Process-one
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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, September 18, 2021< ^ >
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[00:14:24] <egnun> Ok, I got mod_announce to work.
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[00:15:18] <egnun> As one can read in the Prosody documentation it is important to notice, that only admins are allowed to send announcements.
https://prosody.im/doc/modules/mod_announce
[00:16:48] <egnun> So, in the access rules one has to add the user, that should be able to send announcements.
access_rules:
  […]
  announce:
    allow: admin
    allow:
     - user:
       - myuser@example.org
  […]
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[00:18:32] <egnun> It is also important to notice, that sending announcements only works with certain clients.
Currently Gajim seems to be the only one. (I only tested Dino, Gajim and Conversations)
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[05:47:10] <Holger> psjbeisler: How does Prosody's proxy module solve it then?
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[05:50:02] <Holger> egnun: There's two ways for sending them, ad-hoc command vs. sending a normal message to a special JID. The latter should work with all clients.
[05:50:37] <Holger> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-announce
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[07:26:05] <psjbeisler> > Holger‎ I am strickly speaking from an onboarding perspective. I was under the impression the hostname was already used since its already (kinda ) set elsewhaer. if its not going to be a packaged default maybe the docs could just be a lil more clear or include it as a commented out option in the config.
just my 2cents
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[10:35:46] <Holger> > I am strictly speaking from an onboarding perspective.
Me too 🙂
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[10:37:30] <Holger> `#hostname: "@HOST@"`might be an idea, yes. Or even using that as default. I'm just unsure (and hence interested what other servers do).
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[16:04:38] <gooya> > Ouchh.. I don't know if it has anything to do with the latest ejabberd release but I think it's just my server? As it only started to happen a few weeks ago..
An update on my current situation.. The notifications that I was talking about also seemed to add the messages again on my client. I don't know how to explain it but I think my screenshot says it all..
[16:04:46] <gooya> https://xcherry.tech:5443/upload/32f7179d9a90142e8841e4463a7ab0578d606e92/OTzfHGfagln3cQUW7jcXMgZpUUcV34NDQUlumU19/rN0u61Y9QaSZqvLLBy2piw.jpg
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[16:05:50] <gooya> I find this situation to be funny and mildly frustrating at the same time haha
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[16:13:26] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: which ejabberd version? Try a restart?
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[16:14:45] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: Restarted multiple times already. I'm on the latest version, 21.07
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[16:15:26] <Licaon_Kter> Canversations 2.9.13 or 2.10.0?
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[16:15:32] <Licaon_Kter> Conversations 2.9.13 or 2.10.0?
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[16:19:05] <gooya> > Conversations 2.9.13 or 2.10.0?
2.9.13 Fdroid version. Currently the latest available release on f-droid
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[16:20:41] <gooya> > Conversations 2.9.13 or 2.10.0?
2.9.13 | f-droid version. Currently the latest available release on f-droid.
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[16:39:53] <Milles> gooya: 2.10.0 is available in F-Droid, just update your repos.
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[17:07:43] <Thomas Lewis> > `#hostname: "@HOST@"`might be an idea, yes. Or even using that as default. I'm just unsure (and hence interested what other servers do).
Isn’t `hostname: @host@` mostly deprecated in favor of `hosts: []` ?
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[17:17:26] <Holger> Thomas Lewis: Totally unrelated options.
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[17:18:54] <Holger> `hostname:` is an option specific to `mod_proxy65`, it's the host name or IP address announced to clients for connecting to the SOCKS proxy.
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[17:20:19] <gooya> > gooya: 2.10.0 is available in F-Droid, just update your repos.
Milles: Just updated conversation. But I don't think the bug is related to conversation. This never happend, it only began happening randomly a few weeks ago. I haven't updated or changed anything to the Host in more then a month. So, I don't even know what to look for.
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[17:24:13] <Holger> So both outgoing messages sent from you to (all?) your contacts and incoming messages received from (all?) contacts are duplicated?  Are the contacts on your server as well?
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[17:24:32] <gooya> This is my config section of mod_mam as my bug might have something to do with the Message Archive Management?
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[17:24:37] <gooya> https://xcherry.tech:5443/upload/32f7179d9a90142e8841e4463a7ab0578d606e92/JoQe7tVyzOfjgIYiwoufCQWQPdNRgy8MPPSfIM7c/0bfab27c-8d4f-4b33-8c94-3b4197b54c65.png
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[17:26:47] <gooya> > Holger‎: So both outgoing messages sent from you to (all?) your contacts and incoming messages received from (all?) contacts are duplicated?  Are the contacts on your server as well?  
Everytime when I seem to force stop conversations for example and start it again I seem to be getting notifications of random messages from weeks ago.
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[17:27:14] <gooya> Which contacts on my server are you talking about?
