Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, August 26, 2021< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[04:30:43] <carlo> Hi, I noticed that my recipient using Siskin with an account on my ejabberd server won't ring when I try to make A/V call unless they have the app open.  Push notifications for text messages work just fine.  However, the recipient using Siskin with an account on sure.im (Tigase server) will always ring even with the app "closed".  Is there an ejabberd module/setting that I'm missing to make this work?
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[04:44:36] <Licaon_Kter> carlo: answer is in your post "push notif for text messages work"
Calls? Group messages? Not covered by established standards yet™, wip
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[04:49:31] <carlo> Ok, so I take it Tigase server has some kind custom solution on the situation.
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[04:54:34] <Licaon_Kter> Proprietary non-FOSS thing...yes
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[10:45:59] <Holger> To be fair their _code_ is FOSS :-)  But the spec is not standardized indeed (which makes it meh to implement in ejabberd).
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[10:50:30] <Licaon_Kter> Not what MattJ said at one point, for Snikket iOS afaik, maybe it's now FOSS?!
Link to source code?
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[10:51:08] <Holger> Huh.
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[10:53:14] <Holger> Yeah maybe you're right.  https://tigase.net/pricing-xmpp says the push component is $$$.
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[10:54:20] <Holger> Whatever, they do publish their _specs_ and the only real problem with implementing them in ejabberd is that they're not standard XEPs.
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[10:59:15] <Licaon_Kter> Any movement in this direction, eg. xsf@ talks and whatnot?
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[11:00:23] <Holger> Not that I'm aware of.  Last I heard was this: <https://github.com/tigase/tigase-xeps/issues/4>
[11:00:48] <Holger> I kind of regret having made things more complicated there.
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[11:09:06] <Holger> Added a comment where I try to back-pedal my concern in favor of making progress.
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[11:23:20] <Licaon_Kter> Yeah, we can blame you for another year or so :)
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[11:27:53] <Holger> A single year is like *nothing* in XMPP time span terms!
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[15:48:36] <Servant> Holger: messaging.one is running ejabberd version 21.07.39-messaging.one on unix/linux 4.19.0
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[15:49:30] <ben> any idea when bullseye will get 21.07?
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[15:49:35] <ben> or in -backports
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[15:52:49] <Holger> Bullseye won't, -backports might at some point.  Whenever the maintainer or someone else finds time + motivation I guess :-P
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[16:00:58] <ben> yeah i figured bullseye wouldn't
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[16:01:11] <ben> i was running from backports on buster so i'd like to get back up-to-date there :)
[16:01:25] <ben> is that something i'd be able to help with?
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[16:02:06] <Holger> I guess right around Debian free/release time things are always a bit on hold.
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[16:02:30] <Holger> Yes if you're interested in Debian packaging, I'm sure debalance would be very happy about helping hands.
[16:03:09] <ben> i wouldn't mind taking a look
[16:03:24] <ben> yeah i figured it was on hold for a while due to bullseye freeze
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[16:06:40] <Holger> We had a room back when two or three people were helping with packaging, but these days it's basically a one man show.  debalance is joined to this room sometimes.
[16:06:44] <Holger> https://debalance.de
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[16:10:15] <ben> oh ok cool!
[16:10:25] <ben> i'm not super clear on what it would take to update it
[16:10:34] <ben> and how to get the packages published in backports
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[16:12:38] <Holger> ben: Here's the Git repo: https://salsa.debian.org/ejabberd-packaging-team/ejabberd
[16:12:50] <Holger> ben: See the history for examples of previous updates: https://salsa.debian.org/ejabberd-packaging-team/ejabberd/-/commits/master/
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[16:14:36] <Holger> ben: I think the first step would be building a version against `testing` (`bookworm`), having debalance upload that, and then adjust it for `bullseye-backports`.
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[16:14:53] <ben> ok!
[16:14:56] <ben> i'll have a look
[16:15:21] <Holger> ben: I would _assume_ debalance is fine with taking care of the uploading foo and would already be very happy about someone providing commits against that repo, and testing them locally.
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[16:16:48] <Wojtek> > Yeah maybe you're right.  https://tigase.net/pricing-xmpp says the push component is $$$.
Just to clarify: push component (the thing that manages device registration and actuall connectivity to APNS/FCP) is indeed closed source but the plugin, which covers the processing logic (i.e. what the linked xep covers more or less) is FOSS (https://github.com/tigase/tigase-server/tree/master/src/main/java/tigase/xmpp/impl/push)
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[16:17:15] <Holger> Ah, thanks.
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[19:14:18] <debalance> what Holger said ;) all relevant packages are listed on https://tracker.debian.org/teams/ejabberd-packaging-team/ - currently 24 of them are in need of an update, especially the 6 packages that fail to build with with autoconf 2.70
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[19:17:58] <debalance> what Holger said ;) all relevant packages are listed on https://tracker.debian.org/teams/ejabberd-packaging-team/ - currently 24 of them are in need of an update, especially the 8 packages that fail to build with with autoconf 2.70
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[20:57:59] <ben> debalance: I'll have a look tonight to see if I can help out - do I need to make an account on salsa?
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[21:00:19] <debalance> not yet, you can access everything publicly
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[21:00:53] <debalance> once you want to push / create merge requests you need an account
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[21:09:39] <debalance> depending on your knowledge about Debian packaging in general you might want to start with https://people.debian.org/~debalance/packaging-with-git
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[21:30:09] <ben> i've done a bit, not super familiar
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[21:30:10] <ben> thanks for the guide!
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[22:25:15] <ben> so far i've cloned the repos from salsa with gbp and import-orig --uscan for all of the ones with new upstream versions
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