this
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[11:09:55] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/VO71vldAH4h3GUaBmgSUTU7PAxc6UJ2IS0x9k9Tl/9UilE30zSIaveynDjbmSWQ.jpg
[11:10:05] <TT> Licaon_Kter: Is this?
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[11:10:59] <Licaon_Kter> No, `ejabberd.log` somewhere
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[11:12:42] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/YYF6Adqu6AyIkcV2NQFzLRtMLcoZwODhA1orBjRP/raGvcm8JSkWCNAVjecJt_g.jpg
[11:12:59] <TT> Licaon_Kter: I guess this one?
[11:14:25] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/9uiehbpnj0FPYs420DZmietA7Xw5BjXlTYOCLyD9/Xs0GjTPjS-CGSg0ZmKDVow.jpg
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[11:14:38] <TT> so need a valid cert?
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[11:23:12] <TT> I opened cacery.pem it is basically empty
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[11:29:20] <mfoss> Ah there was a bug in 21.04 binaries downloaded from ProcessOne website where the cacert.pem wasn’t correctly pulled from the curl website. It was quickly fixed, so please try redownloading the binaries and installing ejabberd again.
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[11:33:59] <TT> mfoss: Don't know how to do it
[11:34:05] <TT> very new to linux
[11:34:53] <TT> the same URL download again?
[11:35:10] <mfoss> Just repeat the steps from the beginning like you were installing in the first place.
[11:35:19] <mfoss> Same url.
[11:35:20] <TT> thx
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[11:42:57] <TT> a bit worrying still says starting hasn't show done yet,😂
[11:43:26] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/U724jVujBtJOik4QdSx2QU5wcVir5notgGgJQxvq/O_3ebO-RSlmOHLSw5vkNnA.jpg
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[11:44:48] <TT> strange!same problem
[11:45:05] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/UX7IVGeizYMyMp2DYZcuexsVQdqdZBdibXatZMS1/z31c888QSvyAlMW8euAo7w.jpg
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[11:45:57] <TT> cacert still empty
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[11:47:51] <TT> https://www.process-one.net/downloads/downloads-action.php?file=/21.04/ejabberd_21.04-0_amd64.deb -O ejabberd_21.04.deb
[11:48:00] <TT> I use this link
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[11:49:07] <mfoss> Hmm strange, that link is correct. Can you remove that existing cacert.pem file and try installing again? Just to make sure the issue persists.
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[11:50:06] <TT> I actually reinstalled my ubuntu VPS before the new install of ejabberd
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[11:50:32] <TT> ejabberd
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[11:51:21] <mfoss> Ok, so the the current binary still has an issue. Let me check myself then to sort this out, sorry.
[11:51:46] <TT> Thanks
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[11:54:32] <TT> I am re-imaging my Ubuntu VPS now, so clear for next installation, when you sort it out.
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[12:02:14] <badlop> the *.deb package has that problem, and the *.run installer is correct
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[12:07:15] <TT> But no tutorial how to use the .run binary file, as a new bee can't do it😭
[12:07:48] <TT> no very little of Linux
[12:07:57] <TT> know very little of Linux
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[12:35:01] <badlop> <TT> But no tutorial how to use the .run binary file <-- https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/installation/#install-on-linux
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[12:59:41] <TT> badlop: same problem
[13:00:00] <TT> with .run file
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[13:01:30] <TT> .run installation has a empty cacert.pem as well
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[13:14:45] <TT> mfoss: Is cacert.pem file pulled from a website during installation?
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[13:15:57] <TT> If so it could be I am inside great fire wall of China, maybe the website blocked. But 20.04 version is OK with this, still wired.
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[13:45:26] <yann-kaelig> I really think a little more explanation about TLS connection to Postgresql could be nice. So, I'm testing differents case of TLS connection and the first test is on a single TLS connection with password auth, no CA verification at all. In this case I just need on the server side a .crt and .key, the pg_hba.conf with hostssl and md5, nothing special on the user side, connecting with psql host=localhost dbname= user= it's working
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[13:47:34] <yann-kaelig> So I decided to test it with ejabberd , It should works with the sql_ssl = true nothing more, but it' doesn't work with the output > client certificates can only be checked if a root certificate store is available
[13:48:11] <yann-kaelig> I'm lost, why ? I do not need a ca in this first scenario,
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[13:57:00] <bluesky> Hello, being new in the chat room. Im planning to realize xmpp server on Raspberry Pi in privat lan with access from internet by use of portforwarding. Which setup can you suggest to stop unauthorized access from internet and to prevent access to ejabberd and so prevent access to lan from internet?
