Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, April 19, 2021< ^ >
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[03:48:02] <Robbilie> so im wondering, are chat markers part of MAM? i am trying to receive a chat marker update that one client has sent out but it seems its going to the void…
I am sending the marker update according to this and a client that receives the channels messages doesnt get that message at all…
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0333.html#rules-muc
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[03:49:56] <Robbilie> (they work properly if both participants are active)
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[03:52:44] <Robbilie> i guess chat markers are not working this way in ejabberd right now
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/1988
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[07:03:42] <Holger> Robbilie: As per XEP-0313, ejabberd only stores chat markers in MAM if they have a `<store/>` hint:
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0334.html#sect-idm45438033761088
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[07:04:13] <Holger> Conversations adds that hint to chat markers, for example.
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[07:32:38] <Robbilie> Those are only retrievable through mam and won't be sent to users on join, right?
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[07:51:00] <Holger> You're asking about mod_offline?
[07:51:31] <Holger> That's configurable, by default it would store chat markers (except for groupchat messages, which won't go to offline storage at all).
[07:51:51] <Holger> But only to the first client (if you're using multi-device).
[07:52:03] <Holger> Which is one of the reasons MAM was invented.
[07:52:49] <Holger> And once you're using MAM, mod_offline is redundant (clients might want to ditch the offline spool on login using XEP-0013).
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[08:09:55] <Robbilie> Is it mod offline? I can configure the number of old messages a client gets sent when joining a group chat and those don't seem to be marker only messages, or is your "except for group chat messages" only referring to markers in group chats?
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[08:19:51] <Holger> Okay so it's about group chats.
[08:19:57] <Holger> That's not mod_offline, no.
[08:20:28] <Holger> What you mean is another mechanism which has been superseeded by MAM.
[08:22:03] <Holger> Don't remember whether that old-school history would store chat markers, would have to check the code.  But if you support MAM, you wouldn't want to use that mechanism anyway (it was meant to give the user some context when joining an IRC-like channel, as opposed to offering proper offline sync; and when you're interested in chat markers you very likely want the latter).
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[14:43:17] <test> Holger: XMPP server doesn't kick the original client when another client sign in with the same account.
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[14:43:27] <test> Is this designed to be so?
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