[17:27:17] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: i don't have the request option
[17:27:27] <Holger> It's not a config issue.
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[17:27:56] <Holger> gooya: Doesn't quite answer my questions to be honest.
[17:29:52] <gooya> I only have a few contacts who I chat with via XMPP those JID's are registered on my ejabberd server and they also have the same problem seeing random notifications of old messages and when opening the chat they also see duplicated messages both incoming and outgoing.
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[17:30:15] <gooya> Hope this answer is more relevant to your question?
[17:30:21] <Holger> gooya: If it happens "every time" it sounds like it's well reproducible? In that case, you could `ejabberdctl set-loglevel debug`, then reproduce it, then check your ejabberd log for one of those messages.
[17:30:31] <Thomas Lewis> Holger: Ah, okay. I thought most modules were moving to the newer `hosts: []` option.
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[17:31:33] <Holger> Thomas Lewis: No apart from this question being unrelated to the proxy issue, there's no point in moving from host to hosts. The former isn't deprecated or anything.
[17:31:34] <gooya> > gooya: If it happens "every time" it sounds like it's well reproducible? In that case, you could `ejabberdctl set-loglevel debug`, then reproduce it, then check your ejabberd log for one of those messages.
Thanks I will try immediately
[17:31:51] <Holger> You need multiple hosts only in corner cases.
[17:32:08] <Holger> Basically was implemented for Movim 🙂
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[17:33:35] <Holger> gooya: The system time on your server is fine?
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[17:36:15] <gooya> Yes, system time is fine
[17:36:15] <gooya> Yes, system time is fine
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[17:36:24] <gooya> Y
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[17:56:55] <Holger> gooya, could you double check it's fine from ejabberd's point of view, too, in an `ejabberdctl debug` shell?
[17:57:21] <Holger> Enter this call (including the trailing `.`):
```
calendar:system_time_to_local_time(erlang:system_time(), native).
```
[17:57:57] <Holger> Exit the shell by pressing `Ctrl+G` and then `q`.
[17:58:46] <Licaon_Kter> CTRL+C then `a` dammit :))
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[17:59:14] <Holger> 🙂
[17:59:36] <Holger> Pressing `Ctrl+C` twice will also work in _most_ environments.
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[18:00:31] <Licaon_Kter> That's experience right there....
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[18:04:46] <gooya> > gooya, could you double check it's fine from ejabberd's point of view, too, in an `ejabberdctl debug` shell?
Debug shell shows correct time stamps. I reinstalled conversations and I don't seem to be getting all the old message notifications but I still get one specific private message from a specific muc. The other messages that  I kept receiving seem to be gone.
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[18:08:24] <Licaon_Kter> That MUC is on your server?
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[18:11:24] <gooya> No, it's a dismail.de muc
[18:11:31] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, PMs are stored in your local user MAM archive either way.  (Just in case this is MAM foo.)
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[18:12:32] <Licaon_Kter> Interesting
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[18:13:07] <gooya> And I've checked the debug logs and I couldn't find anything related as well
[18:13:09] <Licaon_Kter> So still a MAM issue? Maybe gooya can SELECT its DB and find it?
[18:13:21] <Holger> I have no idea 🙂
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[18:13:59] <Holger> My crystal ball would've assumed a local client issue, but then gooya said other users are affected as well.
[18:14:05] <Licaon_Kter> Eg. Extracting the stanza of one such phantom message might reveal the Why?
[18:14:22] <Holger> Yeah.
[18:15:20] <Holger> Checking whether it's duplicated in MAM, if it isn't checking whether the MAM row looks fine (timestamp and so on), if it does double check whether it's re-queried by the client for some reason.
[18:15:46] <Holger> (But now my son needs help with home-work.)
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[18:18:10] <gooya> How can you ditch everything from the mam archive except for let's say the last 60 days?
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[18:25:16] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: yes
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[18:26:26] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: you have 3 commands to clean up in ejabberdctl:
`ejabberdctl --no-timeout delete_old_mam_messages all XX`
then
`ejabberdctl delete_old_messages XX`
(Where XX is days)
then
`ejabberdctl delete_expired_messages`
+whatever vacuum/cleanup of sql
[18:26:36] <Licaon_Kter> Read docs.ejabberd.im for more info
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[19:20:40] <gooya> XX stands for days to keep in mam archive?
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[19:29:26] <Licaon_Kter> Yes
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[19:34:31] <gooya> Okay, thank you! I will try it and see if it makes any difference.
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[23:07:06] <Thomas Lewis> Since auth_method is a list, I assume you can use both internal and an external script (i.e. having XMPP-only users and allowing Pleroma users to sign in with their Pleroma account)…
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[23:20:39] <Kris> yes that should work
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