Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, August 16, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[10:45:55] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> hey there
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[10:46:12] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> a friend of mine is having problems with the official Docker containel
[10:46:15] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> a friend of mine is having problems with the official Docker container
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[10:46:52] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> i told her to change a dynamic hostname to a fixed hostname and the container ceased starting
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[10:47:04] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> before this
[10:47:24] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> ejabberdctl did not work, saying the node was down, but that it was also up
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[10:48:38] <Licaon_Kter> We'd need logs and info.
[10:49:55] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> alright
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[10:50:51] <Holger> Hrm.
[10:50:54] <Holger> > ecs/bin/ejabberdctl:ERLANG_NODE=ejabberd@$(hostname -s)
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[10:51:36] <Holger> This wouldn't happen if we just did ejabberd@127.0.0.1 by default.  But I guess the idea is to be able to talk to ejabberd from outside Docker?
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[10:52:09] <Holger> Ellenor Bjornsd., I'm clueless, does one typically log into the Docker container to perform admin tasks?
[10:52:31] <Holger> (Or is that even impossible?  Totally clueless 🙂)
[10:52:36] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> to run ejabberdctl's? apparently yes holger. I don't like docker anyway
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[10:53:48] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > Holger wrote:
> This wouldn't happen if we just did ejabberd@127.0.0.1 by default.  But I guess the idea is to be able to talk to ejabberd from outside Docker?
No it's not. The changed thing was to be able to talk to it from inside the ctr.
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[10:55:04] <Holger> Then the easiest solution would be to set `ERLANG_NODE=ejabberd@127.0.0.1` in `conf/ejabberdctl.cfg`.  (And to remove the existing Mnesia files, which now hold the wrong node name.)
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[10:55:49] <Holger> badlop, prefiks, I think people ran into this problem before.  Any idea why the Docker container uses `ejabberd@$(hostname -s)` by default, rather than just `ejabberd@localhost`?
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[10:57:12] <Holger> @localhost obviously won't work for clusters, but we use @localhost by default in the upstream code and expect cluster admins to change the node name.  Makes sense to me to make the simple case more error-prone and expect cluster admins to know what they're doing.
[10:57:26] <Holger> @localhost obviously won't work for clusters, but we use @localhost by default in the upstream code and expect cluster admins to change the node name.  Makes sense to me to make the simple case less error-prone and expect cluster admins to know what they're doing.
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[11:06:09] <badlop> so you set the docker hostname to be dynamic, but keep the database content??
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[11:07:24] <Holger> That's the failure case I guess, yes.
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[11:08:34] <Holger> (No idea whether "dynamic host name" is some kind of Docker default or whatever?)
[11:09:36] <Holger> Either way I'm not sure why we use @localhost by default, but not for Docker.
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[11:21:43] <badlop> ok, let me check docker's default behaviour
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[11:23:34] <Holger> FWIW this is what my question was about:
https://github.com/processone/docker-ejabberd/blob/8e9f6655909f5d582f938cdd023d3329cb0b08ce/ecs/bin/ejabberdctl#L11
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[11:24:19] <Holger> As opposed to:
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/21.07/ejabberdctl.template#L10
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[12:49:39] <Robbilie> which makes a lot more sense in cluster scenarios (and it really doesnt matter for single node setups i guess)
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[12:50:39] <Robbilie> guess someone already wrote something like that ^^
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[15:06:44] <badlop> something like this https://github.com/processone/docker-ejabberd/pull/73
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[18:33:47] <Robbilie> I don't like it if it means I need to make changes to my kubernetes setup :/
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[18:39:28] <Holger> Robbilie, you're running a cluster?
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[19:58:51] <rozzin> So I'm looking at migrating my MAM store from mnesia to SQL, and looking at this: https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mysql/#switch-modules-to-use-mysql-instead-of-mnesia
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[19:59:14] <Holger> Robbilie: Well the solution would be to set `ERLANG_NODE=ejabberd@$(hostname -s)` in `conf/ejabberdctl.cfg`.
[19:59:18] <rozzin> > First parameter is the XMPP domain name you want to migrate (i.e localhost)
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[19:59:55] <rozzin> If I'm hosting several domains on a single server, do I need to set up a separate SQL database for each of them?
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[20:01:05] <rozzin> I believe they're all combined in one big mnesia DB Right now....
[20:01:17] <Holger> Depends, there's an 'old' and a 'new' SQL schema. For the latter you don't.
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[20:02:37] <Holger> (Those docs should be updated BTW, there's now a proper ejabberdctl command for the export.)
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[20:03:19] <rozzin> Mmm..., looks like the "default" schema as called out by the docs is the *old* schema, and the new one is "mysql.new.sql"?
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[20:04:05] <rozzin> Let me destroy and re-create my DB before I go any further then... 😁️
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[20:05:01] <Holger> Can't look right now but I guess there's no way to export directly to the 'new' schema (the 'old' is still the default, and the properly documented one).
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[20:05:33] <rozzin> Holger: I guess you mean the "export2sql" command?
[20:05:40] <Holger> But I think there's some magic somewhere to go from old to new, now.
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[20:05:57] <Holger> (Not very helpful I know.)
[20:06:00] <Holger> rozzin: Yeah.
[20:06:10] <rozzin> Which schema does export2sql use for its output?
[20:06:41] <Holger> Most probably only the old/default one as well.
[20:06:58] <rozzin> 😑️
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[20:07:43] <Holger> > But I think there's some magic somewhere to go from old to new, now.
I can look for that tomorrow if you can't find it.
