Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, August 23, 2021< ^ >
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[07:34:56] <Holger> rom1dep: Ah, yes, would indeed explain the `debug` fuckup.  Less sure about the CPU usage.  Let us know if you run into it again.
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[09:55:03] <Martin> Is is in de xmpp protocol allowed to send/recieve messages from service.xmpp.domain.com ? Or does it require something before the @?
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[09:56:33] Holger has a déjà vu.
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[09:57:42] <Licaon_Kter> Martin: you a friend of Ellenor Bjornsd. ?
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[09:58:09] <Holger> Martin: Ellenor Bjornsd. and me were discussing this in here on August 17, you might want to scroll up.
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[10:00:23] <Holger> Discussion started somewhere here: https://process-one.net/logs/ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/2021/08/17.html#09:54:43.659178
[10:00:33] <Martin> Nope I don’t know him, let me check :)
[10:00:54] <Holger> (The HTML logging should really ignore join/leaves :-/)
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[10:07:49] <Martin> Ok I see, I have build a service that responds on servicename.xmpp.domain.com but is is better then to let it send from/to user@servicename.xmpp.domain.com
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[10:41:15] <Holger> Yes, you can let it use a server JID as the `from` address just fine, assuming it's not supposed to accept responses.
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[12:17:49] <acidsys> hi, in the Module Opts documentation, in mod_disco -> Example it suggests the urls syntax is [mailto:abuse@example.com], however if the value is not a list it needs to be quoted, else ejabberd will complain about the colon. is it a bug in the documentation or a misinterpretation on my end?
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[12:28:36] <Holger> Yeah that's YAML syntax, `:` is special so usually[tm] needs quoting indeed.
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[12:42:58] <acidsys> ok thanks, should I report it somewhere?
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[12:45:17] <badlop> acidsys: thanks, i'm updating docs right now, and will check this too
[12:45:33] <acidsys> awesome :)
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[13:16:31] <Martin> @Holger Yes I’ve added a account to the JID now, but it just receives all messages from every user, but replies always from a single user :)
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[13:16:58] <Martin> Happy our software does not check where the message comes from :)
[13:17:33] <Martin> But smack does not accept sending a message to “service.xmpp.domain.com” also receiving does not work
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[13:18:44] <Holger> Hard to believe.  (flow?)
[13:19:23] <Martin> We get errors that local name is missing or something
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[13:21:13] <Holger> Maybe there are separate Smack calls for talking to server JIDs?
[13:21:24] <flow> It may depends on the API, but you certainly can send messages to any JID you want with smack
[13:21:48] <flow> canz I c codez?
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[13:22:05] <flow> stacktraces, if any, too
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[13:23:15] <Martin> Let me check with my coworker what he does exactly
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[14:07:22] <badlop> acidsys: done
[14:07:44] <badlop> and new page with summary of commands tags
https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-tags/
[14:07:57] <acidsys> nice!
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[14:13:47] <Holger> badlop: 👍
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[14:18:18] <Martin> @flow
val chat = ChatManager.getInstanceFor(connection).chatWith(JidCreate.entityBareFrom(SERVER_USER))
chat.send(message)
W/System.err: org.jxmpp.stringprep.XmppStringprepException: XmppStringprepException caused by 'domain': org.jxmpp.stringprep.XmppStringprepException: localpart can't be null
[14:18:33] <Martin> SERVER_USER is just service.xmpp.domain.com
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[14:20:00] <flow> Martin, ChatManager is a high level API (and if it's the old one then it's also not a very good API), you want
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[14:20:24] <flow> Message message = connection.getStanzaFactory().buildMessage().to(SERVER_USER).build();
[14:20:31] <flow> connection.sendStanza(message);
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[14:21:48] <flow> and, pro tip, don't use String as type for Jid. If SERVER_USER where of type DomainBareJid, then your would already know at compile time that this does not work
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[14:57:05] <Martin> @flow tnx, that works, now we dropped the ChatManager
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[15:43:48] <flow> Martin, glad it worked and always happy to help
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[16:09:07] <acidsys> Hi, I have LDAP authentication active and currently only a redirect set in mod_register - What would happen if I enable the full mod_register, someone signs up using it, and then tries to authenticate with the same username as one matching an LDAP uid ?
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[16:22:49] <Licaon_Kter> Not sure mod_register will write your LDAP.
ejabberd just reads it, afaik
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[16:26:13] <badlop> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/ldap/#supported-storages
Usually ejabberd treats LDAP as a read-only storage: it is possible to consult data, but not possible to create accounts or edit vCard that is stored in LDAP.
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[16:28:19] <Holger> ejabberd does support password change via LDAP, though.
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[16:39:46] <acidsys> Oh I know it doesn't support writing accounts, hence I wondered what the behaviour is - will it create a local account in the database instead?
