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ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Sunday, May 2, 2021< ^ >
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[05:27:49] <masoud> AC79: you mean, Erlang or Lua? I couldn't care less.
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[05:46:20] <AC79> masoud: I meant which tutorial language is acceptable? You just need a tutorial for installing and configuring ejabberd?
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[05:54:23] <masoud> AC79: Oh I see. I need a tutorial for installing ejabberd for the purpose of a small family chat server with modern XMPP features (including A/V calling), which requires minimum maintaining effort (ideally none). As long as I can understand (or auto-translate) the tutorial, that's fine with me. Do you know some?
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[06:00:41] <AC79> You could start with compiling ejabberd, if the Ubuntu ejabberd is too old for your needs:
https://thomas-leister.de/en/install-ejabberd-from-source/
Afterwards, you could use this German guide to move on:
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/ejabberd-installation-und-betrieb-eines-xmpp-servers/
And for Audio/Video:
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
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[06:01:55] <AC79> You can also use the ejabberd which ships with ubuntu. Then you do not need the compiling part.
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[06:03:07] <masoud> Wow thanks. Indeed German would also be ok with me.
[06:03:14] <Deeg05> I've used buster-backports ejabberd
[06:03:16] <AC79> If you have problems with ejabberd.yml you could have a look at the git of trashserver: https://github.com/ThomasLeister/trashserver.net-xmpp
[06:03:21] <Deeg05> I bet ubuntu have similar repo
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[06:04:03] <masoud> Do you know if what ships with Ubuntu supports all modern XMPP features (including A/V)?
[06:04:32] <AC79> If it is ejabberd 20.04 or higher.
[06:05:18] <masoud> Ubuntu 20.04 has 20.07, so yay! https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/ejabberd
[06:05:49] <AC79> Ok, then you can simple use this one.
[06:06:08] <AC79> Do you also host a website on your server?
[06:07:14] <masoud> I prefer not to, to make things simpler. I've just bought a dedicated VPS just for this.
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[06:08:53] <masoud> As a sidenote (I know it is a polarizing topic): I really wish ejabberd was also packages as a snap. I use the snappy version of Nextcloud for my server, and I cannot be theoretically any happier. It is as seemless as nothing I have ever seen.
[06:08:55] <AC79> Ok.
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[06:09:52] <masoud> AC79: thank you very much for your help! 🙂
[06:10:32] <AC79> masoud: no problem. Good luck. I think you know the XMPP compliance test web site?
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[06:10:56] <AC79> You can use it to make simple checks.
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[06:11:59] <AC79> Additionally you can run these tests:
https://xmpp.net/
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[06:33:54] <Licaon_Kter> masoud: read, step by step
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-move-the-office-to-real-time-im-on-ejabberd/
&
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
&
https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-configure-ejabberd-to-get-100-in-xmpp-compliance-test/
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[07:52:09] <bluesky> Hello, can ejabberd bind different domains to different hosts?
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[08:01:23] <Licaon_Kter> bluesky: umm?
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[08:07:49] <bluesky> Meant: reach ejabberd host www.example1.com on port 5222 and www.example2.com to port 5223
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[08:14:26] <bluesky> ...is this possible with ejabberd config?
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[08:17:40] <AC79> bluesky: why would you want to do this?
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[08:22:29] <bluesky> To separate internal and external domains/hosts with the different certificates.
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[08:45:47] <AC79> bluesky: maybe it does not answer your question but maybe you can use a second IP for the second domain and use Prerouting/postrouting?
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[09:03:34] <bluesky> AC79: thx.
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[10:27:28] <ij> bluesky: you can also just use DNS zones to make different domains available to the external and internal networks
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[11:48:13] <masoud> Licaon_Kter: thanks for your links. What would be the update scenario when I install ejabberd in this way?
[11:48:45] <masoud> Does the package have an auto-update mechanism in it?
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[11:52:50] <Holger> bluesky: You can multiplex different virtual hosts with separate certificates over a single port. Basically, ejabberd will get things right without you having to worry. *Except* if this is about using different certificates for a *single* domain depending on what port is accessed?
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[11:55:34] <Holger> masoud: Ubuntu's official distribution package?
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[12:15:33] <bluesky> Holger: thank you.
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[13:00:22] <masoud> Holger: Ubuntu's package of ejabberd will be updated only with important (security) bugfixes, as far as I know. My question was about deb files downloaded from process-one server, as explained in the first link Licaon_Kter sent above.
Anyway, I am looking for the easiest way to install and maintain (keep up-to-date) ejabberd. I want to use it as a small (~10 users) family chat server.
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[13:05:39] <Deeg05> > As a sidenote (I know it is a polarizing topic): I really wish ejabberd was also packages as a snap. I use the snappy version of Nextcloud for my server, and I cannot be theoretically any happier. It is as seemless as nothing I have ever seen.
I wouldn't recommend using snap though, i think docker is better
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[13:07:31] <Licaon_Kter> masoud: on site DEBs or build from source or switch de Debian :)
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[13:08:04] <Deeg05> > Holger: Ubuntu's package of ejabberd will be updated only with important (security) bugfixes, as far as I know. My question was about deb files downloaded from process-one server, as explained in the first link Licaon_Kter sent above.
> Anyway, I am looking for the easiest way to install and maintain (keep up-to-date) ejabberd. I want to use it as a small (~10 users) family chat server.
Process one's deb file was weird, I chose backports
[13:08:18] <Deeg05> !version deeg05.ga
[13:08:20] <Servant> Deeg05: deeg05.ga is running ejabberd version 21.01-2~bpo10+1 on unix/linux 5.8.0
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[13:11:16] <Licaon_Kter> masoud: on site DEBs or build from source or switch to Debian :)
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[14:08:35] <masoud> Licaon_Kter:
> on site DEBs or build from source or switch to Debian 🙂
why not the one that is missing (Ubuntu package)? Is there something wrong with it? I mean technically wrong, I'm not interested in politics 😉
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[14:09:26] <Deeg05> That one is easiest to install i bet
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[14:44:33] <thorsten> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
[14:44:35] <Servant> thorsten: emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 21.04.23 on unix/linux 5.8.0
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[14:46:04] <AC79> masoud: you said you want only minimal maintainance overhead. I guess the best would be to stay with the ubuntu package and retrieve security updates that way.
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[15:00:51] <Deeg05> Also I would recommend afraidorg for dns resolving purposes (im not affiliated with them)
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