[20:08:09] <Holger> … and nobody else in here knows it 🙂
[20:08:13] <rozzin> Holger: mysql.old-to-new.sql maybe?
[20:08:20] <Holger> Sounds cool.
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[20:10:20] <rozzin> Big sequence of "ALTER TABLE" commands. Mostly doing "ADD COLUMN `server_host`", looks like. Must be it 😁️
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[20:11:04] <Holger> Yes!
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[20:13:00] <rozzin> I see "old" and "new" (well..., "" and ".new") setup scripts for PostgreSQL and SQLite, but only for MySQL to I see a conversion script.
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[20:13:40] <rozzin> Awkward.
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[20:21:32] <Holger> There's some comments in pg.new.sql.
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[20:28:24] <rozzin> Mm, I see.
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[20:29:35] <rozzin> My choice right now is actually between SQLite and MariaDB, I think (since I already have MariaDB running due to something else requiring it);
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[20:32:14] <rozzin> Any opinions on MySQL vs. SQLite for ejabberd?
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[20:51:17] <Holger> I would go for MariaDB.
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[20:54:10] <Holger> Only reason I see for SQLite would be simpler setup, and maybe running in very constrained environments. But as soon as you're on some RPi or more, MariaDB should perform better (and rock solid, which isn't always true for SQLite).
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[21:30:29] <rozzin> I ask because MySQL has for the last decade or so seemed to sit in a sort of uncanny valley to me, between PostgreSQL which is feature-complete and robust and performant, and SQLite which is small "quick and easy"...; and I haven't really been tracking MariaDB at all since the fork—I have MariaDB because I'm on Debian, and Debian decided that MariaDB was an upgrade from MySQL (and TBH my experience with MySQL vs. everything else from ~2000—2011 left me feeling like "well..., it's unlikely that a prominent fork like that could be *worse*").
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[21:33:56] <rozzin> And actually I saw quite a lot of "oops my MySQL DB just up and died" in that span, while I just saw my first SQLite failure last month (due to a filesystem running out of space in the middle of an update, AFAICT).
[21:34:47] <rozzin> So, OK, I guess I'll use the MariaDB server.
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[21:38:59] <Holger> Why not Postgres?
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[21:40:09] <rozzin> Holger: would you really run *both* MariaDB *and* PostgreSQL on simultaneously on the same server?
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[21:40:52] <Holger> No, I just wasn't aware you're running MariaDB anyway.
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[21:40:56] <Holger> Maybe overlooked.
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[21:41:49] <rozzin> I'd rather be running PostgreSQL, but there's other software I'm running on that server that supports only MySQL/MariaDB at present.
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[21:42:29] <Holger> I'm not an SQL person so I don't feel qualified to compare engines.  From the little experience I do have and the things I picked up from others, my impression is that Postgres is cleaner in various ways, but MySQL/MariaDB _can_ perform better under certain circumstances.
[21:42:32] <rozzin> Maybe at some point I'll be able to migrate everything over to PostgreSQL. That will be a joyous day ☺
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[21:44:29] <Holger> Depends on access patterns and such. But I think InnoDB is more advanced than Postgres' storage backend. And if you have tons of RAM, InnoDB's caching might do more wonders than Postgres.
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[21:45:59] <Holger> I mean PostgreSQL is probably preferable in many cases, just not sure it's strictly better in all regards no matter what 🙂
[21:46:37] <rozzin> Conceivably I guess I might actually be able to have both: ~800 MB free, and of the other 1 GB that's in use only 250 MB of that is MySQL. Will have to see how much that grows after I move ejabberd into it from mnesia.
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[21:47:52] <Holger> I would quite strongly prefer running only one of them.
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[21:48:14] <Holger> ejabberd should cope with both equally well in practice.
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[21:49:35] <Holger> Better let InnoDB allocate your free RAM for caching and be happy about super-fast MAM responses 🙂
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[21:49:50] <rozzin> The only time I actually did run both of them on a single host was almost 20 years ago. It actually... worked better than I expected.
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[21:50:25] <rozzin> > Better let InnoDB allocate your free RAM for caching and be happy about super-fast MAM responses
Yeah, exactly.
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[22:05:06] <rozzin> So..., on that subject of "DBs and footprint-growth"..., I got here because I had the "MAM archives too large, won't store message" issue back in early July. I set up monthly cron job to prune back the message archives at that point. Doing what should have been a no-op prune to `only the last 20 years' (on an ejabberd setup that's only existed for 10) condensed archive_msg.DAT from 1+ GB down to a few tens of MB. I set the monthly job to prune back to "only the last 366 days" anyway, and after its first run on 1 August, archive_msg.DAT was 26 MB. On 11 Aug I was back to getting that error.
I ran the pruning-script today and archive_msg.DAT went down to ~30 MB. An hour later, it had grown by ~350 MB and was back up to ~400 MB. Running that pruning-script to `discard older than 366 days' then brought it back down to ~30 MB again.
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[22:07:54] <rozzin> Now..., I think the rapid growth was because my Biboumi install basically startd DOSing me when freenode started loudly rejecting its login attempts on the 11 August--and once I stopped Biboumi from connecting out to Freenode, the rapid growth stopped. So my question at this point is not about the rapid growth,
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[22:09:08] <rozzin> my question is: why does that "discard nothing" operation enc up shrinking the mnesia database so much?
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[22:09:16] <rozzin> my question is: why does that "discard nothing" operation end up shrinking the mnesia database so much?
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[22:09:59] <rozzin> Or, why would it have shrunk it so much in those circumstances?
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[22:10:23] <rozzin> (since doing it again _now_ doesn't seem to shrink it at all)
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