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[16:40:42] <Licaon_Kter> Debian Stable brings OTP 23 update over 21
Sooo many TLS-related enhancements they advertise, will see soon enough :)
[16:41:06] <Holger> acidsys: If LDAP is your only auth backend, any registration attempt will fail.
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[16:42:02] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> > Holger wrote:
> Martin: Ellenor Bjornsd. and me were discussing this in here on August 17, you might want to scroll up.
;P
[16:42:21] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Except we don't use OTP's TLS library 😂
[16:42:23] <acidsys> Holger ah ok, but if I make it [ldap internal], it would send the xmpp registrations to internal?
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[16:42:48] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, dammit, and you didn't steal fastest-tls lib from Mongoose either :((
[16:42:59] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
Ah, dammit, and you didn't steal fastest-tls lib from Mongoose either :((
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[16:46:05] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: IIRC the story was that they still steal ours and submitted a fast_tls patch required for -SCRAM-PLUS-NEUSTRADAMUS.  They use that in their fastest-scram code and I was pondering with stealing *that*.  But in the meantime prefiks added -NEUSTRADAMUS support.
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[16:46:21] <Holger> The only patch they ever contributed back, AFAIK ;-)
[16:46:27] <Licaon_Kter> Oh
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[16:49:34] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/fast_tls/pull/45
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[16:53:02] <badlop> if I make it [ldap, internal], it would send the xmpp registrations to internal? <-- i've checked this: yes, ldap rejects registration, and then internal accepts registration
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[16:54:49] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> https://github.com/processone/fast_tls/pull/45
👍
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[16:58:37] <acidsys> badlop - Ok thank you for confirming, may I know if there's some way to prevent someone accidentally registering a name that's already available in LDAP? Because I fear someone would register a name, and then fail to authenticate with it as the registration goes to internal, whilst the login attempt goes to LDAP.
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[16:59:29] <acidsys> I assume the only way it to put internal first, but maybe there's another option
[16:59:44] <prefiks> i think ldap implements hook that should prevent that
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[17:01:06] <prefiks> if you have ldap before other method then i think register will first check if user exist in ldap, and reject registration if ldap have that user
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[17:01:49] <Holger> Yes if I just read the code correctly, actually all auth backends will be checked for user existence before accepting the registration.  Regardless of config ordering.
[17:02:07] <Holger> But won't hurt to double-check by testing this yourself :-)
[17:02:08] <prefiks> ah, could be
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[17:02:38] <Holger> prefiks: mod_register calls ejabberd_auth:user_exists/2 which iterates all backends.
[17:02:39] <acidsys> ah that's good to know! sure will check, just wanted to confirm how it's "supposed" to operate ;)
[17:02:43] <acidsys> thanks a lot!
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[17:08:26] <badlop> checked: if the account already exists (in ldap), then registration is completely disallowed, otherwise accepted (by internal):
❯ ejabberdctl register test6000 ldap.localhost asd      
Error: conflict: User test6000@ldap.localhost already registered
❯ ejabberdctl register asdasd ldap.localhost asd
User asdasd@ldap.localhost successfully registered
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[17:44:50] <acidsys> oh nice, that's prefect
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[17:46:50] <acidsys> then I just need to think of something that also prevents doubles from the ldap end. the API should do. :)
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[17:52:06] <Holger> Dunno about your use case, separate domains for LDAP vs. XMPP users won't do the trick?
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[18:14:58] <acidsys> Hm I tried to keep them the same to make it more uniform for the user, we use LDAP generally but upon wanting to add us to the Gajim server list they complained that only having the redirect registration would harm the authentication flow for regular users, so I just try to add a simple way for regular XMPP users to sign up without harming the other backend
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[19:07:16] <moparisthebest> Ellenor Bjornsd., didn't you recently have problems running ejabberd on OpenBSD or am I getting things confused ? :)
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[19:12:40] <Licaon_Kter> moparisthebest, Free not Open
[19:13:00] <moparisthebest> darn, thanks!
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[19:13:22] <Licaon_Kter> moparisthebest: why?
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[19:13:55] <moparisthebest> someone in prosody muc having similar (in that they seem to be unsolvable) problems running prosody on OpenBSD
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[19:39:50] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> moparisthebest: No, I'm on FreeBSD.
[19:40:02] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> (The problem was ult. solved)
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[19:40:19] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> I'm banned off the prosody MUC - what's up?
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[20:22:50] <moparisthebest> Ellenor Bjornsd., what did the problem end up being?
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[20:23:00] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> moparisthebest: No clue
[20:23:12] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> moparisthebest: Mine, or obsd'er?
[20:23:14] <moparisthebest> prosody user is having strange disconnects with various specific servers, maybe TLS bug, not sure
[20:23:19] <moparisthebest> yours
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[20:23:38] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> Mine was related to mlock() limits, I believe.
[20:24:09] <Ellenor Bjornsd.> I increased(?) them to great positive consequence
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