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[14:01:55] <Licaon_Kter> bluesky: define unauthorized?
[14:01:58] <Licaon_Kter> Port forward for? You want to access the server on the internet or not?
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[14:07:03] <bluesky> With unauthorized access I meant people/bots, which have no account on Jabber server. Port forwarding from router to my Jabber server to realize internet access.
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[14:12:31] <Licaon_Kter> They can't access unless they have an account yes. Just forward port 5222 (and others for audio/video etc)
Will you federate too? Then add 5269 too
[14:13:55] <yann-kaelig> It's working in fact that was my fault with an issue in my pg_hba.conf. So, good :) now let's increase the security with a ca verification
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[14:21:52] <bluesky> So easyest way would be simply install for instance ejabberd and forward ports 5222 and 5269? Whats about fail2ban to more secure unauthorized access?
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[14:22:56] <Licaon_Kter> bluesky: there's mod_fail2ban yes, see docs.ejabberd.im
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[14:52:45] <TT> https://47.104.254.55:5443/upload/9ec06d8fcd14ad7fc4dab38c71faf288c4d24ed6/UC1Zhkr3Fz9IQoQkSGm8l2YTjhz1kJz9JIvJV0YW/Cdu_1qJnS7KaK-BUf7uMXQ.jpg
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[14:55:32] <TT> It looks the same
[14:55:48] <badlop> your *.run file is the old one, with wrong cacert.pem
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[14:56:20] <TT> but that's the link on official website
[14:57:03] <TT> I downloaded from official website link
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[15:33:19] <yann-kaelig> it's working! lol I got it finally
[15:33:59] <yann-kaelig> so I can connect to the DB through ejabberd with a hostssl auth clientcert=1
[15:34:32] <yann-kaelig> I can believe it, I have ot chek again if I didn't made something wrong :D
[15:34:35] <yann-kaelig> 't
[15:36:06] <yann-kaelig> and in the ejabberd conf I have sql_ssl = on and the pem file, and that must be a pem file in a same way as explained in the ejabberd doc
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[15:37:06] <yann-kaelig> so, the ultimate connection would be now to enable verify-full
[15:37:20] <yann-kaelig> or verify-ca
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[16:00:08] <yann-kaelig> so, when I enable sql_ssl_verify on ejabberd side, I understand now why it doesn't work, it's a full verification with CN and hostname verification
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[17:38:40] <yann-kaelig> is ejabberd compatible with TLS v1.3 ?
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[17:47:21] <Licaon_Kter> Since 18.09 yes
[17:47:23] <yann-kaelig> well, I can not get the last piece of the puzzle to work, the sql_ssl_verify on true I get this issue https://dpaste.com/ADHR97QGR
[17:47:44] <Licaon_Kter> Well ejabberd is
sql libs? Dunno
[17:48:34] <yann-kaelig> I have my server.crt with CN=localhost and the client for ejabberd with a CN=ejabberd, the pem file as expected
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[17:49:02] <yann-kaelig> do not understand the handshake issue
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[17:51:39] <yann-kaelig> the rootca.crt file is also present
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[19:42:41] <yann-kaelig> well I found something new
[19:46:06] <yann-kaelig> I have combined the client.crt intermediate.crt ca.crt client.key in pem file, now I use enable sql_ssl_verify = true but it's only works if I do not use of the sql_ssl_cafile
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[19:48:21] <yann-kaelig> this is weird for me, the ca.crt shoudl be managed by the sql_ssl_cafile variable, but I get the issue posted previously
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[19:49:54] <yann-kaelig> I mean it should be possible to not combine the ca.crt file in the ejabberd.pem file and use the sql_ssl_cafile for this purpose ?
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[19:50:29] <yann-kaelig> or I maybe somethign  Ido not understand in the ejabberd sql_ssl usage
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[20:10:08] <yann-kaelig> ok, I see. To much time on the errors log than I forgot to check the jabber logs ... lol
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[20:11:31] <yann-kaelig> so, I give my tongue to the cat ^^
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[20:14:11] <yann-kaelig> if on psql side everything works as expected, I suppose then ejabberd is hidding something from me :) Okay I'm not going to fight against
[20:14:14] <yann-kaelig> you
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